WTF does it take to get a gun where you live? OMFG @ Boston

[psywarrior13]

This is why I love MO.

Step 1. See Gun you want.

Step 2. Say "I'll Take it"

Step 3. Fill out 4473 for your background check

Step 4. Wait for five minutes (most of the time) for approval

Step 5. Pay

Then Enjoy. The process takes about 10 minutes.

 

[nate895]

Massachusetts has taken on pre-Independence, Crown like authority it seems. Sort of like it regressed to pre-revolutionary history.

Nate895 weeps for liberty in the hotbed of revolutionary fervor.

 

[Chosen]

Nate895 weeps for liberty in the hotbed of revolutionary fervor.

Odd isn't it? The very place it was born has become the very place where it is almost extinguished.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Texas laughs at the FAIL that is New England

Bite me TexAss.

Vermont - open or concealed carry no questions asked, no "permit" of any kind required for any type of firearm.

NH - open carry (except in vehicles), CCW - no test, no biometrics, no SS numbers, 10 bucks for 4 years - no "permit of any kind required for any type of firearm.

ME - basically the same thing as NH.

All three states have very strong wording in their state constitutions concerning the right to keep and bear arms.

And we don't have spy cameras peering down at us everywhere.

We also are almost always in the top five ranking of states with the lowest violent crime rate.

 

[ihsv]

This is why I love MO.

Step 1. See Gun you want.

Step 2. Say "I'll Take it"

Step 3. Fill out 4473 for your background check

Step 4. Wait for five minutes (most of the time) for approval

Step 5. Pay

Then Enjoy. The process takes about 10 minutes.

Same as KY. Open carry state, permit for CCW though. We have a constitutional pre-emption on all local firearms laws.

 

[Kotin]

Bite me TexAss.

Vermont - open or concealed carry no questions asked, no "permit" of any kind required for any type of firearm.

NH - open carry (except in vehicles), CCW - no test, no biometrics, no SS numbers, 10 bucks for 4 years - no "permit of any kind required for any type of firearm.

ME - basically the same thing as NH.

All three states have very strong wording in their state constitutions concerning the right to keep and bear arms.

And we don't have spy cameras peering down at us everywhere.

We also are almost always in the top five ranking of states with the lowest violent crime rate.

that is badass.


I'll give props to any state with those stats

 

[Chosen]

Texas does have shoot first provisions.

 

[OddballAZ]

And I thought Arizona was bad

LOL how so? If it wasn't for the damn 44whatever the fuck form the BATFAG's make everyone fill out, buying a gun here would be like buying a candy bar a a Circle K (which is how it should be).

The OP simply needs to move. Any free man should not even attempt to put up with that shit. Move.

 

[bkreigh]

Maine is great. Pick out a gun you want. Fill out a form. They call in. You pay. You leave.

Or you can just buy a gun off a buddy's friend and leave it at that. I didnt even meet the guy

 

[xd9fan]

Why do you live there.

The second "white flight" is happening. Red states are growing....blue states are dying......gee wonder why

 

[ghengis86]

Indiana is not bad either for buying from FFL:

Pick out gun or guns (handgun or rifle), fill out 4473, pick up some ammo, pay and leave. Total time; 15 minutes max.

I seriously pity those who live in such horrible states/cities like the OP. I live very close to Chicago and it makes me sick that my sibling's that live there are so inadequately protected. There were 520 murders last year in the city. When all you have is seconds, the cops are minutes away.

 

[SWATH]

KY: cash and carry

There are no state laws about buying a gun, only compliance with federal.

 

[asimplegirl]

How are the IT jobs in Louisiana? I wouldn't mind moving there if I could find work.

BTW I loved your thread on homemade bread

Any of the major cities are good for IT. They are mostly small businesses, but some are bigger.

Hubby has been doing IT as a job since '96. He has been laid off 5 times because alot of the small businesses in that particular service end up having to close down in the smaller areas, and being the new guy doesn't help you keep your job. . But, he can't say much because it is a volatile trade..just something you have to accept in that field. He says he is sure you know, it is a chance you take in that field.

Oh, and thank you.

Oh, yeah, as for the "shoot first laws":

RS 14:18

18. Justification; general provisions

The fact that an offender's conduct is justifiable, although otherwise criminal, shall constitute a defense to prosecution for any crime based on that conduct. This defense of justification can be claimed under the following circumstances:

(1) When the offender's conduct is an apparently authorized and reasonable fulfillment of any duties of public office; or

(2) When the offender's conduct is a reasonable accomplishment of an arrest which is lawful under the Code of Criminal Procedure; or

(3) When for any reason the offender's conduct is authorized by law; or

(4) When the offender's conduct is reasonable discipline of minors by their parents, tutors or teachers; or

(5) When the crime consists of a failure to perform an affirmative duty and the failure to perform is caused by physical impossibility; or

(6) When any crime, except murder, is committed through the compulsion of threats by another of death or great bodily harm, and the offender reasonably believes the person making the threats is present and would immediately carry out the threats if the crime were not committed; or

(7) When the offender's conduct is in defense of persons or of property under any of the circumstances described in Articles 19 through 22.

RS 14:19

19. Use of force or violence in defense

A. The use of force or violence upon the person of another is justifiable when committed for the purpose of preventing a forcible offense against the person or a forcible offense or trespass against property in a person's lawful possession, provided that the force or violence used must be reasonable and apparently necessary to prevent such offense, and that this Section shall not apply where the force or violence results in a homicide.

B. For the purposes of this Section, there shall be a presumption that a person lawfully inside a dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle held a reasonable belief that the use of force or violence was necessary to prevent unlawful entry thereto, or to compel an unlawful intruder to leave the premises or motor vehicle, if both of the following occur:

(1) The person against whom the force or violence was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering or had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle.

(2) The person who used force or violence knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring or had occurred.

C. A person who is not engaged in unlawful activity and who is in a place where he or she has a right to be shall have no duty to retreat before using force or violence as provided for in this Section and may stand his or her ground and meet force with force.

D. No finder of fact shall be permitted to consider the possibility of retreat as a factor in determining whether or not the person who used force or violence in defense of his person or property had a reasonable belief that force or violence was reasonable and apparently necessary to prevent a forcible offense or to prevent the unlawful entry.

Acts 2006, No. 141, §1.

RS 14:20

20. Justifiable homicide

A. A homicide is justifiable:

(1) When committed in self-defense by one who reasonably believes that he is in imminent danger of losing his life or receiving great bodily harm and that the killing is necessary to save himself from that danger.

(2) When committed for the purpose of preventing a violent or forcible felony involving danger to life or of great bodily harm by one who reasonably believes that such an offense is about to be committed and that such action is necessary for its prevention. The circumstances must be sufficient to excite the fear of a reasonable person that there would be serious danger to his own life or person if he attempted to prevent the felony without the killing.

(3) When committed against a person whom one reasonably believes to be likely to use any unlawful force against a person present in a dwelling or a place of business, or when committed against a person whom one reasonably believes is attempting to use any unlawful force against a person present in a motor vehicle as defined in R.S. 32:1(40), while committing or attempting to commit a burglary or robbery of such dwelling, business, or motor vehicle.

(4)(a) When committed by a person lawfully inside a dwelling, a place of business, or a motor vehicle as defined in R.S. 32:1(40), against a person who is attempting to make an unlawful entry into the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle, or who has made an unlawful entry into the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle, and the person committing the homicide reasonably believes that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent the entry or to compel the intruder to leave the premises or motor vehicle.

(b) The provisions of this Paragraph shall not apply when the person committing the homicide is engaged, at the time of the homicide, in the acquisition of, the distribution of, or possession of, with intent to distribute a controlled dangerous substance in violation of the provisions of the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Law.

B. For the purposes of this Section, there shall be a presumption that a person lawfully inside a dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle held a reasonable belief that the use of deadly force was necessary to prevent unlawful entry thereto, or to compel an unlawful intruder to leave the premises or motor vehicle, if both of the following occur:

(1) The person against whom deadly force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering or had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle.

(2) The person who used deadly force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring or had occurred.

C. A person who is not engaged in unlawful activity and who is in a place where he or she has a right to be shall have no duty to retreat before using deadly force as provided for in this Section, and may stand his or her ground and meet force with force.

D. No finder of fact shall be permitted to consider the possibility of retreat as a factor in determining whether or not the person who used deadly force had a reasonable belief that deadly force was reasonable and apparently necessary to prevent a violent or forcible felony involving life or great bodily harm or to prevent the unlawful entry.

Added by Acts 1976, No. 655, §1. Amended by Acts 1977, No. 392, §1; Acts 1983, No. 234, §1; Acts 1993, No. 516, §1; Acts 1997, No. 1378, §1; Acts 2003, No. 660, §1; Acts 2006, No. 141, §1.

RS 14:22

§22. Defense of others

It is justifiable to use force or violence or to kill in the defense of another person when it is reasonably apparent that the person attacked could have justifiably used such means himself, and when it is reasonably believed that such intervention is necessary to protect the other person.

HB 1097 is the companion bill to HB 89 (also by Representative LaFleur), the NRA-supported “Castle Doctrine” bill which created presumptions in law for the use of force against intruders in your home, car or place of business and explicitly states in law that you have no “duty to retreat” from criminal attack if you are in a place where you have a legal right to be.

Hope those help. Laws here state that if you FEEL someone may harm you, your life, your property- or anyone else for that matter, or commit a felony, or go into a home, vehicle, or business they are not permitted to you can shoot to prevent it.

In a self defense situation, you do not have to be touched. You are permitted in these situations to meet force with force.

Your vehicle or business are considered to be an extension of your home, so anything allowed at your home are allowed in your car or business. If you come to a gun free zone, like a school, you can have your gun in your vehicle (But not take it out, but it can be in plain site), as it is an extension of your home and be within the law.

 

[Doktor_Jeep]

Boston sucks for many reasons.


Move.

 

[BillyDkid]

I go to Wal Mart, give them money, and then take a gun home.

Around here you have to fill out form saying you aren't a terrorist, a felon or a wife beater to get a long gun and then they call ATF to see if you're lying. Now, I'm wondering how many felons, terrorists and wife beaters mark down that they are those things.

 

[madengr]

Cash and carry here in KS too, and you keep the test brass that comes with your gun. Scored 7/100 with the Brady bunch.

 

[Toureg89]

aiight so i thought i'd share this since supposedly i live in one of the most liberal state's in the republic and i thought yall might like to kno about the hoops i gotta jump thru to get a gun

alright so i gotta [pay to] get a safety certificate from some certified instructor. i'm payin like $100 to get this shit

then, i gotta apply at the boston pd headquaters. i gotta bring:

1) a copy of my safety certificate (note: this is mailed out approximately four weeks after completing the safety training course)

2) a membership to a "local" shooting range (note these memberships run ~$200 / year, require a sponsor, another little bullshit safety training course, AND membership to the NRA aka national republican association, AND previous attendance at a few meetings).

3) a valid drivers license with your local address

4) further proof of residence in the form of two utility bills

5) a proof of residence certificate obtained at the city's election department (note: this requires a money order in the amount of $4 made out to the city, sotty no checks, no cash)

6) $100 (i don't know yet in what form) which is not refundable even if denied licensure (note: it takes approximately 40 days for the license to be approved after interview)

aint this some shit? even if you are approved i heard they restrict you to target shooting.

at this point i presumably will be able to buy guns and ammo with no hassle (mass-legal stuff of course, i.e., google massachusetts approved clip or mass approved glock)

fuck dude

no more tea parties goin down here

Florida:

1. find person selling firearm

2. purchase firearm

3. (manditory only if seller wishes it to be so) provide copy of ID/CC License)

bought my first glock with only a copy of my DL.

bought my AK with no form of ID

sold glock to friend, and bought a better one w/ no form of ID.

i have bought all my firearms private party, and will probably continue to do so.

in fact, im about to pick up a TRP Operator springy 1911 for 1.25K$ off someone from floridashootersnetwork.com within the week.

 

[Toureg89]

KY: cash and carry

There are no state laws about buying a gun, only compliance with federal.

same w/ Fl.

if you dont liek the gun regulations in your state, move to another state.

its unconstitutional, but the only way to get our rights back, without a person like Dr. RP in office, is through incrementalism, just like how those rights were taken away.

 

[rmodel65]

GA is easy fed form pay leave

 

[Johnnybags]

What is the process

Go to a New Hampshire Gun Show and buy whatever you want. They have no licensing for anything. Keep it stored there in a New Hampshire town. Then when you need it, its just and hour plus drive and its yours. You are then armed.

Massachusetts has taken on pre-Independence, Crown like authority it seems. Sort of like it regressed to pre-revolutionary history.

In NH at a gun show? Can you walk into one anonymously and just buy a pistol? Seems odd. License? Background check?