You are dead to me Gravel. Dead to me.

[EotS]

Ideas always win in the long run. Utilitarianism is a sell-out, and politics will eat you alive.

 

[hopeforamerica]

Trying to learn to sell principle and negotiate with the consciences of conservatives is pretty much what this movement is all about. Trading lesser evils for ideals is the revolution we're trying to implement. I'm not ready to give up just yet.

You get it!!! Now if we could get more to understand the same. Ron Paul has principles, there are many that do. We just need to out number those that don't. In my area we are working hard to out number the neocons and we will take over soon!

 

[G-Wohl]

supporting principal in politics will doom you to irrelevancy. Politics is sales and negotiation not principal. If that is what you are interested in maybe you should consider a life in academia and far away from politics.

Ron Paul has been supporting principle in politics for his entire political career.

 

[yaz]

I never liked him.
He supports Real ID and global government

+1

 

[rayzer]

Gravel debate on his National Intiative

Mike Gravel thinks that his "National Initiative" will fix everything.

The plan would allow "the people" to "make the laws". He thinks somehow by removing "representative government", all of the sudden people will start educating themselves and acting morally.

We plan to debate him on The North Virginia Patriots Show soon. If you want to help explain to Mike what his is what is wrong with his idea, or even if you think it is a GOOD idea, let us know!

Thanks!

Sincerely,
Ray Powell
http://www.RaymondPowell.com

 

[pmbug]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA2LgJviH9w

Hoo!

 

[wgadget]

It baffles me why people here adore him.

The only thing adorable about him was his rock commercial.

 

[yongrel]

I enjoyed his music video thingy, and I really loved his performances in the debates, but that is as far as my sympathies for him go.

 

[mdh]

I never liked him.
He supports Real ID and global government

No he doesn't. That stuff was spun up based on a misunderstanding of things he said in the past, but the fact is he doesn't. I've spoken to Senator Gravel a number of times personally. While he is not the same as Ron Paul in a vast many ways, he's gutsy, honest, and gives a damn about the country. Agree with him on the issues or not, you've gotta respect him just on character alone.

 

[constituent]

i like gravel. ray, keep us posted on your interview. i've got lots of questions to drop in the chat.

 

[Alawn]

Gravel is worthless. I would never vote for him in a million years no matter who the alternatives were. He does not need to be included. All he could possibly do for us is make us lose credibility.

 

[crazyfingers]

I'd rather vote for Hillary...much rather.

 

[Soccrmastr]

Gravel is a globalist. Why do you people even care about him.

 

[wgadget]

Why does this thread title remind me of Tevya in Fiddler on the Roof?

Hmmm.

 

[weslinder]

I'd rather vote for Hillary...much rather.

As would I. Make no mistake, Mike Gravel is a national socialist right out of the mold of Wilson and Hoover. Hillary is a populist.

 

[Rhys]

Gravel was alive to you at one point. I'm sorry. It's better this way for you now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPZ7t4MwCJk

gravel covers helter skelter

 

[HollyforRP]

I trust Ron Paul. I don't trust Mike Gravel. He's trying to tap into Ron Paul's support and doing it in a idiotic way.

Yeah like we need more smear campaigns against Ron Paul. Mike Gravel, if you really said all of that stuff...we already have the news outlet for slander okay?? Thanks.

Now go build your own platform and quit thinking you can tap into Ron Paul's grassroots support by slandering him. Go away, shoo.

 

[FireofLiberty]

Mike Gravel is a funny kind of Libertarian to me because he was a Democrat a few weeks ago and supporters single-payer government health care and a "citizen's wage."

 

[Conza88]

Mike Gravel is a funny kind of Libertarian to me because he was a Democrat a few weeks ago and supporters single-payer government health care and a "citizen's wage."

Ok. Hahha that was quality.

I have respect for the man sure. He wld have woken up some democrats to a certain extent with those debates. And truth to power anywhere is GOOD. I think he was just misinformed there, or ignorant - whatever the case Ron Paul is right out of his league.

He should have stayed on the dems side and try to bring sanity to that mob, imo. Libertarian party has better to offer imo.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Gravel says the LP is the party of FDR LOL