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[catdd]

There are about 10% of you people that I consider true revolutionaries, the rest are no better than your average libtard or rino. The 10% know who they are, I think, and I'm not sure how they manage to hang around with the rest here. I hate the other 90% of you so I don't much care if you like me or not; the rest matter. I was a good member here...I donated, I fought hard for the cause, and I was always there when you needed a hand. I think the anarchists never belonged, I think they were using us as a platform to reach their own destination. and I've despised the entire lot of them since '07. The Libertarian Party has no claim to the real revolution as I see it, and the division between them concerning open borders was a major concern of mine. I believe the Constitution party best represents the future even though the anti abortion folks couldn't disagree more. Where does it go from here? Is there any one party that best represents the future? NO, I doubt if any party will best represent the revolution. I don't know where we go from here, but it seems that we should prepare ourselves for the chaos which is sure to come in the near future. Adios

 

[nobody's_hero]

I felt the same way about some of the an-caps around here. Annoying little buggers.

But then I took a lot of time to reflect on what T. Jefferson said, "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences of too much liberty, than to those attending too small a degree of it."

So basically, you get to a point, after you've watched citizens get kicked in the gut by the government that allegedly 'serves' them, where you say to yourself, 'Fuck it. It's not worth arguing over. Maybe there is no 'exact' amount of freedom or control. Only two roads splitting off in different directions, one leading to liberty, the other to tyranny, and we should pick which one suits us and keep walking until our legs give out.'

Think of it this way, though. An army of 10,000,000 anarchists couldn't reverse the tide, at this point. It might take 20,000,000 just to stop government from growing any more. And thats if you could somehow get anarchists to organize, and if you thought organizing libertarians is like herding cats, organizing anarchists would be like herding the cat fleas, lol.

 

[ronpaulfollower999]

Good luck in the Constitution Party. You'll need it.

 

[TheGrinch]

Great, jsut what we needed, more divisiveness....

I've disagreed plenty with the an-caps, but we all agree on way too many important issues to try to eat our own like this.

 

[KCIndy]

There are about 10% of you people that I consider true revolutionaries, the rest are no better than your average libtard or rino. The 10% know who they are, I think, and I'm not sure how they manage to hang around with the rest here. I hate the other 90% of you....

Whoa, whoa, slow down, not so fast!

I'm trying to take notes on this.



It's for my essay on "How to Win Friends and Influence People."

 

[sparebulb]

I don't know where I fit in all of this. Therefore, I am not offended with the labels and generalizations.

 

[truthspeaker]

I don't know about the rest of the nation, but Texas has been working hard!

In Houston alone, for example, there was a major meeting of the Paul, Tea Party and republicans that felt disenfranchized by the joke of a convention at the RNC. In Texas the CP doesn't exist. I'm opting to influence the party that does exist in my state.

People are still fighting for freedom. My best recommendation is to keep an eye on those pieces of legislation that can harm our liberties. That is where United We Stand, Divided we fall!

 

[TomtheTinker]

I felt the same way about some of the an-caps around here. Annoying little buggers.

But then I took a lot of time to reflect on what T. Jefferson said, "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences of too much liberty, than to those attending too small a degree of it."

So basically, you get to a point, after you've watched citizens get kicked in the gut by the government that allegedly 'serves' them, where you say to yourself, 'Fuck it. It's not worth arguing over. Maybe there is no 'exact' amount of freedom or control. Only two roads splitting off in different directions, one leading to liberty, the other to tyranny, and we should pick which one suits us and keep walking until our legs give out.'

Think of it this way, though. An army of 10,000,000 anarchists couldn't reverse the tide, at this point. It might take 20,000,000 just to stop government from growing any more. And thats if you could somehow get anarchists to organize, and if you thought organizing libertarians is like herding cats, organizing anarchists would be like herding the cat fleas, lol.

Rep

 

[erowe1]

There are about 10% of you people that I consider true revolutionaries, the rest are no better than your average libtard or rino. The 10% know who they are, I think, and I'm not sure how they manage to hang around with the rest here. I hate the other 90% of you so I don't much care if you like me or not; the rest matter. I was a good member here...I donated, I fought hard for the cause, and I was always there when you needed a hand. I think the anarchists never belonged, I think they were using us as a platform to reach their own destination. and I've despised the entire lot of them since '07. The Libertarian Party has no claim to the real revolution as I see it, and the division between them concerning open borders was a major concern of mine. I believe the Constitution party best represents the future even though the anti abortion folks couldn't disagree more. Where does it go from here? Is there any one party that best represents the future? NO, I doubt if any party will best represent the revolution. I don't know where we go from here, but it seems that we should prepare ourselves for the chaos which is sure to come in the near future. Adios

Thanks for everything you're doing, Catdd. We'll never be truly free until more people show the courage it takes to be true revolutionaries by anonymously insulting others on the internet.

 

[Athan]

There are about a lot of you people that I consider true revolutionaries.

Fixed to prevent divisivness.

 

[dbill27]

I represent the 90% and we're tired of the 10% controlling these forums or something like that, where's michael moore when you need him?

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

And thats if you could somehow get anarchists to organize, and if you thought organizing libertarians is like herding cats, organizing anarchists would be like herding the cat fleas, lol.

LOL! - I never worried too much about the fleas.

t4rp - founder of operationcatherder

-t

 

[WilliamShrugged]

There are about 10% of you people that I consider true revolutionaries, the rest are no better than your average libtard or rino. The 10% know who they are, I think, and I'm not sure how they manage to hang around with the rest here. I hate the other 90% of you so I don't much care if you like me or not; the rest matter. I was a good member here...I donated, I fought hard for the cause, and I was always there when you needed a hand. I think the anarchists never belonged, I think they were using us as a platform to reach their own destination. and I've despised the entire lot of them since '07. The Libertarian Party has no claim to the real revolution as I see it, and the division between them concerning open borders was a major concern of mine. I believe the Constitution party best represents the future even though the anti abortion folks couldn't disagree more. Where does it go from here? Is there any one party that best represents the future? NO, I doubt if any party will best represent the revolution. I don't know where we go from here, but it seems that we should prepare ourselves for the chaos which is sure to come in the near future. Adios

I am a an-cap that calls himself libertarian. Yet, i don't attack anyone for supporting the system of government. I understand that avoiding things like voting, campaigns, donations, etc do very little in advancing liberty. I will likely stay registered republican due to how the two parties work. I think you are wrong that the an-caps don't belong. You, just like myself, agree with less gov and more freedom. We also are likely influenced by Ron Paul.

 

[TheGrinch]

I am a an-cap that calls himself libertarian. Yet, i don't attack anyone for supporting the system of government. I understand that avoiding things like voting, campaigns, donations, etc do very little in advancing liberty. I will likely stay registered republican due to how the two parties work. I think you are wrong that the an-caps don't belong. You, just like myself, agree with less gov and more freedom. We also are likely influenced by Ron Paul.

+1

I get so tired of the people who refuse to recognize that we're all fighting for the same things. Like Dr. Paul said, liberty is popular.

A better way to look at 10% is what the Minnesota chairman said at the Paul event in Tampa:

When you have less than 10% of a population who share ideas, the idea will grow slowly, but once you pass that threshold and have 10% who are unshakable in their beliefs, then the idea will grow much mroe quickly and eventually be adopted by the entire population. This is backed up through science.

Do not underestimate the power of an irate minority, especially as it's increasingly evident that we're right.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Ron Paul is an-cap. I recommend reading all the books on the Recommended Reading List at the end of The Revolution: A Manifesto. Then, read all those he recommends at the end of Liberty Defined. Then, you too will be an an-cap and your problem will be solved! The truth will set you free. Dr. Paul is trying to gently lead you along the path to the truth. Look at how the reading lists at the back of his books become gradually more and more an-cap with each book. Good luck and Happy Reading!

Some of the recommended reading from Liberty Defined:

Mises and Austrian Economics: A Personal View by Ron Paul

For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto by Murray N. Rothbard

The Left, The Right, and The State by Lew Rockwell (pdf here: http://mises.org/books/leftright.pdf )

Civil Disobedience (Resistance to Civil Government) by Henry David Thoreau

Democracy: The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe

Let's Abolish Government by Lysander Spooner

Education: Free and Compulsory by Murray N. Rothbard

Meltdown by Thomas E. Woods Jr.

What Has Government Done to Our Money? by Murray N. Rothbard

 

[Travlyr]

Ron Paul is an-cap. I recommend reading all the books on the Recommended Reading List at the end of The Revolution: A Manifesto. Then, read all those he recommends at the end of Liberty Defined. Then, you too will be an an-cap and your problem will be solved! The truth will set you free. Dr. Paul is trying to gently lead you along the path to the truth. Look at how the reading lists at the back of his books become gradually more and more an-cap with each book. Good luck and Happy Reading!

Some of the recommended reading from Liberty Defined:

Mises and Austrian Economics: A Personal View by Ron Paul

For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto by Murray N. Rothbard

The Left, The Right, and The State by Lew Rockwell (pdf here: http://mises.org/books/leftright.pdf )

Civil Disobedience (Resistance to Civil Government) by Henry David Thoreau

Democracy: The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe

Let's Abolish Government by Lysander Spooner

Education: Free and Compulsory by Murray N. Rothbard

Meltdown by Thomas E. Woods Jr.

What Has Government Done to Our Money? by Murray N. Rothbard

Why do you do that? What is your purpose in claiming Ron Paul is an an-cap when Ron Paul has not claimed that label in his entire 77 years of living? Just because you want him to be an an-cap? Shouldn't Ron Paul be allowed to place labels on himself? It is just like Hans-Hermann Hoppe claiming that Ludwig von Mises was an anarchist. According to Hoppe, Mises became an anarchist after he died. It is disingenuous.

Was the real Helmuth Hubener a Nazi? He wrote about the Nazis all the time... does that make him one? The difference between Helmuth Hubener and Ron Paul is tolerance. Ron Paul tolerates people who don't agree with him but that does not make him one of them. Helmuth lost his life at an early age because he didn't tolerate the Nazis. You should let Ron Paul label himself. After all Ron Paul does claim to be "The Champion of the Constitution." Are all an-caps "Champions of the Constitution?"

 

[ninepointfive]

Why do you do that? What is your purpose in claiming Ron Paul is an an-cap when Ron Paul has not claimed that label in his entire 77 years of living? Just because you want him to be an an-cap? Shouldn't Ron Paul be allowed to place labels on himself? It is just like Hans-Hermann Hoppe claiming that Ludwig von Mises was an anarchist. According to Hoppe, Mises became an anarchist after he died. It is disingenuous.

Was the real Helmuth Hubener a Nazi? He wrote about the Nazis all the time... does that make him one? The difference between Helmuth Hubener and Ron Paul is tolerance. Ron Paul tolerates people who don't agree with him but that does not make him one of them. Helmuth lost his life at an early age because he didn't tolerate the Nazis. You should let Ron Paul label himself. After all Ron Paul does claim to be "The Champion of the Constitution." Are all an-caps "Champions of the Constitution?"

Well, he's a voluntaryist - so isn't that somewhat of an anarcho-something?

In regards to the OP - yeah, we probably have 10% already - and 3-5 of those who are gonna be the rattlesnake ready to strike with teeth.

So what is the catalizing event? We need something to just go balls to the wall - I'm sick and tired of waiting. We already have enough to get er dun. Waiting for 50% is going to end with everyone in ruin.

 

[Travlyr]

Well, he's a voluntaryist - so isn't that somewhat of an anarcho-something?

In regards to the OP - yeah, we probably have 10% already - and 3-5 of those who are gonna be the rattlesnake ready to strike with teeth.

So what is the catalizing event? We need something to just go balls to the wall - I'm sick and tired of waiting. We already have enough to get er dun. Waiting for 50% is going to end with everyone in ruin.

Right, I have heard Ron Paul say that he favors a voluntary society. As a self described "Champion of the Constitution", I take that to mean that he believes obeying the Rule of Law is the way to a voluntary society. He says it all the time.

Mises says it best in "Liberalism, State and Government" which is a far cry from anything anarcho. Anarchism came after Classical Liberalism and Libertarianism was born from Socialism. Classical Liberalism describes a time when people on Earth were most peaceful, free, and prosperous. All other social philosophies simply undermine liberty.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Travlyr, what are your intellectual interests? Do you have any interest in anything other than this topic you know little to nothing about? You seem to be very interested in anarcho-capitalism. You love to argue about it. You love to chime in if you see it mentioned. The only thing about an-cap you seem to not be interested in is knowing anything about it.

Just follow Ron Paul's reading advice. That's all you need to do. All your problems would be solved.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Thanks for everything you're doing, Catdd. We'll never be truly free until more people show the courage it takes to be true revolutionaries by anonymously insulting others on the internet.

*giggle*