www.garyjohnson2012.com Hints at RP VP offer, no mention of Jim Gray

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Check the intro video. Nothing but Paul.

Check the logo... still just "Gary Johnson" not "Johnson/Gray"

No mention of Jim Gray on intro/cover page:

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/

Nothing but the Good Doctor!

Here's the youtube of the intro video:

GARY JOHNSON - Ron Paul REVOLUTIONARY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xrU6hTWyj6s


I'm Gary Johnson.
As a former Republican Govenor I endorsed Ron Paul in 2008.
While appearing in a nationally televised debate in 2012 I was asked whom I would select as my running mate if elected:

I said Doctor Ron Paul, without Hesitation.

His efforts have changed America; they have changed me.
The Revolution he ignited in the hearts and mind of Americans will not fade away.
It grows stronger every day and will continue to grow because Ron Paul is right.

Be a Libertarian with me one time


Together we'll send the unmistakable message that the Ron Paul Revolution isn't a fluke.

Its the Future!

Live Free!

Scrolling text:
Gary Johnson
Libertarian Candidate for President
Be a Libertarian
One time
Send a Message
Live Free
End the Wars
Abolish the IRS
Audit the Fed
End the War on Drugs
Keep Liberty Alive


Gary Johnson 2012:
Be a Libertarian with Me


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Ron in the LP VP slot = liberty movement unity AND Ron Paul on MSM commenting on the debates every night.

Ultimately, what paulite would deny a ticket w/ P in the VP? None
What "libertarian party" would deny a ticket w/ GJ in Pres position? None
And what "undecided, establisment scorn" wouldn't flock to a libertarian ticket w/ RP in the VP given choice Obomney, Roboma, or C?

Win win win. = 40% ???

There would be no greater smack in the face of the establishment and social order than GJ in the Whitehouse and no easier way for him to get there than w/ RP as VP.

And even if J/P ticket loses... it gave all the "protest vote" people a common ticket to chant for,

which gives "the anti-establishment" a moment of national unity under the "Libertarian" banner

and LIKELY a double digit showing in the election.

win win win... smack, finishing move, bonus completion points.

The short story is that [many important members of the Libertarian campaign] contacted me, and

they would do what it takes

to have you on their ticket as a VP Candidate.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ICIAL-Thread&p=4629019&viewfull=1#post4629019

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I'd take that ticket. Only way I'd vote for Johnson in fact. I know everyone wants Ron at the top of the ticket, but he would have exorbitant influence on Gary, I'm sure, without the stress and publicity. Win/win for RP I'd say. And it wouldn't be seen as Ron "taking over" the LP, it would be seen as him joining them because of the GOP corruption.
 
VP makes no sense for Ron. He'd bring everything, get nothing, and neither of them would be in the debates because Gary is polling 1% with over 60% not knowing who he is, per Rasmussen. The point of it would be to get Ron in the Presidential debates. But wouldn't that require just as much a rule change as giving Ron the top slot?

Not that Gary or the LP have to do any of this, but that one article was raising the rules, and if this is doable I would think that were, as well.
 
I think that video is just a way for Johnson to get RP supporters.

I don't think it hints at anything.
 
If you go on the main site, and scroll down a bit, there is a whole section dedicated to Jim Gray.

As much as I would love RP to have the VP slot, I don't think it's going to happen.
 
VP makes no sense for Ron. He'd bring everything, get nothing, and neither of them would be in the debates because Gary is polling 1% with over 60% not knowing who he is, per Rasmussen. The point of it would be to get Ron in the Presidential debates. But wouldn't that require just as much a rule change as giving Ron the top slot?

Not that Gary or the LP have to do any of this, but that one article was raising the rules, and if this is doable I would think that were, as well.

The rules say nothing about one or both stepping down, other than if it's the prez slot the VP steps up. It's uncharted territory, so they can basically do anything.

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I think that video is just a way for Johnson to get RP supporters.

I don't think it hints at anything.

Exactly. Johnson needs gullible people to send him money so he can travel around the country, stay in hotels, eat out every night and pretend to be a candidate for President that is being taken seriously by anyone other than 0.5% of the voting public. The more "viable" he appears, the more copies of his book he can sell from his web store.
 
Exactly. Johnson needs gullible people to send him money so he can travel around the country, stay in hotels, eat out every night and pretend to be a candidate for President that is being taken seriously by anyone other than 0.5% of the voting public. The more "viable" he appears, the more copies of his book he can sell from his web store.

with friends like you, who needs enemies.
i hear canibalism is a growing trend. maybe i'll join you.
 
Exactly. Johnson needs gullible people to send him money so he can travel around the country, stay in hotels, eat out every night and pretend to be a candidate for President that is being taken seriously by anyone other than 0.5% of the voting public. The more "viable" he appears, the more copies of his book he can sell from his web store.

I don't think that was the point I was trying to make and I don't think that is in any way what Johnson is trying to do.
 
He's got a point though. Running for president can be a lucrative venture.

it can also be a pain-in-the-ass thankless task where you have to put up with douche bags like the aholes on this forum.
we don't need enemies, we have ourselves.
 
VP makes no sense for Ron. He'd bring everything, get nothing,

To work alone are we entitled, never its fruit.
-Bhagavad Gita

You think Ron really cares what's in it for him? Is that the type you pick him for?

and neither of them would be in the debates because Gary is polling 1% with over 60% not knowing who he is, per Rasmussen.
If the Johnson/Gray ticket became a Johnson/Paul ticket overnight I'll bet you 2 Romneybucks Johnson's Rasmussen is up to 2% minimum the following day.

The point of it would be to get Ron in the Presidential debates. But wouldn't that require just as much a rule change as giving Ron the top slot?
MSM speaking slot after each debate is just as good.
 
VP makes no sense for Ron. He'd bring everything, get nothing, and neither of them would be in the debates because Gary is polling 1% with over 60% not knowing who he is, per Rasmussen. The point of it would be to get Ron in the Presidential debates. But wouldn't that require just as much a rule change as giving Ron the top slot?

Not that Gary or the LP have to do any of this, but that one article was raising the rules, and if this is doable I would think that were, as well.

Totally agree.

They need to flip if this is going to work.
 
I don't think that was the point I was trying to make and I don't think that is in any way what Johnson is trying to do.

My apologies to you, but I meant what I said. Johnson is either completely delusional and thinks that he can win, or he is using this run for his own personal gain in some way. And it is not just Johnson that does this, others have as well. I get a little more burned up over Johnson than the others though, since Johnson is trying to sponge off the success that Ron Paul has had bringing in new donors to the political process.
 
Folks, If you are going to vote at all, you have to ask, who of the 3 people on the ballot best REPRESENTS your views? For those that would write-in RP, the GJ/RP ticket would yield more impact than a write-in to advance the cause of liberty going forward! This is a no-brainer win-win to me.
 
My apologies to you, but I meant what I said. Johnson is either completely delusional and thinks that he can win, or he is using this run for his own personal gain in some way. And it is not just Johnson that does this, others have as well. I get a little more burned up over Johnson than the others though, since Johnson is trying to sponge off the success that Ron Paul has had bringing in new donors to the political process.

But I don't believe Johnson is doing this.
I put in bold something in your post that people used to say about Ron Paul.
He doesn't have a chance because he isn't given one.
 
My apologies to you, but I meant what I said. Johnson is either completely delusional and thinks that he can win, or he is using this run for his own personal gain in some way. And it is not just Johnson that does this, others have as well. I get a little more burned up over Johnson than the others though, since Johnson is trying to sponge off the success that Ron Paul has had bringing in new donors to the political process.

The most likely reason is that Johnson thinks it's good that people have a choice. He's a nice, solid, respectable, legitimate protest vote. I assume I'll vote for GJ.
 
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