Zero Jail Time for Iowa Pastor Convicted of Raping Boys to 'Cure Homosexuality'

[SeanTX]

Kind of weird to think that if instead of doing this he had looked at a picture or video of someone else doing what he did he would be facing at least a minimum sentence of 10 years (likely much more).

No, I'm not saying that looking at porn like that is "okay" , it's definitely not in a moral sense -- but still it's bizarre that there are draconian sentences for that yet those who actually commit direct physical abuse against children often just get a slap on the wrist.

 

[goRPaul]

Council Bluffs, IA is IDefendThePlatform's turf. Know anything about it, Tony?

 

[Cleaner44]

If he had 1/4 ounce of bud he would have done the whole sentence.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to kathy88 again.

 

[ronpaulfollower999]

Disgusting.

Religion brainwashes people into thinking something completely harmless will send them to an eternity of pain and suffering.

 

[Sola_Fide]

BTW how did religion/god work out for the parties involved?

What religion do you know of where this is taught: "when they would ejaculate, they would be getting rid of the evil thoughts in their mind.” ???

What religion is that?

 

[Sola_Fide]

Disgusting.

Religion brainwashes people into thinking something completely harmless will send them to an eternity of pain and suffering.

Raping little boys is harmless? Or homosexuality is harmless?

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

The perfect sentence for this guy would've been to throw him in a jail cell for 24-48 hours with several large inmates so the inmates could help 'cure' his 'homosexual tendencies'.

That's bullshit too. Unless you want to codify sexual violence as a punishment for violating others, there's no reason for it to be an "unofficial" punishment. As well, the violator might enjoy that.

If the evidence is strong enough, I'm favorable to physical castration.

 

[ronpaulfollower999]

Raping little boys is harmless? Or homosexuality is harmless?

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Being a homosexual is harmless, but religion brainwashes people into thinking they'll spend the rest of eternity in hell if they don't change their ways. Here we have a pastor that exploited those fears.

 

[thehungarian]

Girouex is said to have told detectives “when they would ejaculate, they would be getting rid of the evil thoughts in their mind.”

This sounds like something Milhouse would say.

 

[Deborah K]

BTW how did religion/god work out for the parties involved? Was that an atrocity?

And what was Sandusky's excuse for doing what he did to all those boys? Don't blame religion/God. Religion was the mask this POS put on to get away with what he was doing, as is always the case when there are atrocities in the name of religion/God. As has already been proven in one of your own threads, more atrocities have been perpetrated under atheist regimes than religious ones.

 

[tod evans]

If the evidence is strong enough, I'm favorable to physical castration.

By the parents with a dull butter knife.

 

[Sola_Fide]

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Being a homosexual is harmless, but religion brainwashes people into thinking they'll spend the rest of eternity in hell if they don't change their ways. Here we have a pastor that exploited those fears.

Being a homosexual is not harmless. That's your religion talking.

 

[juleswin]

Touching, sexual relationship etcc etc, what I would like to know is if there was any penetration with any of the young boys cos if it was just touching, I live with no jail time seeing as he could be genuinely a crazy person that needs mental help

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

That's bullshit too. Unless you want to codify sexual violence as a punishment for violating others, there's no reason for it to be an "unofficial" punishment. As well, the violator might enjoy that.

Just in case it is lost on anyone, I say that for the same reasons that police shouldn't be beating people up "because they deserved it anyway."

 

[heavenlyboy34]

hmmm...an entire government full of murderers and thieves and criminals a-plenty, and a child rapist walks free...something is wrong with this here picture...

 

[Deborah K]

Dear God...

We sympathize too much with sexual predators. Yes, they are diseased, but they deserve jail time too!

Of course they do! He knew what he was doing was wrong, and he did it anyway instead of seeking help for his urges until he had control of them - assuming that is even possible.

 

[thehungarian]

Being a homosexual is not harmless. That's your religion talking.

A state of being doesn't cause harm. Being homosexual is neutral, but homosexual acts(particularly in the male community) do seem to have more risk associated with them, if only for the general promiscuity of the culture.

 

[dannno]

A state of being doesn't cause harm. Being homosexual is neutral, but homosexual acts(particularly in the male community) do seem to have more risk associated with them, if only for the general promiscuity of the culture.

Actually most homosexuals do not practice anal sex, only oral sex, so I don't know if it is any more dangerous.

I believe there was a lot of risky behavior and promiscuity in the days back in San Francisco before the HIV scare because most places in the country were not very open to homosexuality and so they all concentrated in an area where there was greater acceptance and more gay people. So it's sort of like how college kids have a lot of promiscuous sex incidentally in part because you have a huge group of them all together.

 

[Christian Liberty]

What religion do you know of where this is taught: "when they would ejaculate, they would be getting rid of the evil thoughts in their mind.” ???

What religion is that?

The religion of stupid?

Seriously, I can't think of one...

Raping little boys is harmless? Or homosexuality is harmless?

You knew he meant homosexuality

Being a homosexual is not harmless. That's your religion talking.

I've literally had someone try to argue with me on another forum that homosexuality should be illegal for the exact same reasons that rape should be illegal, "Because God said so."



There's a distinction to be made between harm and aggression.

I know you already know this, but some of the non-Christian/anti-Christian people who have only ever heard religion through the lens of statism may need to have that pointed out to them.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Actually most homosexuals do not practice anal sex, only oral sex, so I don't know if it is any more dangerous.

I believe there was a lot of risky behavior and promiscuity in the days back in San Francisco before the HIV scare because most places in the country were not very open to homosexuality and so they all concentrated in an area where there was greater acceptance and more gay people. So it's sort of like how college kids have a lot of promiscuous sex incidentally in part because you have a huge group of them all together.

His point, and he was correct, had to do with the fact that homosexuality is evil, not anything to do with physical harm.