Women's vote not going to Dr. Paul

[The Idea Man]

My Mom

I swear I had this conversation with my mother:


Mom: Women shouldn't vote. All my female friends are so stupid. They loved Bill Clinton just because they thought he was cute.

Me: So who do you like in this race?

Mom: I like Mitt Romney.

Me: Really?! Why? What about him do you like?

Mom (in all seriousness): Oh, I don't know. He just looks presidential.


*sigh*

 

[VoluntaryMan]

I swear I had this conversation with my mother:


Mom: Women shouldn't vote. All my female friends are so stupid. They loved Bill Clinton just because they thought he was cute.

Me: So who do you like in this race?

Mom: I like Mitt Romney.

Me: Really?! Why? What about him do you like?

Mom (in all seriousness): Oh, I don't know. He just looks presidential.


*sigh*

I agree with your mother: she shouldn't vote.

 

[AceNZ]

I agree that we're not reaching as many women voters as we should.

How to fix it? I suggest running lots of small ads in local newspapers. The ads should touch on issues that are important to women, and should try to avoid controversial or divisive issues. Perhaps things like:

-- Education (not allowing the Federal government to dictate how and what your kids are taught)
-- Environment (strict enforcement of property rights can solve many environmental problems)
-- Reduce inflation (a hidden tax on the middle class and the poor)
-- Health care (make all medical expenses tax deductible, allow nurses to perform basic medical functions)
-- Abolish taxes on tip income
-- Racism (the true antidote to racism is liberty)

In some locations, it might be worth mentioning that Ron Paul is a former OB/GYN -- although I think I would leave out the potentially divisive abortion issue in most places. Most women I know really like their OB/GYNs; that background could provide an air of trust. The same is true for his history in the military and in congress.

 

[Bloody Holly]

I am a female and supporting Ron Paul.

From what I've seen, alot of women that don't want women to be viewed of as sexual objects might be put off by general attitudes. I'm sure that isn't what you want to hear but it's true. Those women will want to either support Ron Paul alone or just walk out all together.

Women have this problem all throughout their lives. I don't expect males to get this as they often shrug and tell women they are just overreacting instead of addressing the problem.

Also, women that watched the view and the subject of abortion was brought up, may have viewed that and snarled. However, Ron Paul is a OB/GYN. Use that. He actually has no problems with women, he just cares about life.

Sometimes when something feels too much like a boys club it will disenfranchise women just like if it felt too much like an all white club it would disenfranchise blacks.

The problem is, on this board in general, most of the time when I've seen the word woman involved it was to use her as an object for the campaign which can be thought of as belittling to the more intelligent female crowd.

This is a community on this board. We should make it feel like one. Also, women love to be included and treated as contributors and equals rather than told what to do, barked at and treated like objects.

Men do not like to hear that and react harshly as if it's tough criticism but if there is no compromise, it's going to push alot of females out. Women have more to contribute than just their bodies and looks.

When you keep pushing for females to use their looks to attract attention, that sends a message that male votes matter more because you are using the female to attract male voters.

Women do vote. Women do donate. Women do spread the word. Women do come up with ideas.

I asked Ron Paul on myspace in the summer of 2007 for a donation ticker. He wrote back and said, we'll work on that!

 

[SleepingNative]

I don't want to approach my reply to this thread by treating anyone as a member of a group, but since that's kinda hard in this case, I'll instead just change the group-centric thread for myself into one pertaining to most Democrats.

Most lefties hold a strong soft spot for the environment.

We just launched (yesterday) a grassroots project for Dr. Paul which is specifically designed to convert enormous numbers from the otherwise heavily guarded territory of the "still-wistful-for-Gore" Left (of which I used to count myself as one). There are a lot of talking points, after the spiel about the project itself, which folks can use in their own efforts as well; particularly in regards to overcoming the objections many people on the left still have in regards to Dr. Paul's stance on the environment, but also in regards to women's right to choose.

If folks think those talking points will prove useful for themselves, we're asking them to consider helping us make the same message to the entire country, but there's a little reading to do, so I want to encourage folks to just enjoy the thoughts expressed regardless! =)

It's a totally new kind of hybrid media-driven event, for which we've partnered with numerous talents, including Adam Franklin (aka frankdogg), James Gucciardo, and even Depeche Mode has granted us the free use of an incredibly spine-tingling track for our music (valued at $30,000.00 per airing!)!

Thanks to our additional partnership with Yahoo!, via the Give2Network, folks don't even have to spend a dime to actually help us make this project a reality either; thanks to a snazzy little charity searchbar they gave us (if they can't otherwise spare the ten bucks we're actually asking for to make it all happen.).

Please check us out at http://sleepingnatives.org. There's a little reading involved, but not much. If you read the entire site you'll understand how stupendously effective this project could really be for Dr. Paul's campaign. We feel people are forgetting about the gigantic pool of Ron Paul sympathizers from the left who voted for Gore in 2000, but who don't yet understand how Dr. Paul's stance could actually help the environment better than even Gore's! Just imagine the flood of support that would ensue if they got that message loud and clear!

Please help us and spread the word if you like what you see! =)


Yours in Peace,
Philip de Souza
[email protected]

 

[sunghoko]

I blame this on Oprah

 

[Cali4RonPaul]

We need Sarah Palin !!!

 

[DjLoTi]

The best reply I can give is the example that I saw at a debate. I asked a lady why she supported Rudy Giuliani, and she said "because he makes me feel safe"

 

[stefans]

I swear I had this conversation with my mother:


Mom: Women shouldn't vote. All my female friends are so stupid. They loved Bill Clinton just because they thought he was cute.

Me: So who do you like in this race?

Mom: I like Mitt Romney.

Me: Really?! Why? What about him do you like?

Mom (in all seriousness): Oh, I don't know. He just looks presidential.


*sigh*

think about the conversations that'd go on among men if there were 10 very different women running for president.
it wouldn't stop at "she looks presidential"

 

[txgirl]

Well, that's does not appear to be the case here in Texas..

I haven't seen any material that suggest this... link please

 

[Richandler]

Woman throughout history are traditionally theives for humanitarian effort. They don't think that being alone is a big deal.

 

[Bloody Holly]

Woman throughout history are traditionally theives for humanitarian effort. They don't think that being alone is a big deal.

Male perspective. How do you know that women haven't been pushed out of group efforts? I know I have several times and not related to Ron Paul but alot of instances in my life where I had to walk alone.

 

[txgirl]

Male perspective. How do you know that women haven't been pushed out of group efforts? I know I have several times and not related to Ron Paul but alot of instances in my life where I had to walk alone.

I agree... and ever since I was a little girl, I've been told, "It's a man's world."

 

[nbhadja]

Where is your source for this? I'm not finding that to be the case.

There are a million sources out there lol. Most of RP's support comes from men.

 

[Richandler]

Male perspective. How do you know that women haven't been pushed out of group efforts? I know I have several times and not related to Ron Paul but alot of instances in my life where I had to walk alone.

General observations don't pertain to everyone. I'm a big fan of independent women. I'm not however a big fan of collectivest feminist women. The latter group is the growing one. Eventually I hope the former will thrive.

 

[Bloody Holly]

I agree... and ever since I was a little girl, I've been told, "It's a man's world."

Well txgirl. No matter if Ron Paul's campaign is viewed of as a male's world, you are welcome.

I'm not a catty bitch either so welcome

 

[nbhadja]

My meetup has just as many women as men. I see just as many women with signs as men. Look at all the Utube clips.....just as many women.....I don't buy this crap for one second!

Overall meetup members are overwhelmingly men.
The Iowa results (along with every poll out there) had men making up most of his support.
Women need to get on the ball!

 

[Bloody Holly]

General observations don't pertain to everyone. I'm a big fan of independent women. I'm not however a big fan of collectivest feminist women. The latter group is the growing one. Eventually I hope the former will thrive.

I am not a big fan of feminazi's. I am a big fan of feminists that stick to the foundation like the right to vote. I am not a big fan of males who call all women who stand up for their rights as feminazi's.

That's a form of bullying in my opinion and I used to beat up bullies in school. It was fun too.

 

[Bloody Holly]

Overall meetup members are overwhelmingly men.
The Iowa results (along with every poll out there) had men making up most of his support.
Women need to get on the ball!

We need more women to do that

 

[Richandler]

I am not a big fan of feminazi's. I am a big fan of feminists that stick to the foundation like the right to vote. I am not a big fan of males who call all women who stand up for their rights as feminazi's.

That's a form of bullying in my opinion and I used to beat up bullies in school. It was fun too.

Ok.... That's wonderful. Women have the right to vote. As far as I'm concerted the 19th Amendment is even necessary. Women should naturally have the right to vote as individuals as much as anyone.