With Huck out, whos coming in?

Palin...don't think so.


Daniels...probably.


Bachman...probably.


Christie...don't think so.


Newt...not going too far.


Trump...is dead.


Karger...too gay.


Romney....too liberal.


Cain...won't go far.


Pawlenty...I don't think he can win.


Sanitorium...he's done.


Gary Johnson...please run for Senate.



My guess is that the Republican primary voters in 2012 are generally looking for someone in the Teaocon mold...like a Bachmann or a Palin or maybe a fresh face like Daniels.


This is the outsider's year. It is our challenge to nudge these teaocons in the direction of true liberty. It CAN be done. But it is going to be difficult.

My thinking right now is that Ron will run and pave the way for a whole new breed of Republican...and will help carry Rand to the White House in 2016. I WANT to win, but even if we don't, we will come out victorious anyway.
 
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Pawlenty will be a player, as I've said all along. Look up his "Freedom First PAC" and you'll see that he donated heavily to state legislature candidates in Iowa and New Hampshire during the 2010 election cycle. Those people (and the state GOPs) will owe him one.
 
Pawlenty is a sleeper Matt, he is lurking in the background and Fox will support him and Cain.

Do not underestimate Herman Cain. He will appeal to Iowans. How can we stop him? Is he raising big bucks
 
malkusm said:
Pawlenty will be a player, as I've said all along. Look up his "Freedom First PAC" and you'll see that he donated heavily to state legislature candidates in Iowa and New Hampshire during the 2010 election cycle. Those people (and the state GOPs) will owe him one.
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Pawlenty might be a default guy. Since the big names are choosing to stay out for whatever reason, Pawlenty might have a frontrunner future ahead of him by default.
 
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guaranteed they will add a "reluctant" candidate.....and garner support by saying we need a "new" face. I think they are going to add a newcomer.

BTW....I want Ron to announce his VP running mate ASAP!
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the elites wants Daniels or Christie.

VP would help, but Libertarian GOP bench not deep. Jenny Sanford?
 
Watch out. Huck is an insider and it is highly likely that he knew that he had no chance because the elites were not going to give him his turn this time. Huck is a power hungry madman right? Doesn't make sense that he wouldn't run this time. They may have their chosen fall guy for Obama or perhaps another "maverick" they will create, like they did with McCain. Just being realistic here.
 
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Huck is an insider and it is highly likely that he knew that he had no chance because the elites were not going to give him his turn this time.
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He isn't running because some of the criminals he pardoned killed after they were freed. One ad was going to finish his campaign.
 
low preference guy said:
He isn't running because some of the criminals he pardoned killed after they were freed. One ad was going to finish his campaign.
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I think he saw the writing on the wall that he couldn't win outside of Bama/Miss/LA etc.

I'm really hoping a guy like Schiff would run or at least a don t to split the mitt romney vote
 
No chance Christie is coming in for 2012... That's a promise and a guarantee.

Something is up - too much looking "favorable" for RP and liberty.... Not sure what it is yet but so long as everyone continues to work hard for the campaign; we can do some major damage this year with educating more people and winning some primaries.
 
I think with Huck out things get a lot more interesting. What I've hoped for is to see the Establishment not be able to heard the cats so much around someone annointed. The clock is ticking and they are gonna hafta make their minds up pretty quick. Newt would be the best to do that I think but he is way damaged goods. I think Daniels is in, but the Social Cons won't go for him and he won't for them. I think this sets up (ironically) pretty good for us in SC and IA. I don't think Cain will be able to raise the sawbucks for the long haul. TPaw just won't exite enough people and really has had a hard time raising money. Romney is still the big boy on the block and I suspect the Establishment will line up behind him. The best situation we could hope for at this point is here for us.
 
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I think with Huck out things get a lot more interesting. What I've hoped for is to see the Establishment not be able to heard the cats so much around someone annointed. The clock is ticking and they are gonna hafta make their minds up pretty quick. Newt would be the best to do that I think but he is way damaged goods. I think Daniels is in, but the Social Cons won't go for him and he won't for them. I think this sets up (ironically) pretty good for us in SC and IA. I don't think Cain will be able to raise the sawbucks for the long haul. TPaw just won't exite enough people and really has had a hard time raising money. Romney is still the big boy on the block and I suspect the Establishment will line up behind him. The best situation we could hope for at this point is here for us.
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K, please don't underestimate cain. he will be promoted endlessly
 
I don't underestimate anybody, but he's still gotta raise the money to compete in the long haul and actually put boots on the ground. The way I see it, there will be a LOT of noise over the next few months up to IA about who's in and who's out and a race like Cain's will be challenged for air time and attention. We are the turtle against the hare's. We don't neccessarily need a lot of the TV graces to raise $$$ and virtually everyone else (outside of Mitt) does. They (The Establishment) are also splitting up resources ...money, activists, attention, etc.
 
First, DO NOT underestimate Herman Cain. He's in town Monday evening. I'll be there to check out what's crowd he gets.

Second, if you listen to what Huck said he left the door wide open to throw his hat in the ring at a future date. He's will likely enter the race after the straw poll in late Sept or early October saying saving the expense of the straw poll.
 
The problem with speculating as to whether Bachmann or Newt or Palin etc. will split Paul's vote is, it isn't clear Paul is really going for a vote that can be split. His pro-constitution supporters (us) are rather locked in solid behind Paul, so the actual voting bloc that means something is the religious right and social/cultural conservatives. Paul has never reached out strongly to get this faction, even though he's got the ammo (pro-life doctor, supported DOMA, Christian, pro gun rights, anti-amnesty).

Yes, they are wary of Paul due to the war/drug issues, but that gap is bridgeable if he emphasizes the above ammo. Not working to get this gettable vote means allowing it to become a jump ball for other contenders to get. One of the statist candidates will end up with the lion's share of these people, not because they are out to 'split' Ron's support, but because he never went for them in the first place.
 
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First, DO NOT underestimate Herman Cain. He's in town Monday evening. I'll be there to check out what's crowd he gets.

Second, if you listen to what Huck said he left the door wide open to throw his hat in the ring at a future date. He's will likely enter the race after the straw poll in late Sept or early October saying saving the expense of the straw poll.
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Be interested in the former ... but highly doubt the latter. As of today, I suspect all Huck's former staff and advisors have flown the coop to other camps and jobs if they haven't already. Too little too late by then. "Leaving it open for a future date" works pretty well for ratings on TV though ...just not for the real world of Presidential politics when you have to have a staff, boots on the ground, and raise the money.
 
As I mentioned in a different thread, one of Pawlenty, Cain, or Daniels is going to emerge as the "conservative" alternative to Romney if Paul can't do that first. Bachmann won't endanger her congressional seat for a Presidential run with little chance of success, Huntsman is too similar to Romney to be a plausible alternative, Palin is not going to put herself through the scrutinty associated with a national campaign, Trump and Gingrich are DOA with all their baggage, Santorum has a name problem, and Johnson is a social liberal.
 
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