Women wanted!!! and a few good men...

[Working Poor]

Bumping to be able to keep track of this thread while I think about what I want to write. Thanks....

 

[angelatc]

As far as I know, the only pictures of me on the internet are 30 years old, and I didn't upload them - someone else did. (Damned Facebook!) I wouldn't mind finding a new place to hang out, since this place is bugging me a lot lately, but I don't want to put a picture up.

 

[Mckarnin]

As far as I know, the only pictures of me on the internet are 30 years old, and I didn't upload them - someone else did. (Damned Facebook!) I wouldn't mind finding a new place to hang out, since this place is bugging me a lot lately, but I don't want to put a picture up.

You don't have to put a picture up to participate in the forum or on the website. Right now we are creating the website. We're just soliciting the profiles with pics as something that women visiting the site can look at to see the faces of other women who support Ron Paul and learn a little bit about where they are coming from. If all goes well those profiles will only represent a very small percentage of total female site users.

 

[cheapseats]

Yes, for now the focus is Ron Paul but if this really catches on we are fully prepared to transition it to more of a general website where women can explore the issues with an eye towards individual liberty and sound money.

Terrific, I mean that.

BUT that is future. SCALABILITY is good. Someone who works for hourly wages can never earn more than there are hours in a day. Jumping subjects...mea culpa.

An "eye on the future" does not MUDDY THE ADVERTISING WATERS on the particular SALE that is, in point of fact, connoted by persuading someone to vote for your candidate.

Do you AGREE or DISAGREE that pitching CANDIDATES is more about SALES than EDUCATION?

The dream thing is just one aspect of the site. More practical information will be available. The hopes/dreams of real women are needed because most of what Ron Paul is advocating has not been the case in living history so there is no strong oral tradition or memory of things being that way. While RP is a wonderful guy he does a bad job of helping women who are new to his ideas imagine "a world with President Ron Paul". So, we're filling the void.

"[T]here is no strong oral tradition or memory of things being that way" for MEN, either. Or for SENIORS.

NO ONE on this Board has oftener than I pointed out the NEED to win over women, or lose. I most certainly do NOT object to separate-but-equal appeal to Women Voters. I DO suggest a BLIND SPOT in constantly framing Ron Paul in a way that resonates with women who ALREADY support him or who are are MOST likely to line up dutifully behind WHICHEVER Republican.

The idea that WOMEN will sooner/quicker than big, strong men embrace SCARY SCARY CONCEPTS like Autonomy & Reponsibility because they can fearlessly envision SKY'S THE LIMIT possibilities...well, don't bank on it.

Where does Ron Paul stand on MOUNTING violence against women, other than to say he doesn't approve of it?

Is ARMING & TRAINING the only shot Single Women have at being SAFE ON AMERICAN STREETS AFTER DARK?

 

[Mckarnin]

Terrific, I mean that.

BUT that is future. SCALABILITY is good. Someone who works for hourly wages can never earn more than there are hours in a day. Jumping subjects...mea culpa.

An "eye on the future" does not MUDDY THE ADVERTISING WATERS on the particular SALE that is, in point of fact, connoted by persuading someone to vote for your candidate.

Do you AGREE or DISAGREE that pitching CANDIDATES is more about SALES than EDUCATION?






"[T]here is no strong oral tradition or memory of things being that way" for MEN, either. Or for SENIORS.

NO ONE on this Board has oftener than I pointed out the NEED to win over women, or lose. I most certainly do NOT object to separate-but-equal appeal to Women Voters. I DO suggest a BLIND SPOT in constantly framing Ron Paul in a way that resonates with women who ALREADY support him or who are are MOST likely to line up dutifully behind WHICHEVER Republican.

The idea that WOMEN will sooner/quicker than big, strong men embrace SCARY SCARY CONCEPTS like Autonomy & Reponsibility because they can fearlessly envision SKY'S THE LIMIT possibilities...well, don't bank on it.

Where does Ron Paul stand on MOUNTING violence against women, other than to say he doesn't approve of it?

Is ARMING & TRAINING the only shot Single Women have at being SAFE ON AMERICAN STREETS AFTER DARK?

We have a team of women working on this and between us we have hundreds of female friends and acquaintances. We will certainly be willing to tweak if some of our content ends up being less effective than we anticipate. At this point we are looking for content submissions from women and feedback from women. If the kind of stuff the men here talk about all day (or their ideas about appealing to female voters) were super effective we wouldn't need to make a new site.

 

[ds21089]

You would think selling Ron Paul to women would be easy... "Do you love your children? Do you care about their future? Ron Paul is the only one running whom wont let this intense debt be passed onto your children to bare throughout their lives. He is the only candidate serious about cutting the deficit we this doesn't happen"

"Moms are much better at teaching their children than these government-run schools. Ron Paul supports homeschooling and encourages people to do so. Other candidates want to increase government's involvement in schools and dictate everything they learn, whether you agree with the content or not"

"Financial strains causing a burden on your marriage / family life?" Ron Paul is the only one working to reduce your taxes and will work toward completely eliminating the income tax.

"Dont trust these politicians to do what they say?" "Ron Paul has a consistent record of always voting for the people. He's never disobeyed his oath of office, nor his marriage of 55 years." Others have flip-flopped every chance they get to appeal to the specific people they are talking to for votes, and some have even cheated on their wives.


I mean...shit... what else is needed?

 

[eleganz]

I wouldn't mind finding a new place to hang out, since this place is bugging me a lot lately

why?

 

[Mckarnin]

For most women there is an intricate network of connections between what we are thinking about, worried about, trying to remember, need to do, the people we love and prioritizing and dealing with all of these is a real juggling game. Questions lead to questions and more questions which then remind us of a related issue that plays into our initial question but is different from it. We need to get into the subject, explore the avenues that present themselves and satisfy ourselves that we are comfortable not only with statements that are being made but also how they would play out if they are implemented.

Far from being the emotional simpletons that some of you gents like to portray us as we are constantly trying to reconcile the big picture with the little picture and understand how it will effect others as well as ourselves. That's a complicated process and a few one or two line factual statements are not going to convert many women fast although they may provide a springboard to begin a thought process.

Decided to add a brief paragraph to answer the inevitable: "well, none of this thought seems to come into play with the other guys who are running". We are the ones advocating for something radically different, we are the ones making major change and upheaval alarm bells go off in women's minds. If women don't understand how dire our current situation really is (which honestly, most Americans don't) they are going to need a very good reason to engage with someone so different who is also portrayed as "unelectable". To grasp Ron Paul's ideas, especially as they are presented by him and most sites, requires a big initial outlay of time. We're trying to make the initial outlay low with a high reward (understanding) to time ratio.

 

[wistfulthinker]

For most women there is an intricate network of connections between what we are thinking about, worried about, trying to remember, need to do, the people we love and prioritizing and dealing with all of these is a real juggling game. Questions lead to questions and more questions which then remind us of a related issue that plays into our initial question but is different from it. We need to get into the subject, explore the avenues that present themselves and satisfy ourselves that we are comfortable not only with statements that are being made but also how they would play out if they are implemented.

Far from being the emotional simpletons that some of you gents like to portray us as we are constantly trying to reconcile the big picture with the little picture and understand how it will effect others as well as ourselves. That's a complicated process and a few one or two line factual statements are not going to convert many women fast although they may provide a springboard to begin a thought process.

Decided to add a brief paragraph to answer the inevitable: "well, none of this thought seems to come into play with the other guys who are running". We are the ones advocating for something radically different, we are the ones making major change and upheaval alarm bells go off in women's minds. If women don't understand how dire our current situation really is (which honestly, most Americans don't) they are going to need a very good reason to engage with someone so different who is also portrayed as "unelectable". To grasp Ron Paul's ideas, especially as they are presented by him and most sites, requires a big initial outlay of time. We're trying to make the initial outlay low with a high reward (understanding) to time ratio.

Nicely put.

 

[PolicyReader]

Would you be interested in me contacting the site admin at CVRP to see about adding a link to your site to the "friends" section over there? Do you have a clickable banner that might be included (not required but I figured if you do have one might as well use it ).
In my humble opinion I think this is a great idea, as I see it one of the values of liberty is eclectic voices speaking together on a subject(s).
This is a resource I look forward to having available for use.

Cheers

 

[Mckarnin]

Would you be interested in me contacting the site admin at CVRP to see about adding a link to your site to the "friends" section over there? Do you have a clickable banner that might be included (not required but I figured if you do have one might as well use it ).
In my humble opinion I think this is a great idea, as I see it one of the values of liberty is eclectic voices speaking together on a subject(s).
This is a resource I look forward to having available for use.

Cheers

Sorry for being a dope but CVRP is not ringing a bell. That said yes! We will take publicity wherever women are likely to be on the net Ron Paul supporters or not. We are still getting things set up so no public links yet but there will be banners when we launch. Thank you.

Haha, I just read your signature. Ok, so you don't have to remind me what CVRP is.

 

[PolicyReader]

Sorry for being a dope but CVRP is not ringing a bell. That said yes! We will take publicity wherever women are likely to be on the net Ron Paul supporters or not. We are still getting things set up so no public links yet but there will be banners when we launch. Thank you.

No worries CVRP is not well known yet outside of certain circles (for more info check my sig )
I don't have any site metrics regarding traffic but I figure the more exposure the better for a new launch and the site is plugged into some networks etc so I'm sure it'll help spread the word. Just toss me a PM whenever you have links you'd like to go live, I'll arrange from there.

 

[pinkmandy]

Nicely put.

Ita.

 

[wistfulthinker]

No worries CVRP is not well known yet outside of certain circles (for more info check my sig )
I don't have any site metrics regarding traffic but I figure the more exposure the better for a new launch and the site is plugged into some networks etc so I'm sure it'll help spread the word. Just toss me a PM whenever you have links you'd like to go live, I'll arrange from there.

Policy, we'd love to have a few women in uniform speaking on the site. Any chance you could pass the message along to your group? And thanks for the reminder that we need a banner design to help spread the word.

 

[PursuePeace]

I'm definitely going to participate

Me too. This is a great idea.

 

[j3nn]

Awesome! I sent you an email

 

[Paul Or Nothing II]

Have you tried "ronpaulgirls" on youtube? There are a fair number of other female Paul-supporters on youtube it seems & mostly young (contrary to the belief that younger women won't support him because of abortion & other "women's rights" issues)

 

[emazur]

You might want to try contacting the Independent Women's Forum:
http://www.iwf.org/
Judge Nap would have their people on as guests and their positions seem pretty libertarian friendly. Here's an article called Ron Paul, Legislative Hero

 

[Birdlady]

I may try to put something together for you.

 

[Mckarnin]

Have you tried "ronpaulgirls" on youtube? There are a fair number of other female Paul-supporters on youtube it seems & mostly young (contrary to the belief that younger women won't support him because of abortion & other "women's rights" issues)

Good idea.