101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible

Terry1 said:
Then why can't we say the same thing about any Bible being that they're all subject to mankind's interpretation?
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Because words have meaning. If you really think there is no way to find the truth, then how can historians do it with other old documents that give accounts of, say, the fall of Rome?
 
PaulConventionWV said:
You still have yet to provide an example of one of these supposed contradictions with an explanation of why it's a contradiction. As I've said before, you can't just list a bunch of things that appear to say different things without referring to the context. So go ahead, put your best foot forward.



He doesn't. If you want to argue with the people that ask for it, then I'm with you.
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I never agreed with any of your crap requests, and I won't because putting it very kindly they're just silly.

Read the Google links or not, I really don't give a crap.
 
Ronin Truth said:
I never agreed with any of your crap requests, and I won't because putting it very kindly they're just silly.

Read the Google links or not, I really don't give a crap.
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It's silly to ask for evidence when you claim there are contradictions?

OK, then suit yourself. Your claims are invalid until you do.

If I gave you a Google search result of all the pages that answer these supposed contradictions, would you read it?
 
“One must not think slightingly of the paradoxical…for the paradox is the source of the thinker’s passion, and the thinker without a paradox is like a lover without feeling: a paltry mediocrity.”

― Søren Kierkegaard
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If the bible didn't contradict itself, I would question whether there was anything in there worth believing.
 
So, we're in a thread where the OP states, in part...

God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
(a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
(b) Three (I Chronicles 21:12)
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...and you beg for one verse you can call in a priest and perform an Exegism on, and I say three does not equal seven, and you accuse me of fallacies, quote previous statements completely out of context, do everything you can to change the subject, then post a lengthy treatise on how you're trying to figure out what people are saying to you but everyone on earth is obtuse but you.

There's not a man, woman or child over five on earth stupid enough to buy all that.
 
PaulConventionWV said:
Because words have meaning. If you really think there is no way to find the truth, then how can historians do it with other old documents that give accounts of, say, the fall of Rome?
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Raw knowledge absent the Spirit of the Lord won't get anyone closer to the spiritual revelation of the word of God. Gnostics tried that too. God knows who's seeking with a true sincere heart--only He has the spiritual keys and knows who He wants to give them to open up and unlock the mysteries of His word. God told us that He did this for a good reason.

Whether or not a translation is in Greek, Aramaic or Hebrew--it's all subject to mankind's flawed corrupt carnal nature of interpretations. The only way to understand the word of God no matter what Bible one is using is to seek it in the Spirit of the Lord. That's the only way the meanings come to light of understanding.
 
Terry1 said:
Raw knowledge absent the Spirit of the Lord won't get anyone closer to the spiritual revelation of the word of God. Gnostics tried that too. God knows who's seeking with a true sincere heart--only He has the spiritual keys and knows who He wants to give them to open up and unlock the mysteries of His word. God told us that He did this for a good reason.

Whether or not a translation is in Greek, Aramaic or Hebrew--it's all subject to mankind's flawed corrupt carnal nature of interpretations. The only way to understand the word of God no matter what Bible one is using is to seek it in the Spirit of the Lord. That's the only way the meanings come to light of understanding.
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Hence, the apparent contradictions to the uninitiated.

Of course, pointing out contradictions doesn't mean you're uninitiated. It just means you're pointing them out.

Contradictions scare away the secular folks and the false christians deny them.
 
Terry1 said:
Raw knowledge absent the Spirit of the Lord won't get anyone closer to the spiritual revelation of the word of God. Gnostics tried that too. God knows who's seeking with a true sincere heart--only He has the spiritual keys and knows who He wants to give them to open up and unlock the mysteries of His word. God told us that He did this for a good reason.

Whether or not a translation is in Greek, Aramaic or Hebrew--it's all subject to mankind's flawed corrupt carnal nature of interpretations. The only way to understand the word of God no matter what Bible one is using is to seek it in the Spirit of the Lord. That's the only way the meanings come to light of understanding.
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Ok, but that doesn't mean that God wasn't competent enough to say what He meant.
 
acptulsa said:
So, we're in a thread where the OP states, in part...



...and you beg for one verse you can call in a priest and perform an Exegism on, and I say three does not equal seven, and you accuse me of fallacies, quote previous statements completely out of context, do everything you can to change the subject, then post a lengthy treatise on how you're trying to figure out what people are saying to you but everyone on earth is obtuse but you.

There's not a man, woman or child over five on earth stupid enough to buy all that.
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I've stated repeatedly that I would give a response to one (1) passage if you can just choose one that you think is your best example. Is that the one you want to go with? I still think you should explain why you think it's a contradiction even in the correct context, but I'll let that slide if you really want to understand what you're doing wrong.

I'm here to help people who are sincere, but I'll indulge your request nonetheless so that people can see that your interpretation of these supposed contradictions aren't necessarily what you think they are.
 
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One solution to the "Three years of famine or seven" dilemma:

Clearly, Israel had already experienced three years of famine before David numbered the people of Israel and Judah—for reasons unrelated to the situation in question. 2 Samuel 24:1–7 record the initiation of the census, but we find in verse 8 that “when they had gone through all the land, they came to Jerusalem at the end of nine months and twenty days.”

So according to the text, numbering the people was nearly a year-long process, and there is no clear indication that God had suspended the initial three-year famine prior to the events in chapter 24. Now if God had combined three additional years of famine (1 Chronicles 21:12) with the three years of initial famine, and a possible intervening year while the census was conducted, the resulting overall famine would have totaled about seven years (2 Samuel 24:13).

CONCLUSION

The important thing to realize is that regardless of which solution we choose, the result is the same. The accusation of contradiction evaporates—all without declaring the text in error. In conclusion, these Scriptures not only are compatible, but also work together to provide additional details on this particular event.
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https://answersingenesis.org/contradictions-in-the-bible/a-famine-of-three-or-seven-years/

So now that I have demonstrated that your method for finding contradictions in the Bible is in error, it logically follows that you don't know if ANY of the supposed contradictions cited in the OP are actually contradictions.
 
wizardwatson said:
Hence, the apparent contradictions to the uninitiated.

Of course, pointing out contradictions doesn't mean you're uninitiated. It just means you're pointing them out.

Contradictions scare away the secular folks and the false christians deny them.
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If I can explain how they don't necessarily contradict each other, then does that make me a "false Christian"?
 
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PaulConventionWV said:
One solution to the "Three years of famine or seven" dilemma:

Now if God had combined three additional years of famine (1 Chronicles 21:12) with the three years of initial famine, and a possible intervening year while the census was conducted, the resulting overall famine would have totaled about seven years (2 Samuel 24:13).
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https://answersingenesis.org/contradictions-in-the-bible/a-famine-of-three-or-seven-years/

So now that I have demonstrated that your method for finding contradictions in the Bible is in error, it logically follows that you don't know if ANY of the supposed contradictions cited in the OP are actually contradictions.
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All I see is why you were casting aspersions, making false accusations, and trying desperately to change the subject.
 
acptulsa said:
All I see is why you were casting aspersions, making false accusations, and trying desperately to change the subject.
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So you're saying you don't accept that explanation? Care to explain why?

All I had to do for Scriptural inerrancy to remain intact was show that they don't necessarily contradict each other, and I showed that. If you want to believe that they do, then you're free to do that, but I've already shown that it doesn't have to be interpreted as a contradiction. If you want to argue that it's still a contradiction, then you have to prove it.
 
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PaulConventionWV said:
It's silly to ask for evidence when you claim there are contradictions?

OK, then suit yourself. Your claims are invalid until you do.

If I gave you a Google search result of all the pages that answer these supposed contradictions, would you read it?
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Perhaps.

Put up or shut up.
 
PaulConventionWV said:
So you're saying you don't accept that explanation? Care to explain why?
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Why do you insist on being spoon fed every obvious thing? Is it that you're in such a hurry to post that you can't be bothered to read or understand?

You offer this as proof there's no contradiction and I bolded three words that emphasize this is proof of nothing. Reasonable doubt? Maybe. Proof? Hardly.

All you've proven is your double standard leans rather remarkably in your favor.
 
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