Work in Progress: Grassroots Final Notice Debt Burden to Taxpayers

[Jobarra]

American and European banks are believed the owners of the Fed, but the 300 or so individual shareholders is not and only speculation. The Fed has no government oversight and it's books are closed to auditors. Only insiders know what goes on at the Fed.

Profit? Really, the Fed doesn't even print paper anymore it is all electronic data entry. Money created out of thin air, backed by nothing (well backed by debt) used by our government, paid back by taxpayers (interest only)), sounds like a recipe for profit to me.

Again, I need credible sources or Ron Paul quotes. Preferrably both. This is about documented facts that I can include in this fact sheet. Anything else is just conjecture.

 

[Jobarra]

Bumpity Boppity Boo.

 

[Slist]

A bump for this great project

 

[Jobarra]

Bump.

Unfortunately, without at least a few other people helping find and document great quotes and stats to add to the fact sheet, this may take a little longer than expected or just come out really short. I really want something like this to hand out before this weekend, but it's not looking good. The ironic thing is there are so many speeches and examples of Ron Paul being against spending that it's a monumental task trying to truncate it all in a meaningful way. Oh well, got to go do some errands around town but I'll be back in a few hours to hopefully work on this again.

 

[RPinSEAZ]

Do we have an example yet so we can start printing these things out?

 

[Leslie Webb]

#2 post link to stare magazine
Nice statement of the numbers for the debt and future obligations, good summary of Ron's positions

Change :
1. 'our nations obligations' to 'our nation's obligations'
2. 'weaking dollar' to 'weakening dollar'

 

[dannno]

Ron Paul said that "The Fed is more secret than the CIA"

One of the other ways the Fed profits is that it is made up of "member banks". When they create cash, it is put out into the economy and a lot of it ends up back in bank accounts. With our required reserve ratio lending system, they can then lend that money back out at exorbitant interest rates, especially considering they are "members" of the "bank" that just "created" all this wealth from thin air.

"The Creature From Jeckyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin is a good resource, but then again you probably don't want to read an entire book just to write this thing.

Interesting idea.

 

[kisstheclowns]

somewhere to the tune of 60 trillion! People need to know this.

 

[Jobarra]

somewhere to the tune of 60 trillion! People need to know this.

Yeah, people keep saying that, but I'm seeing NO help in finishing the text. I can't include discussion in this fact sheet. I need cold hard facts/quotes with documented sources. I want people to be so incredulous that they go look up the sources and hopefully decide to look up Dr. Paul's consistent record of voting against this disasterous policy for years. That's when we have their vote. It's just taking so long to wade through all of the good stuff to find concise quotes to get Dr. Paul's point across. I'm still cringing at the huge speech excerpt I have up there right now from Dr. Paul, but it points out his thoughts on the Medicare Part D pretty concisely especially with David Walker talking about it being fiscally irresponsible.

I also need some good arguments against the 'electability' issue. One thought is that with the economy crashing, there is no other candidate with Dr. Paul's consistency in the entire election process. These don't need to be backed up by sources as much as just need to be persuasive arguments. I'm still kind of iffy if I'll bring up the electability issue though as once people start thinking about it their mind might go back to the media's smear tactics and shut their mind off.

#2 post link to stare magazine
Nice statement of the numbers for the debt and future obligations, good summary of Ron's positions

Change :
1. 'our nations obligations' to 'our nation's obligations'
2. 'weaking dollar' to 'weakening dollar'

Thanks. That's more along the lines of what I'm looking for. Critique of the layout itself is definitely welcome.

 

[Slist]

Ok, one think to absolutely avoid is the receiver to associate the shock of the bill with "Ron paul". He has to associate the shock to the current state and "Ron paul" with solution. Now, I don't know how to do that because I have no training in marketing and such, but i see this as vital.

 

[Jobarra]

Ok, one think to absolutely avoid is the receiver to associate the shock of the bill with "Ron paul". He has to associate the shock to the current state and "Ron paul" with solution. Now, I don't know how to do that because I have no training in marketing and such, but i see this as vital.

I agree. Spoke with several people and they said they would NOT vote for a candidate if they got something that looked like an official bill. I've given up on that idea, thus only 2 'shock' headlines. I'm going to further soften the 'shock' value by adding a '?' after 'FINAL NOTICE'. I think that should key them into it not being a real bill. Plus, how many bills have a large amount of text in them

I was planning to transition from Mr. Walker's comments into Ron Paul's solutions, but it's alot harder than it looks . I'm trying to not put too much information on the page, but it's just hard to trim the information down to 'soundbytes'. I can see the problem that Dr. Paul has relating all of this in debates and even interviews

 

[Crickett]

I really liked the idea. ANYTHING that gets someone to read the thing is great. You could add a comment at the top THIS IS NOT A BILL (But it could be..) Or WOULD YOU LIKE TO RECEIVE THIS? Something like that. I think it is a great idea and more people woiuld read it than a regular piece.

 

[Jobarra]

Yeah, the slim jims are nice, but they don't have much substance to them. I want to grab someone's attention so that they take the time to research Dr. Paul's positions.

 

[Slist]

No one came up with a graphic design yet? A lot of people worked on that as far as I can remember. Btw I am sure that there are MANY associations worried about national debt...they would gladly sponsor such an action.

 

[Knightskye]

I like it, but aren't we sinking to Giuliani's level by scaring the public into voting for Ron Paul?

 

[ronpaul4pres]

I thought the national debt was $9 trillion dollars?

The population of the US is 300 million people. If you divide these two numbers then you come out with $30,000 per person NOT $400,000.

You may assume that the average household holds 4 people. So the bill could be for $120,000 unless I am missing something here.....

You're right, but I put it this way: every child born in the USA today is enslaved to a $30,000 debt that continues to grow.

 

[ST0PandL00K]

great idea!

 

[tomveil]

I love this idea, but I'd suggest the following:

Don't make it look TOO much like a bill. We want to give people facts, not make them crap their pants.

Only use real numbers in terms of the debt. Add entitlements later down the page. "Your family of 4 owes 120,000" is just as staggering.

Add in costs per person for the Iraq War. People FREAK THE HELL OUT when I tell them how much they've "spent" on the war.

Keep it up

 

[Jobarra]

No one came up with a graphic design yet? A lot of people worked on that as far as I can remember. Btw I am sure that there are MANY associations worried about national debt...they would gladly sponsor such an action.

One person is working on a graphic design for it as far as I know. Someone else did a bill type document, but I think a bill 'trick' would push people AGAINST Paul.

I like it, but aren't we sinking to Giuliani's level by scaring the public into voting for Ron Paul?

We're giving them a legitimate concern. They better be concerned about this as this is a real threat. Unlike Giuliani, Ron Paul actually has a record of trying to fix this. It is kind of funny though. Someone should make a video with Rudy saying 9/11 alot and then mix it with Ron Paul saying monetary/economic policy alot

 

[rpfan2008]

the bills are ready