10 House Dems receiving threats

[dr. hfn]

finally someone with balls! now we just need a military coup to save the Republic!

 

[Vessol]

finally someone with balls! now we just need a military coup to save the Republic!

Don't count on that. Many of the enlisted may understand our problems, but the brass is as loyal to the Fabian Democrats as they were to the NeoCons.

 

[messana]

I don't mind the throwing bricks into empty office spaces, but when it comes to hurting or killing other people...

The government needs to know that the people are upset.


The best thing people can do is persuade the state to nullify the bill.

 

[phill4paul]

First a coupla bricks through windows (strongly worded letters, IMHO) then it is full on threats. I mean honestly. After Friday the 50th you haven't read the same script from a hundred other historical novels? The scripts are staid. The governments easily deduced.Perceived threats will culminate in a greater police state. Every congresscritter and senator have envied the protection of the presidency. They want there own entourage while they fly on their donor jets.

 

[QueenB4Liberty]

I don't mind the throwing bricks into empty office spaces, but when it comes to hurting or killing other people...

The government needs to know that the people are upset.


The best thing people can do is persuade the state to nullify the bill.

But that doesn't work. The federal government is telling us so. The federal government isn't leaving a lot of options.

Besides, violence is only wrong if you harm innocents. Government in coercive by nature, I'd never do anything, but you get my drift.

 

[Stary Hickory]

But that doesn't work. The federal government is telling us so. The federal government isn't leaving a lot of options.

Besides, violence is only wrong if you harm innocents. Government in coercive by nature, I'd never do anything, but you get my drift.

The Federal Government has absolutely nothing to do with Nullification. It is done, it can go home. The whole point to nullification is telling the government that we have the right to decide if they have overstepped their bounds. Of course they will not agree, but that is tough krap.

Sick of these guys and tired of the BS. Nullification is VALID. It does not matter what the Federal Government says.

 

[PreDeadMan]

Holy crap did you see this?

Rep. Tom Perriello (D-Va.)'s brother also may have become a target when a Tea Party blogger posted his brother's home address online, believing it was the congressman's address.

Yesterday, Perriello's brother came home and found someone had severed a gas line to a propane tank that was connected to a gas grill on his back porch, CBS News confirms. The FBI and the Albemarle County Fire Marshal are both investigating the matter.

Damn it must be Al Qaeda!! those damn terrorists they hate us for our Barbeque Grills!

 

[Anti Federalist]

The Federal Government has absolutely nothing to do with Nullification. It is done, it can go home. The whole point to nullification is telling the government that we have the right to decide if they have overstepped their bounds. Of course they will not agree, but that is tough krap.

Sick of these guys and tired of the BS. Nullification is VALID. It does not matter what the Federal Government says.

What you said is correct.

That will still not stop the feds from declaring these measures as having no standing and refusing to honor them.

The don't follow any other portion of the law or Constitution, why the hell would they follow this?

So what it's going to come to, is a state enforcing these edicts.

So then a scene ensues where local cops, sheriffs, state cops or state militia head off to arrest federal agents in the process of enforcing their illegal edicts.

A stand off ensues, both sides screaming at the other to stand down, with guns pointed at each other's faces.

Somebody, nervous, sweaty and jerky, fires.

All hell breaks loose.

And then it's on, for real.

 

[Stary Hickory]

What you said is correct.

That will still not stop the feds from declaring these measures as having no standing and refusing to honor them.

The don't follow any other portion of the law or Constitution, why the hell would they follow this?

So what it's going to come to, is a state enforcing these edicts.

So then a scene ensues where local cops, sheriffs, state cops or state militia head off to arrest federal agents in the process of enforcing their illegal edicts.

A stand off ensues, both sides screaming at the other to stand down, with guns pointed at each other's faces.

Somebody, nervous, sweaty and jerky, fires.

All hell breaks loose.

And then it's on, for real.

Well maybe I doubt it, I don't think the Federal Government wants to look ugly. If it does then there is a time for everything I suppose. If force is all that we obey then we may as lay down right now.

If the government chooses force rather than moral authority as it's method for governing, it will not govern long. This country can never be ruled by force.

 

[Mach]

Problem - Reaction - Solution

With all of the passive-aggressive Leftist Propaganda out there now... " TEA PARTY RACIST HATE-MONGERS" etc... etc.. what would be the best way to turn the general population against this rising "Tea Party" movement?

Violence!

Call it a conspiracy theory if you want to, but, if anything would happen I would look for the people in a group that would really benefit from it the most.

"They" create a PROBLEM, the people are shocked, awed, disgusted and demand something be done >>> REACTION>, well, "they" have a SOLUTION waiting in the wings. The trick is, the SOLUTION came before the PROBLEM ever started.
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[Anti Federalist]

Well maybe I doubt it, I don't think the Federal Government wants to look ugly. If it does then there is a time for everything I suppose. If force is all that we obey then we may as lay down right now.

If the government chooses force rather than moral authority as it's method for governing, it will not govern long. This country can never be ruled by force.

No, probably not. If for no other reason than total bankruptcy that is looming over the fedgov.

But force, in and of itself is not as objectionable as most make it out to be.

Defending yourself is not a moral outrage.

It is what it is.

Possibly, with a strong enough display of force, the fedgov could be backed down.

But certainly, meekly going along with the program is not going slow them down.

 

[Stary Hickory]

No, probably not. If for no other reason than total bankruptcy that is looming over the fedgov.

But force, in and of itself is not as objectionable as most make it out to be.

Defending yourself is not a moral outrage.

It is what it is.

Possibly, with a strong enough display of force, the fedgov could be backed down.

But certainly, meekly going along with the program is not going slow them down.

The Federal Government is weakening. If it attacks with force it shows this weakness to the world community, and America loses a lot of face. They can huff and puff and bluff all they want but if states stand up to them the government will back down. We just have to support states rights and the Constitution.

It boils down to the fact that the government cannot alone determine the extent of it's authority. The ongoing financial problems will sap the government of more and more strength. We can force it's hand sooner or later. It will have to deal with States as a SERVANT and not some overlord sooner or later.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Problem - Reaction - Solution

With all of the passive-aggressive Leftist Propaganda out there now... " TEA PARTY RACIST HATE-MONGERS" etc... etc.. what would be the best way to turn the general population against this rising "Tea Party" movement?

Violence!

Call it a conspiracy theory if you want to, but, if anything would happen I would look for the people in a group that would really benefit from it the most.

"They" create a PROBLEM, the people are shocked, awed, disgusted and demand something be done >>> REACTION>, well, "they" have a SOLUTION waiting in the wings. The trick is, the SOLUTION came before the PROBLEM ever started.
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Anything that happens in the next 6 months, at least, that is even remotely "terrorism" related, look at it with a skeptical eye the second it happens.

 

[Anti Federalist]

The Federal Government is weakening. If it attacks with force it shows this weakness to the world community, and America loses a lot of face. They can huff and puff and bluff all they want but if states stand up to them the government will back down. We just have to support states rights and the Constitution.

It boils down to the fact that the government cannot alone determine the extent of it's authority. The ongoing financial problems will sap the government of more and more strength. We can force it's hand sooner or later. It will have to deal with States as a SERVANT and not some overlord sooner or later.

Agreed.

My point is simple, we goddam well better be able to back it up if the feds call the bluff.

 

[Mini-Me]

I'm not sure. I've been debating myself. Is it ok to threaten their children if you don't actually go through with it?

WTF? How low can you go? That's disgusting and completely over the line. AFAIK most mafias don't even go there, and the only people who regularly do are intelligence agencies and their official apologists.

Problem - Reaction - Solution

With all of the passive-aggressive Leftist Propaganda out there now... " TEA PARTY RACIST HATE-MONGERS" etc... etc.. what would be the best way to turn the general population against this rising "Tea Party" movement?

Violence!

Call it a conspiracy theory if you want to, but, if anything would happen I would look for the people in a group that would really benefit from it the most.

"They" create a PROBLEM, the people are shocked, awed, disgusted and demand something be done >>> REACTION>, well, "they" have a SOLUTION waiting in the wings. The trick is, the SOLUTION came before the PROBLEM ever started.
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This. As Stary Hickory said, the federal government is weakening in terms of the influence it has over the people's hearts and minds. In the long run, they know the only way to turn this around is by making their opponents look evil and making themselves look like the good guys again.

 

[Brian in Maryland]

...when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

 

[american.swan]

I'm really worried the peaceful libertarian, who we desperately need, are going to be too week to affect change after the coming round of violence. I think the mainstream GOP should be left alone if and when they "take matters into their own hands" while we wait it out or work behind the scenes and survive.

 

[Nanerbeet]

Remember those GI Joe public service announcements? "Knowing is half the battle?"


VIOLENCE IS STILL THE OTHER HALF.

 

[Mini-Me]

Remember those GI Joe public service announcements? "Knowing is half the battle?"


VIOLENCE IS STILL THE OTHER HALF.

YouTube - GI Joe Parody "Knowing is half the battle"

 

[silverhandorder]

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