TheTexan
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Because it is, as I just explained above. Which part of a nuclear staring contest between US and Russia do you think doesn't constitute an existential threat (to both Russia and us)?
But it's not.... your explanation makes sense for Lugansk but not for Lviv.
If NATO pushes its border to Lugansk... this would definitely be a volatile situation, for the reasons you have already described.
If NATO pushes its border to Lviv..... shrug? I fail to see how this would present an "existential threat" to Russia? Lviv is about as far west into western Ukraine as you can get. Russia does not care about Lviv.
My point was that the border of NATO is currently officially at the western border of Ukraine. If Ukraine joins NATO, that moves to the eastern border. Then, suppose NATO starts riots in Kiev again, and Russia responds by decisively and effectively defending its interests in that region (pretty much the current situation, or what it's teetering towards). Then, Ukraine tattles on Russia to the NATO principal, and NATO calls on "US support" against "Russian interference" in Ukraine. Then, the suicidal clown-wing of the DC Swamp starts saber-rattling to stage a full boots-on-the-ground occupation of Ukraine "to defend NATO" against "Russian aggression". This would be a Bay of Pigs situation for Russia.
Why would Russia care about what happens in Kiev? If Kiev is rioting, why does Russia care? It's not a Russian region.
If Kiev were shelling Donbass, Putin would care (as is happening today). But if Kiev were otherwise minding its own business, why does Putin care about riots in Kiev?
Putin annexed Crimea not because of what happened in Kiev, but because what was about to happen in Crimea.
Putin does not otherwise care about Kiev.
And you know what's the most absurd Clown World part of it all? This is all on the opposite side of the globe. As an American citizen, I don't give a damn about the internal squabbles of Ex-Soviet satellites. It's none of my business and I don't care. But I'm forced to at least comprehend the basic situation because our interference over there causes political blowback here, which directly affects me and my community. The mugging I just took at the gas-pump is connected to the internal political squabbles of Ukraine and Russia. And that's absurd. The Swamp has got to go...
Yes and this clown shit will probably start WW III. For no good reason other than clown shit