wtf?

Disgusting. When are people going to get fed up enough to actually do something. The founders went to war over less for crying out loud!
 
And people think you're joking around when you say...... they herd us like cattle.
 
With all due respect, the protest didn't strike me as being overly peaceful. Both protesters and police were amped and polarizing. I dunno why you Americans are so addicted to hype...with all due respect again.

As said the old seventies slogan 'fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity"... yup. As for your article Sarge, well if McCain gets in, I'll have my own private riot in my own private living room and it won't be because I'm a spoilt brat!
 
With all due respect, the protest didn't strike me as being overly peaceful. Both protesters and police were amped and polarizing. I dunno why you Americans are so addicted to hype...with all due respect again.

As said the old seventies slogan 'fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity"... yup. As for your article Sarge, well if McCain gets in, I'll have my own private riot in my own private living room and it won't be because I'm a spoilt brat!

Part of the crew part of the ship!
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With all due respect, the protest didn't strike me as being overly peaceful. Both protesters and police were amped and polarizing. I dunno why you Americans are so addicted to hype...with all due respect again.

As said the old seventies slogan 'fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity"... yup. As for your article Sarge, well if McCain gets in, I'll have my own private riot in my own private living room and it won't be because I'm a spoilt brat!

I understand where you're coming from, BUT, if our forefathers would have protested by just sitting in a nice little circle and only taken care of things by using "the kings" crooked laws in a nice orderly fashion.... we wouldn't be here right now.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice."

Thomas Paine
 
I understand where you're coming from, BUT, if our forefathers would have protested by just sitting in a nice little circle and only taken care of things by using "the kings" crooked laws in a nice orderly fashion.... we wouldn't be here right now.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice."

Thomas Paine

I think you may have missed a distinction. Raiha was talking about "Fighting for Peace" and she is right -- it's an oxymoron, err, at least a contradiction in terms. You are talking about fighting for liberty -- a different matter altogether, and without contradiction.
 
I think you may have missed a distinction. Raiha was talking about "Fighting for Peace" and she is right -- it's an oxymoron, err, at least a contradiction in terms. You are talking about fighting for liberty -- a different matter altogether, and without contradiction.

Peace and liberty go hand in hand. You can't have peace without liberty and you can't have liberty without peace.
 
Peace and liberty go hand in hand. You can't have peace without liberty and you can't have liberty without peace.

Hmmm...

You can peace yourself right into slavery. During the original American Revolution, the ones who advocated peace over liberty were usually the loyalists. Peace and liberty do not always fall on the same side of the line.
 
Hmmm...

You can peace yourself right into slavery. During the original American Revolution, the ones who advocated peace over liberty were usually the loyalists. Peace and liberty do not always fall on the same side of the line.

It depends on which fell first, peace or liberty. If liberty fell first, then only force by the hands of those that lost it can restore both. If peace fell first, then force is not the way to go. In this case, liberty was lost first.
 
I think you may have missed a distinction. Raiha was talking about "Fighting for Peace" and she is right -- it's an oxymoron, err, at least a contradiction in terms. You are talking about fighting for liberty -- a different matter altogether, and without contradiction.

I'll just jump ahead and keep it simple, I'll take freedom over peace every single time.

If I'm marching down the street for peace and they show up with all kinds of weapons, start restricting our movement and roughing people up, what are we supposed to do, sit down and take a self righteous beating for peace..... with a smile?
 
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