Your favorite comeback to "He can't win"?

[hatefalseweight]

100,000 people who control the corporations and media pool their dog track money (say $1000 eacj) and spread a hundred million between a handful of candidates to make it look like a fight when in fact all of the "frontrunners" are CFR members who have no intention of doing anything other than what their corporate masters tell them to do.

On the other hand, 1 million constitutionally literate and even mildly committed individuals could easily identify a principled candidate with a pro-American, constitutional track record and donate $100 ( a few months of cable and starbucks) and easily overwhelm the collectivist candidates and make it impossible for such a well-funded candidate to be ignored.

So we can't get 1% of the population (note - they wouldn't even have to be voting age to contribute) to combat the 0.1% of the population of "spammers " in the media who run a brainwashing operation and get people to think for themselves?

If you have 200 people at your workplace, this means you need 2 people giving $100 to the campaign. If you've given your $100, then you need one more for your company to do their part.

 

[Roxi]

I say, it voter turnout for the primaries is very low, and it would take such a small amount of people from each state to win each primary. Right now there are thousands of grassroots supporters doing just what were doing to spread the message and get people to vote in the primaries. His popularity has grown 50X in the last 4 months, imagine 15 more months to the primaries!

 

[Akus]

I tell them that if he won't win, neither will the rest of the Jesus party (my name for GOP these days).

I also say that he has won as many straw polls as the other guys and almost alway either wins or comes close second in at those.

 

[Oregon 4 RP]

Ron Paul has won

Ron Paul "can't win"?

I answer by first listing all the things Ron Paul HAS WON!

Start with 10 U.S. Congressional races - people who know him return him consistently - Reps Dems, Indes,etc
Ron Paul won all four GOP presidential debates - don't be mislead by Fox's faux poll in second debate (S.C.) Use ABC and MSNBC polls for that debate
Ron Paul won the military contributions race (2nd Qtr) All candidates, all parties
Ron Paul won the meet up groups race
Ron Paul won you tube videos race
Ron Paul has won several straw votes
Ron Paul is a winner!

Then go to the several other arguments listed on this forum

 

[Jive Dadson]

I hear it from people I talk to who have heard of Ron Paul and like what he says. "Yes, but he can't win." The underlying connotations are; voting for Ron Paul is throwing away your vote, supporting Ron Paul is a waste of time. All of this from just three words!

First and foremost, do not argue.

Compliment the person. Tell him you understand his position, and that it has merit. Say you choose to vote for Ron Paul for personal reasons. Appeal to his nobler instincts. End with a challenge. Something like this:

"I can tell you have thought about this, and I'm glad that you agree with the good doctor's Freedom message. I have heard a lot of people say Ron Paul cannot win, and I've got to admit, you have a pretty strong case. The media certainly do not make it easy to get his message out, and all the big political powers want him out. I'll just say this. I have been waiting all my life for a candidate like Ron Paul, and I am not going to miss this opportunity. I have registered as a Republican, and I am working for Ron Paul every day. There are at least 35,000 of us volunteers, and more are signing up all the time. If he doesn't win, it won't be because we didn't give it our best shot. Your vote is yours to spend the way you see as best for America. But let me ask you to do something for me. Think it over, and see if you can think of a way he could win."

(Props to Dale Carnegie - How to Win Friends and Influence People)

 

[rajibo]

I hear it from people I talk to who have heard of Ron Paul and like what he says. "Yes, but he can't win." The underlying connotations are; voting for Ron Paul is throwing away your vote, supporting Ron Paul is a waste of time. All of this from just three words!

First and foremost, do not argue.

Compliment the person. Tell him you understand his position, and that it has merit. Say you choose to vote for Ron Paul for personal reasons. Appeal to his nobler instincts. End with a challenge. Something like this:

"I can tell you have thought about this, and I'm glad that you agree with the good doctor's Freedom message. I have heard a lot of people say Ron Paul cannot win, and I've got to admit, you have a pretty strong case. The media certainly do not make it easy to get his message out, and all the big political powers want him out. I'll just say this. I have been waiting all my life for a candidate like Ron Paul, and I am not going to miss this opportunity. I have registered as a Republican, and I am working for Ron Paul every day. There are at least 35,000 of us volunteers, and more are signing up all the time. If he doesn't win, it won't be because we didn't give it our best shot. Your vote is yours to spend the way you see as best for America. But let me ask you to do something for me. Think it over, and see if you can think of a way he could win."

(Props to Dale Carnegie - How to Win Friends and Influence People)

Is this the real Jive Dadson! Hell, you're the less sexy, male version of LadyJade.

Keep it up!

 

[micahnelson]

Voter apathy regarding the poor choices among a large field of “big name” candidates, paired with the dedicated grassroot support that second tier candidates are solidifying may mean we will be in for a shock in January. Remember back to your 5th grade math classes:

Question: If there are 5 candidates on a ballot and the votes are spread evenly, what is the smallest percentage of the vote that could secure victory?

Answer: 21%

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[Lois]

I say -- "We have to try." "We can't give up Hope". "Without Hope, we're doomed."

 

[kickzman]

Mine is "Fuck you." It works well with young voters.

 

[Eric21ND]

"That's what they said about Ventura and he won!"

That line works well around Minnesota/North Dakota and young people.

 

[born2drv]

I tell them one of 2 things:

1) Every month his user base more then doubles, he has won more straw polls then any other candidate and his message is spreading like wildfire.

2) 70% of Americans do not Favor the War. Ron Paul is the Only Republican against the war. So if he is not nominated we're going to lose to the Liberal Democrats no matter what.

 

[mtmedlin]

Mine is "Fuck you." It works well with young voters.

ya, i was going to go with a quote from the comedian Ron White.

"Oh ya, well Fuck you!"

 

[Ninja Homer]

No offense, but it looks like most of you give too many facts and statistics. Most people forget about them within about 30 seconds, if they even consider them at all. Facts and statistics work great on the Internet or in writing, but not in person (unless the person is very analytical).

Try something like this:
They say he can't win.

Give them a look of total shock like they just said something that makes them sound crazy.

"Where'd you hear that?!? Everybody I talk to is pretty certain he is going to win!"

That alone might do it. If they answer where they heard it, no matter who it is, just say:
"They must want Barack or Hillary to win. The truth is, Ron Paul is the only Republican who could beat either of them."

If they still don't seem convinced that Ron Paul can win, then say:
"Ron Paul is hardly ever in the news, and he hasn't even started running any kind of ads yet, and he is still winning almost all of the recent straw polls."

Another thing that helps is to always talk as if Ron Paul is guaranteed to be the next President. So rather than, "If Ron Paul is elected as President, he will..." say, "When Ron Paul is President, he will."

Whether people are conscious of these little things or not, they do pick up on them. Talk like you believe it (you do believe it, right?). Share your excitement with them. Excitement is contagious.

 

[Politeia]

"That's what they said about Ventura and he won!"

And, BTW, that's what they said about George Washington.

 

[quickmike]

And, BTW, that's what they said about George Washington.

True about Ventura, good comparison.................... but George Washington???? He didnt have Faux News to contend with and all the sheeple who hung on their every word. Not to mention all the lobbyists dumping money to his competition. George had it easy compared to Ventura and Paul. If Washington were around today it would be "Do you really want a president who disrespects the environment by chopping down cherry trees? Do you really want a president who has wooden teeth? Can america really handle four more years of George Washington?" He would be FINISHED.

 

[tnvoter]

I mention that Jimmy Carter was virtually unknown one year before he won the election. When he called his mother to tell her he was going to run for president, she asked him: "president of what?"

haha

 

[monkeyman]

If its someone like a parent or grandparent or something they say 'but he cant win' you look shocked/disapointed and respond something like 'I thought you taught me to do what was right over what was popular'. Some variation like 'Sorry I thought you were the type to do whats right rather than just follow the crowd'.

In general or it the above response wouldnt likely make the folks from the above groups rethink their position then I like the response, 'So you plan to vote for Hillary? If not then youre truely wasteing your vote. Across the board 70% of voters oppose the war and a large part of the rest dislike Bush, so any of the Republicans who resemble Bush and/or are for 'staying the coarse' in Iraq will send more than 70% of voters to Hillary in ADDITION to the folks who will vote for her either because they are diehard Dems or just to get the first woman in the office and she will win by a landslide. The ONLY Republican that stands a chance IS Ron Paul.

Pointing out that already HAS won the majority of all the straw polls is a great one also, along with the fact that he raised over $1M in under a week from private donations and that he has more voters registered to support him through meet up groups than ANY other candidate in ANY party.
I also like the idea that was mentioned about letting them state the odds they think pertain then give them double or tripple odds and make the biggest bet you can with them. Aside from anything else if they take you up on it then you can make a load of money when he wins!

 

[TechnoGuyRob]

"Yeah, but he can't win."

"Hahahahahaha...ha...ha....wait. You're serious? You do realize, right, that..."

 

[justinc.1089]

I really liked the response saying that if 5 candidates are divided evenly, the smallest percentage that could win is only 21%, and the response saying I would rather do what is right when everyone says it can't be done than do what is wrong because everyone says it can be done.

 

[work2win]

Winning means nothing if the wrong person wins. The RIGHT PERSON winning is what counts.

If the "lesser of two evils" crap comes up, there's about 20 years of evidence to show where that takes us.