Women's vote not going to Dr. Paul

It's because women are more trusting of what they hear in MSM. That's jmho as a woman. I can also say that I'm on several mommy boards and RP has gotten a nice following on each one. We have lots of discussions and even more lurkers. ;)
 
Politeia said:
Well, that's just the problem. No one who isn't a "feminist" can figure out what a "feminist" is. As Jim Kalb put it:



Be nice if all you "feminists" would get together and sort it out and come up with a single definition that the rest of us can work with.

Meanwhile, I prefer to do what I can to further the welfare of all humans, in fact all beings, rather than promoting conflict between different groups.
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Why the hostility? I, personally am for equal rights for all people (with some exceptions*), are there some feminists who aren't? Of course! Are there some males who aren't, of course! Why waste time defining a person, when there really is no one true definition?

*I wouldn't want a mentally retarded person doing much other than getting me fries or other simple tasks. I also believe that there are some jobs where physical strength is important and thus, the majority of positions go to males. There are also some jobs that are stereotypically female and thus, there are more females in those positions. What I don't agree with is placing more value on stereotypically male positions.
 
-- I SWEAR I'm not a male chauvinist! --

Now Ayn Rand and other great capitalists aside,

Men are paid to reason, think, design and build.
Women make the children do their chores or organize files for their boss.

Sad but true.

Men go on the Internet for wikipedia.
Women go on the Internet for facebook.

Sad but true.

Men are taught at a young age to stand up for themselves: "punch that bully square in the nose."
Women are taught to spread rumors about the girl that iced them off.

Sad but true.

Boys play with Lego, Civilization 4, Sim City, etc...
Girls play with barbie, easy bake ovens, The Sims, etc...

Most of the smart girls I've come across were "tom boys" when they were younger or had allot of brothers or male friends. The culture around raising female children needs a complete overhaul.

Liberty is tied to reason, not feeling. Girls should be taught from a young age to respond to challenges by finding logical solutions, not by using feelings and relationships.
 
This is a good question. Whatever the reason, it is really too bad that more women are not interested in freedom.
 
UziSprayTF said:
-- I SWEAR I'm not a male chauvinist! --

Now Ayn Rand and other great capitalists aside,

Men are paid to reason, think, design and build.
Women make the children do their chores or organize files for their boss.

Sad but true.

Men go on the Internet for wikipedia.
Women go on the Internet for facebook.

Sad but true.

Men are taught at a young age to stand up for themselves: "punch that bully square in the nose."
Women are taught to spread rumors about the girl that iced them off.

Sad but true.

Boys play with Lego, Civilization 4, Sim City, etc...
Girls play with barbie, easy bake ovens, The Sims, etc...

Most of the smart girls I've come across were "tom boys" when they were younger or had allot of brothers or male friends. The culture around raising female children needs a complete overhaul.

Liberty is tied to reason, not feeling. Girls should be taught from a young age to respond to challenges by finding logical solutions, not by using feelings and relationships.
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I was a tomboy. I'm sure there are several tom boys here. We shouldn't make all women here feel bad for other women's choices.

From an early age, I've had my own interests and let such social upbringings of what I was supposed to be for being female go one ear out the other.

I continue to do so and actually as a result, guys will pick at you for that reason alone because they were taught that women are just exactly as you described.

Also, we can also use this same arguement to put down other targetted groups but this is all being very counter productive and making it a white man's club only.

I'm telling you from experience how such behavior usually results in people who want to be apart of the team feel that since they don't belong and putting down certain types of people aren't allowed, it results in those people feeling like they have no place here.

So if more females were converted, they would come here and think, WOW, maybe my other female friends were right and Ron Paul is not the right choice for females.

I'm telling you, it's counter productive to sit here and bash women. I also remember a thread a while back about "Why don't we have black supporters" and some of the messages in that thread were white men speaking for blacks and using some really lame stereotypes and also saying some really bad things about black people.

If I were black and looked at that, I wouldn't want to stick around.

We have alot of different types of supporters. It's wrong to allow people's own prejudisms to further exclude others.

Our candidate of choice is going through exclusion. There's alot of complaining about that so isn't it a little hypocritical to turn around and treat others like they are not welcomed here which is exactly what is being done when women are treated as though they should not speak their mind. I speak my mind. You may not like it but that is what being an independant thinker is about.

Also a friendly reminder that Dr. Paul himself is against group thinkers.

There is a difference between grouping up for a campaign and a group thinker mentality.

Group thinker mentalities are exclusive and often bigoted and prejudice.

You want to listen to stereotypes, that is fine and dandy but the truth of the matter is, it's not going to help Ron Paul get elected if it's used in a derrogatory manner which excludes more Ron Paul supporters.

I am through with this subject. For now on like I already said, anyone wants to show they have a group thinker mentality will be put on ignore.

I am an individual. I am also on your team and so are the ladies here. You want respect, I will treat you with respect but not if you are going to run around on a messageboard like a chicken with your head cut off to promote bigotry and exclusive group thinking mentality.

I belong here. The ladies belong here. All races belong here. All human beings belong here.

If I don't ignore people like that, I'll end up leaving the board because it's crossing agendas and counter productive.

Thanks.
 
UziSprayTF said:
-- I SWEAR I'm not a male chauvinist! --

Now Ayn Rand and other great capitalists aside,

Men are paid to reason, think, design and build.
Women make the children do their chores or organize files for their boss.

Sad but true.

Men go on the Internet for wikipedia.
Women go on the Internet for facebook.

Sad but true.

Men are taught at a young age to stand up for themselves: "punch that bully square in the nose."
Women are taught to spread rumors about the girl that iced them off.

Sad but true.

Boys play with Lego, Civilization 4, Sim City, etc...
Girls play with barbie, easy bake ovens, The Sims, etc...

Most of the smart girls I've come across were "tom boys" when they were younger or had allot of brothers or male friends. The culture around raising female children needs a complete overhaul.

Liberty is tied to reason, not feeling. Girls should be taught from a young age to respond to challenges by finding logical solutions, not by using feelings and relationships.
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So, seriously, I am an exception because I've never once been on facebook, only rarely on myspace and am constantly on Wikipedia?

I agree completely that the culture around raising female children needs a complete overhaul, I've seen it in action with nieces who are raised to be overly concerned about their looks. Women were the worst offenders and men never understood what I was talking about! I won't be so bold as to assume that you think I'm "smart" but yeah, I was, and still am a tomboy. Believe me, it makes life harder for the most part, except when my car breaks down ;) But I'm still emotional when it comes to relationships, and I don't think that's such a bad thing until the relationship goes awry. The fact that women will psychologically damage each other rather than physically damage for an alleged affront is really much more harmful, in my opinion.

It's a side battle to this one. One that can't be easily solved through a group like this, with the exception of planting an idea. It's never made sense to me that anyone would want the approximately 50% of the population that's raising the children to be weak, uneducated and powerless.
 
Bloody Holly said:
I was a tomboy. I'm sure there are several tom boys here. We shouldn't make all women here feel bad for other women's choices.

From an early age, I've had my own interests and let such social upbringings of what I was supposed to be for being female go one ear out the other.

I continue to do so and actually as a result, guys will pick at you for that reason alone because they were taught that women are just exactly as you described.

Also, we can also use this same arguement to put down other targetted groups but this is all being very counter productive and making it a white man's club only.

I'm telling you from experience how such behavior usually results in people who want to be apart of the team feel that since they don't belong and putting down certain types of people aren't allowed, it results in those people feeling like they have no place here.

So if more females were converted, they would come here and think, WOW, maybe my other female friends were right and Ron Paul is not the right choice for females.

I'm telling you, it's counter productive to sit here and bash women. I also remember a thread a while back about "Why don't we have black supporters" and some of the messages in that thread were white men speaking for blacks and using some really lame stereotypes and also saying some really bad things about black people.

If I were black and looked at that, I wouldn't want to stick around.

We have alot of different types of supporters. It's wrong to allow people's own prejudisms to further exclude others.

Our candidate of choice is going through exclusion. There's alot of complaining about that so isn't it a little hypocritical to turn around and treat others like they are not welcomed here which is exactly what is being done when women are treated as though they should not speak their mind. I speak my mind. You may not like it but that is what being an independant thinker is about.

Also a friendly reminder that Dr. Paul himself is against group thinkers.

There is a difference between grouping up for a campaign and a group thinker mentality.

Group thinker mentalities are exclusive and often bigoted and prejudice.

You want to listen to stereotypes, that is fine and dandy but the truth of the matter is, it's not going to help Ron Paul get elected if it's used in a derrogatory manner which excludes more Ron Paul supporters.

I am through with this subject. For now on like I already said, anyone wants to show they have a group thinker mentality will be put on ignore.

I am an individual. I am also on your team and so are the ladies here. You want respect, I will treat you with respect but not if you are going to run around on a messageboard like a chicken with your head cut off to promote bigotry and exclusive group thinking mentality.

I belong here. The ladies belong here. All races belong here. All human beings belong here.

If I don't ignore people like that, I'll end up leaving the board because it's crossing agendas and counter productive.

Thanks.
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Very, very well said. I laud you, you came at this from a completely different direction than me and were very eloquent about it.
 
I would have thought that because Ron Paul is an OB-GYN doctor
that most woman would relate to him better than the rest of the candidates? :confused:
 
I know eharmony sucks they only accept people above 21....

meh it was only created to create more marriages.

I personally worship women and am a male Feminist so the more women we get the more I love our campaign :D
 
webber53 said:
I would have thought that because Ron Paul is an OB-GYN doctor
that most woman would relate to him better than the rest of the candidates? :confused:
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As you've probably noticed, the candidate and his followers are very, very different. Ron Paul himself is not a misogynist. Some of his followers--ohhhh yeah. He's also not many other things that his followers are, that's the beauty of freedom and the worst quality of it.

Freedom certainly doesn't mean that we all agree, it means that we are allowed to disagree.
 
One thing I've notived many times when women are bashed (like in this forum, face it, it happens constantly).. Women then take this "tomboy" role and try to make sure they really think like the guys do and they have nothing to do with feminim or female emotions. It's like they try to harden themselves so they fit, cause as females all they get is shit.

I'm a woman. It's just something I see a lot.
 
Finn said:
One thing I've notived many times when women are bashed (like in this forum, face it, it happens constantly).. Women then take this "tomboy" role and try to make sure they really think like the guys do and they have nothing to do with feminim or female emotions. It's like they try to harden themselves so they fit, cause as females all they get is shit.

I'm a woman. It's just something I see a lot.
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Interesting. I've said time and time again though, that when it comes to relationships and children, I'm a stereotypical female who is far more emotional than practical. I don't think this is such a bad thing.

But yeah, all the bashing can push a person to harden themselves. I've always been a tomboy though and couldn't be anything else.
 
electronicmaji said:
Hey I'm not manlike at all. I'm straight and effeminate and proud ;)
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Ditto. And I think, I research a lot, I love learning. Just like anyone else out there it's a matter of getting the message to women. I think *my* biggest concern- as a woman and a MOM- is the burden we are leaving our children if RP does not win. We are setting them up for a welfare state.
 
electronicmaji said:
Hey I'm not manlike at all. I'm straight and effeminate and proud ;)
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Great! I don't really consider myself manlike either, with the exception that I have a degree in a male-dominated field, work on cars and like to watch the History channel.

And I'm completely and utterly straight. I just like to know how things work, whether it be politics, cars, science or anything.
 
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