Your Opinion of the ACLU?

[yongrel]

Overall, I like them, though they tend to be pretty liberal. Liberal is okay though, since I agree with that occasionally. I like their stance on free speech, secularism, etc. I'm just not a fan of their 2nd Amendment bashing.

 

[Kade]

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. I support the ACLU, and was thinking about joining.

Actually, if enough people from the Revolution joined, we could reform them just like we are going to reform the Republican Party. I wouldn't mind putting a giant "Under New Management" sign over the door of both institutions.

I am a card carrying member of the ACLU, I keep that quiet around here... but there doesn't seem to be too many outlandish uninformed people here... Of course the ACLU supports things people disagree with... people in this country despise liberty.

 

[acptulsa]

I wish defending the Constitution was all they did--but I'm still glad they do put some effort into doing it.

 

[jmdrake]

People here appear to misunderstand many things...

I am a member of the ACLU and I think it is one of the most important organizations in existence...

As far as second amendment rights go, they explain here: http://www.aclu.org/police/gen/14523res20020304.html

I don't consider gun ownership a basic right, but that's me... I do believe the Constitution gives individuals the right.

Very rarely have I disagreed with the organization... I honestly don't think anyone who cares about civil liberties would...

That's their current position. The ACLU was once quite openly hostile to the 2nd amendment even to the point of being racist. See: http://tinyurl.com/24tb7w The case that the Massachusetts ACLU once cited the Cruikshank case (where the KKK was exonerated for violating the 2nd amendment rights of black folks) as paving the way for "rational gun control".

The most fundamental rights are the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If you don't have a right to self defense how do you defend your right to life?

Note, I used to feel the way you do about gun control.

Regards,

John M. Drake

 

[jmdrake]

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. I support the ACLU, and was thinking about joining.

Actually, if enough people from the Revolution joined, we could reform them just like we are going to reform the Republican Party. I wouldn't mind putting a giant "Under New Management" sign over the door of both institutions.

That's not a bad idea. It fits into G. Edward Griffin's "freedom force" idea.

Regards,

John M. Drake

 

[1836]

I think they do a lot of strange things, but they never do anything to help our government get larger.

So, I'm a member.

 

[Kade]

That's their current position. The ACLU was once quite openly hostile to the 2nd amendment even to the point of being racist. See: http://tinyurl.com/24tb7w The case that the Massachusetts ACLU once cited the Cruikshank case (where the KKK was exonerated for violating the 2nd amendment rights of black folks) as paving the way for "rational gun control".

The most fundamental rights are the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If you don't have a right to self defense how do you defend your right to life?

Note, I used to feel the way you do about gun control.

Regards,

John M. Drake

I think that time has proven that the pen is in fact, mightier than the sword. Who here fights for their rights to own firearms with firearms?

 

[pickdog]

When the ACLU starts defending 2nd amendment rights along with 1st amendment rights I might take them seriously.

But actually they are simply another form of collectivist with their own agenda to push, and it isn't the agenda of individual rights.

bingo!!! and one should check into the POSs that started it...if I recall correctly they were communists

 

[LibertiORDeth]

Still no response to my question though...

 

[familydog]

I think they spend way to much time on goofy issues. To much time defending NAMLA's rights and too little time on protecting individual rights of mine and yours.

That about sums it up. Where were they with the Supreme Court's Kelo decision a couple years back? Justice Thomas summed it up when he said eminent domain discriminates based on race and class. Yet they spend time defeding people who want to have sex with little boys. Not that they don't deserve defending, but when they get their priorities straight, maybe I'll join.