www.garyjohnson2012.com Hints at RP VP offer, no mention of Jim Gray

[ClydeCoulter]

Folks, If you are going to vote at all, you have to ask, who of the 3 people on the ballot best REPRESENTS your views? For those that would write-in RP, the GJ/RP ticket would yield more impact than a write-in to advance the cause of liberty going forward! This is a no-brainer win-win to me.

To me, that's choosing the lesser of the two options, RP/GJ, GJ/RP.
I want the better of the 2 options, and I would think it benefits Gary more also.

 

[parocks]

Folks, If you are going to vote at all, you have to ask, who of the 3 people on the ballot best REPRESENTS your views? For those that would write-in RP, the GJ/RP ticket would yield more impact than a write-in to advance the cause of liberty going forward! This is a no-brainer win-win to me.

It's even easier than that - who would be the best President? Obama, Romney, Johnson? Ron Paul probably won't be on the ballot as a VP or at the top of the ticket.

Gary Johnson is the only true conservative. Obama and Romney would govern the same.

 

[torchbearer]

Ron Paul: Libertarian Johnson is “wonderful”
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2012/09/04/ron-paul-libertarian-johnson-is-wonderful/

Texas’ Republican Rep. Ron Paul has yet to endorse in the race for president,
but is showering praise on the long shot Libertarian Party candidate, ex-New
Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson.

“I think he’s wonderful, and I think he’s doing a good job and people should
look at him and every individual should make up his own mind,” Paul, who sought
the Republican nomination, told Fox
News.


Ron Paul, R-Texas, Republican presidential candidate,
March 2012. (Chip Somodevilla / Getty Images) / SL


But Jesse Benton, who directed Paul’s 2012 presidential campaign, told the Daily Caller that Paul “will not endorse
Gary Johnson.”

Still, the sound bite to Fox News has become part of a Gary Johnson video in
which former Paul supporters sing Johnson’s praises. Paul was the Libertarians’
candidate for president in 1988, between two stints in Congress as a
Republican.

Paul supporters are continuing to fight for power in the Republican Party,
and the congressman’s son, Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, has staked his future in
the GOP and spoke to its convention last week.

But Ron Paul voice dissatisfaction with Mitt Romney’s convention acceptance
speech.

“I remain very very skeptical of hearing anything that will change the course
of history,” he told Bloomberg News. “There was no talk of the Federal
Reserve. One of the engines of spending is militarism and empire and he
enhanced. He was pushing it.”

Johnson served two terms as governor of New Mexico, as a Republican. He was
briefly a candidate for the 2012 GOP nomination, but later sought and won the
Libertarians’ nod. Johnson is an outspoken critic of the War on Drugs and
advocates legalization of cannabis.

Billionaire oilman David Koch ran for vice president on the Libertarians’
1980 ticket, but this year is spending and raising as much as $400 million to
back Republican candidates.

 

[presence]

If you go on the main site, and scroll down a bit, there is a whole section dedicated to Jim Gray.

As much as I would love RP to have the VP slot, I don't think it's going to happen.

sure... thats:

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/front

but if you go to:

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com

No mention of Gray; NOBP.

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

But I don't believe Johnson is doing this.
I put in bold something in your post that people used to say about Ron Paul.
He doesn't have a chance because he isn't given one.

Paul didn't have a chance in 08, but his exposure allowed him to build a base for a more realistic run in 12, and to launch CFL. In 12 Paul did have a shot at it going into Iowa, we were all witness to it.

Everyone that runs for President (and for that matter any major office) has a primary and secondary reason for running. The primary usually is because they have a shot to win, but the secondary can range from building a base to other more personal reasons (financial gain, notoriety, etc). Take Santorum for example, his secondary reason for running this year was to position himself for the future. Newt's was probably to up his speaking fees and keep his name in the national spotlight.

Johnson isn't given a chance because the LP is a complete failure as a political party. In 40 years of trying (1000's of times mind you) they have never won a Congressional seat. They do not have anyone within the party that has won an elected office at the state level in over 10 years - they do not know how to win an election. They have no farm team, they have no candidates running that have the name recognition in their districts to get more than a few percentage points. And they have been in a steady decline as far as their Presidential candidates for years now - their best finish was in 1980. They are a glorified debating society and little more. If they could actually win an elected office on their own (the large majority of their 12 state legislature victories were with fusion candidates) then maybe some people will actually pay attention to them. But until they do, anything they put out there is an exercise in futility.

 

[sailingaway]

To work alone are we entitled, never its fruit.
-Bhagavad Gita

You think Ron really cares what's in it for him? Is that the type you pick him for?


If the Johnson/Gray ticket became a Johnson/Paul ticket overnight I'll bet you 2 Romneybucks Johnson's Rasmussen is up to 2% minimum the following day.


MSM speaking slot after each debate is just as good.

great, then let Gary take that ...

Seriously, the only incentive for Ron is to be in the debates. He would bring polling numbers to get there and Gary's wont get him or whomever his VP is there. It just doesn't make sense.

I can't see them winning if they aren't in the debates so any 'influence' after election doesn't seem like a practical incentive to me.

However, I also don't see the LP running to take the institutional steps necessary to make either VP or Presidential nominee change happen. I agree this seems to be about Gary trying to get RP supporters to vote for Gary, not a suggestion that they are trying to bring Ron in.

 

[MozoVote]

The Libertarian chairman has already said it would make ballot access difficult. And the Libertarian party already expends a vast portion of its budget on existing ballot access.

Aint. Gonna. Happen.

 

[sailingaway]

The Libertarian chairman has already said it would make ballot access difficult. And the Libertarian party already expends a vast portion of its budget on existing ballot access.

Aint. Gonna. Happen.

Yeah, but if Ron were willing to file for matching funds from his primary run, the budget would be one the LP has never seen. But I agree it doesn't look like it is happening. I had thought there was actual interest on the LP side in pushing this, initially.

 

[American Idol]

The Libertarian chairman has already said it would make ballot access difficult. And the Libertarian party already expends a vast portion of its budget on existing ballot access.

Aint. Gonna. Happen.

Well looks like they'll get 0.45% of the vote again and then be on their merry way...almost halfway to one percent. You can do it!

 

[RPsupporterAtHeart]

They misspelled telEvised

just saying...

 

[wgadget]

I think GJ should be a Libertarian with Ron Paul myself.

 

[RickyJ]

Anyway I have a chance to vote for Ron Paul I will take it, even if it is just a VP slot.

 

[presence]

They misspelled telEvised

just saying...

That was me. I typed the speech-to-text from the video. I can only crank out about 65 wpm accurately from video.

 

[presence]

Anyway I have a chance to vote for Ron Paul I will take it, even if it is just a VP slot.

You and everyone else. Which is why VP on the LP is the perfect concession.

 

[presence]

I think GJ should be a Libertarian with Ron Paul myself.

Thats wonderful, but GJ still has a ticket to be on and RP is treading water.

and a LP RP/GJ ticket is "technically/legally" much more impractical at this stage than GJ/RP LP ticket.

Go with the flow and get back on the boat.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

That was me. I typed the speech-to-text from the video. I can only crank out about 65 wpm accurately from video.

What software are you using?

-t

 

[Magsec]

GJ has shown far more class and respect to RP than Barr (AKA Mr. Stood Up) ever did. He's definitely someone worth voting for if you align closely with RP's views.

 

[Tod]

VP makes no sense for Ron. He'd bring everything, get nothing, and neither of them would be in the debates because Gary is polling 1% with over 60% not knowing who he is, per Rasmussen. The point of it would be to get Ron in the Presidential debates. But wouldn't that require just as much a rule change as giving Ron the top slot?

Not that Gary or the LP have to do any of this, but that one article was raising the rules, and if this is doable I would think that were, as well.

The only really bad part I can see of a J/P ticket would be the extra difficulty in getting elected. After that, there is no reason to think that they have to maintain traditional roles with a basically do-nothing VP. Sure, some things can only be done by the President, but the VP could take a lot more important role if the P wishes.

 

[presence]

What software are you using?

-t

just a notepad app under my browser and my 10 fingers flying... human speech is about 120 wpm. I type 60+ so I train myself to type the first 3 letters of every word, then I fill in. I was hasty when I typed television and my word checker didn't catch it.

there is no reason to think that they have to maintain traditional roles with a basically do-nothing VP. Sure, some things can only be done by the President, but the VP could take a lot more important role if the P wishes.

Cheney?

 

[James Otis Jr.]

Exactly. Johnson needs gullible people to send him money so he can travel around the country, stay in hotels, eat out every night and pretend to be a candidate for President that is being taken seriously by anyone other than 0.5% of the voting public. The more "viable" he appears, the more copies of his book he can sell from his web store.

Is this what you said about Ron Paul in 1988? Some of the anti-Gary Johnson stuff I'm reading here is ridiculous. Gary Johnson is NOT Ron Paul. I understand why a Ron Paul supporter might vote for him. I understand why a Ron Paul supporter might not vote for him. But, I do not understand why a Ron Paul supporter would blatantly disrespect him. A candidate like Johnson deserves better here.