Yet another vaccine researcher caught faking research

[silverhandorder]

There is only an interest in it because the government and pharmaceutical companies have proven themselves to be crooks time and again. People are rejecting the consensus opinion. This should be celebrated by libertarians, not decried.

Not in the way you accuse them of.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Want to drain the cesspool of Big Science? Simply make sure top journals are funded independently of the current corrupt system of Big Science. That's all you need to do. Let the journals compete without being beholden to the current benefactors. It's not hard, and it could be done.

http://www.thedailybell.com/news-ana....jpgd65iD.dpuf

 

[DGambler]

Donnay is pretty even keeled in her threads. The only name calling, attacking and cruel responses I see in these threads are from angelatc and zippy. You guys need to learn some fucking decorum. I'm tired of coming into donnay 's threads and seeing you two ass monkey's derailing the thread time and again.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

Donnay is pretty even keeled in her threads. The only name calling, attacking and cruel responses I see in these threads are from angelatc and zippy. You guys need to learn some fucking decorum. I'm tired of coming into donnay 's threads and seeing you two ass monkey's derailing the thread time and again.

no doubt. They are desperate to carry water for their precious establishment and to silence any possible dissent. Their tactics are very similar to Ron Paul's political opposition with whom they have much in common.

 

[silverhandorder]

Donnay is pretty even keeled in her threads. The only name calling, attacking and cruel responses I see in these threads are from angelatc and zippy. You guys need to learn some fucking decorum. I'm tired of coming into donnay 's threads and seeing you two ass monkey's derailing the thread time and again.

no doubt. They are desperate to carry water for their precious establishment and to silence any possible dissent. Their tactics are very similar to Ron Paul's political opposition with whom they have much in common.

Please quote zippy using any name calling. Angela also dishes back maybe 10% of what your side does.

I am a neutral observer here. All I see is people posting conspiracy links.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Mike Adams: The Bullshit Ranger

How so? I haven't read too much from him but am curious as to why you say this. Give us a paper or something that he has written, if you don't mind, that would indicate this, please.

 

[angelatc]

How so? I haven't read too much from him but am curious as to why you say this. Give us a paper or something that he has written, if you don't mind, that would indicate this, please.

It's really pretty simple. Pick something he has written, and it is bullshit.

 

[amy31416]

Donnay is pretty even keeled in her threads. The only name calling, attacking and cruel responses I see in these threads are from angelatc and zippy. You guys need to learn some fucking decorum. I'm tired of coming into donnay 's threads and seeing you two ass monkey's derailing the thread time and again.

The closest thing to an insult that I've seen Zippy post is that Borax is a chemical--he did that, and I've done that because Donnay doesn't seem to know what chemicals are, and will often use the word as if it means something sinister.

This is really basic stuff that gets people frustrated or simply rolling their eyes at her.

I don't know much about the technicalities of economics, so I keep my mouth shut about it and just read the threads--I don't post things as though I'm some sort of expert.

 

[angelatc]

Donnay is pretty even keeled in her threads. The only name calling, attacking and cruel responses I see in these threads are from angelatc and zippy. You guys need to learn some fucking decorum. I'm tired of coming into donnay 's threads and seeing you two ass monkey's derailing the thread time and again.

I think you mean debunking, not derailing.

Derailing would be taking the thread off-topic. Sort of like posting about the behavior of certain posters in a thread about alleged scientific fraud.

 

[Natural Citizen]

It's really pretty simple. Pick something he has written, and it is bullshit.

Aside from arguing about vaccines here there certainly is some interesting reading on that site. Going to have to bookmark it.

This is interesting. It was from the first article on the page. I guess the one that donnay shared here.

Merck vaccine scientist Dr. Maurice Hilleman admitted presence of SV40, AIDS and cancer viruses in vaccines

I remember why I never really paid much attention to his stuff now. It was all of the products that were being advertised on the site. I tend to stay away from those.

Some good reading regardless of that though. I'm all for people questioning more. That's what is important. We ask, you decide platforms are why we have the situation we have now. You know? Too often people are selective in what they ask simply to get a prescribed response. Perhaps that's what the fuss is about Adams. Is he asking things that some folks aren't comfortable with people hearing or something?

 

[TaftFan]

How so? I haven't read too much from him but am curious as to why you say this. Give us a paper or something that he has written, if you don't mind, that would indicate this, please.

Try reading his website, Natural News. Nearly every article from NN posted on here has some sort of inaccuracy or lie. It is incredible.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Try reading his website, Natural News. Nearly every article from NN posted on here has some sort of inaccuracy or lie. It is incredible.

I was just looking at it. I've seen it before. It just kind of fell off of the radar for me. Regardless of any personal opinions the guy has he certainly has some interesting material. Kind of like infowars. I don't read or watch infowars either but they do a great job at producing legit material that mainstream has to come around red faced and eventually admit while forgetting that they led the charge in crying conspiracy theory before the gig was up. Historic stuff.

I know that this thread is about vaccine research but I got so much more out of that paper than a reason to debate vaccines.

 

[angelatc]

Aside from arguing about vaccines here there certainly is some interesting reading on that site. Going to have to bookmark it.

This is interesting. It was from the first article on the page. I guess the one that donnay shared here.

Merck vaccine scientist Dr. Maurice Hilleman admitted presence of SV40, AIDS and cancer viruses in vaccines

We have been over that about 100 times already. It's 90% bullshit. Zippy know this one better than I do, but IIRC it was an accident that the SV40 was in the vaccines, and there has been no increase in the rate of cancer in the population that got those shots.

Is he asking things that some folks aren't comfortable with people hearing or something?

No, he isn't asking anything. He's just a con man who uses chicanery to sell snake oil to gullible people.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

No, he isn't asking anything. He's just a con man who uses chicanery to sell snake oil to gullible people.

He runs a website that people can choose to go to. Meanwhile, your precious pharmaceutical companies use government propaganda to push their shots into unsuspecting children. I think it's pretty obvious who the real villain is here.

 

[silverhandorder]

He runs a website that people can choose to go to. Meanwhile, your precious pharmaceutical companies use government propaganda to push their shots into unsuspecting children. I think it's pretty obvious who the real villain is here.

Snakeoil salesman have voluntary customers getting defrauded.

Pharma companies are no different then 95% of society who use government as a rent seeking vehicle. Admit it you don't like big pharma and not the fact that they get subsidies.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

Snakeoil salesman have voluntary customers getting defrauded.

The children getting shots they don't need and pills that warp their minds forced into them with government approval to line big pharma's pockets are the ones getting preyed upon and defrauded, not the people who visit a generally pro-liberty website.

 

[donnay]

The children getting shots they don't need and pills that warp their minds forced into them with government approval to line big pharma's pockets are the ones getting preyed upon and defrauded, not the people who visit a generally pro-liberty website.

Well said.

 

[silverhandorder]

The children getting shots they don't need and pills that warp their minds forced into them with government approval to line big pharma's pockets are the ones getting preyed upon and defrauded, not the people who visit a generally pro-liberty website.

I could say the same about you putting your kids at risk by not getting the shot.

 

[angelatc]

He runs a website that people can choose to go to. Meanwhile, your precious pharmaceutical companies use government propaganda to push their shots into unsuspecting children. I think it's pretty obvious who the real villain is here.

Yeah, but it isn't the people who are telling us that vaccines make people sick and the government is out to kill us.

 

[angelatc]

The children getting shots they don't need and pills that warp their minds forced into them with government approval to line big pharma's pockets are the ones getting preyed upon and defrauded, not the people who visit a generally pro-liberty website.

Why do you think kids don't need vaccines?

Millions of lives have been saved through vaccines, and yet here you are insisting children don't need shots. You have to be absolutely willfully blind to ignore the mountain of evidence.