Providing a link to the story is always helpful. :rolleyes:
According to news stories I just pulled off the web minutes ago, the death toll was three women and the killer.
Can you provide a source that documents that five women were killed?
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I'm sure you're a legend in your own mind. :p
Of course, nobody knows for sure just how "proficient" they really are until they're in a life-or-death situation where they actually have to use that "cannon".
Your "120lb housewife to the 75 lb adolescent" might just end up being "proficient"...
Sorry Rambo---but it appears that I need to remind you AGAIN that we are discussing the best HOME DEFENSE firearm for an ABSOLUTE BEGINNER.
I hate to impinge on your Macho Man Marine fantasies about shootouts at 125 yards and "stalking" people with a long gun---but I believe when the OP stated...
Marine Corps Lieutenant Colonel Jeff Cooper (deceased) saw combat in WWII and Korea.
He was an internationally recognized expert on small arms, particularly the rifle, shotgun and handgun as they applied to military use and civilian self-defense.
His firm recommendation for a first home...
Actually, I DO mingle with "NRA certified long shot and rifle instructors". My range has rifle, shotgun and pistol ranges---thus we attract members who are skilled with a variety of small arms.
We have a fellow who's an NRA-certified rifle instructor, who competes in long range rifle matches...
^A classic example of the "appeal to authority" logical fallacy---"I'm a Marine with combat experience, which makes me an expert on firearms, including their use in home self-defense."
True tales from the trenches, which prove that being a Marine with combat experience doesn't qualify one as a...
^HYPOCRITE ALERT!
ROTFLMAO! :D
Your immature rant is amusing to say the least, especially considering that you've referred to me in this thread as an "asshole", an "asshat" and a "son of a bitch"---all of which are CLEAR VIOLATIONS of forum rules---whereas I have NOT used any vulgar language...