William Weld: NAFTA "is the supreme law of the land"

69360 said:
Who cares? He's never going to be in a position of power. Nobody evenly remotely thinks this LP ticket will win. His credibility as a former governor and his fundraising will advance what might become a third option in US politics. I'm voting for them.

I think your energy dissing Weld is misplaced. Hate Trump and Clinton instead.
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libertarians should care. What sort of "credibility" will the LP gain when they're willing to throw out values and beliefs in the pursuit of votes and notoriety?

If these type of candidates become acceptable by libertarians then what's stopping the LP from nominating people like Graham and Kristol? The LP will become no different than the GOP.
 
So I guess people won't be up in arms if President Trump decides to unilaterally scrap the Iran Deal like he said?


It is a major contradiction for libertarian to oppose trade deals but at the same time support diplomacy agreements.
 
Rudeman said:
libertarians should care. What sort of "credibility" will the LP gain when they're willing to throw out values and beliefs in the pursuit of votes and notoriety?

If these type of candidates become acceptable by libertarians then what's stopping the LP from nominating people like Graham and Kristol? The LP will become no different than the GOP.
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Massive exaggeration on your part. Johnson is a good person and even Weld isn't too bad. Neither is a criminal like the two major party candidates. More than half of the people who went to the LP convention apparently agree.

Where exactly has your impossible purity tests got the LP? They have never even held a statewide office no less national.

Do they want to be some purist debate society or move toward a viable party? I'm watching closely and am almost ready to change my registration to LP.
 
Krugminator2 said:
So I guess people won't be up in arms if President Trump decides to unilaterally scrap the Iran Deal like he said?


It is a major contradiction for libertarian to oppose trade deals but at the same time support diplomacy agreements.
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Trump won't be president and couldn't just scrap it even if he was.

If you haven't noticed by now, libertarians are not a homogeneous group, some are impossible purists and some are ok with diplomacy.
 
69360 said:
Massive exaggeration on your part. Johnson is a good person and even Weld isn't too bad. Neither is a criminal like the two major party candidates. More than half of the people who went to the LP convention apparently agree.

Where exactly has your impossible purity tests got the LP? They have never even held a statewide office no less national.

Do they want to be some purist debate society or move toward a viable party? I'm watching closely and am almost ready to change my registration to LP.
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It doesn't take a purist to know Weld is a globalist. He's the epitome of the bad guys we have been fighting. If the LP accepts him, and they seemingly have, they have tossed their party to TPTB without so much as a whimper.
 
69360 said:
Massive exaggeration on your part. Johnson is a good person and even Weld isn't too bad. Neither is a criminal like the two major party candidates. More than half of the people who went to the LP convention apparently agree.

Where exactly has your impossible purity tests got the LP? They have never even held a statewide office no less national.

Do they want to be some purist debate society or move toward a viable party? I'm watching closely and am almost ready to change my registration to LP.
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What part is an exaggeration? My point is that it's a slippery slope that you're going down. At what point do you draw a line? Is there a line even to be drawn?

I don't have any purity test, either I like the candidate enough to support them or I don't (their stances on issues/actions/intellect etc all factor in). Obviously I would prefer someone who mostly aligns with my views but I know that isn't always the case and isn't very likely.
 
This interview was given in 1990. Trump's analysis was spot on and Gorbachev would be ousted and see the entire country collapse in the following year. None of the pundits or foreign policy "experts" were predicting that, yet Trump saw it clearly.
 
LibertyEagle said:
It doesn't take a purist to know Weld is a globalist. He's the epitome of the bad guys we have been fighting. If the LP accepts him, and they seemingly have, they have tossed their party to TPTB without so much as a whimper.
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Yes, I seem to have forgotten all about those mysterious boogeymen in the CFR who rule the world.

You continue to bash the LP candidates who have nothing to gain personally and probably a lot to lose by joining the LP. But you back Trump who is all about self promotion and personal power.

Rudeman said:
What part is an exaggeration? My point is that it's a slippery slope that you're going down. At what point do you draw a line? Is there a line even to be drawn?

I don't have any purity test, either I like the candidate enough to support them or I don't (their stances on issues/actions/intellect etc all factor in). Obviously I would prefer someone who mostly aligns with my views but I know that isn't always the case and isn't very likely.
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Johnson would be a decent president on the million to one shot he was elected correct? He is undoubtedly honest and wants to do something good for the country right? I see no downside to a vote for him even if he doesn't perfectly align with your, my views or the LP's views.
 
69360 said:
Massive exaggeration on your part. Johnson is a good person and even Weld isn't too bad. Neither is a criminal like the two major party candidates. More than half of the people who went to the LP convention apparently agree.
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What is the difference between Mitt Romney and William Weld?
 
phill4paul said:
Why is it that you invoke Ron's advise when it suits you and ignore it when it doesn't vis-a-vis Trump?
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I acknowledge that Ron doesn't like Trump. I am not saying it doesn't exist; nor am I calling it "mysterious boogeymen" behavior. I just think he's wrong, given the state of our country. I wish Rand would have done better, but fact is, he didn't. So, we are left with not voting or voting for whom we individually believe will be best for the country, right here, right now. That said, if Trump chooses a CFR running mate, I won't be voting for him either.

Secondly, I knew about the CFR before Ron Paul started talking about them. That seems to be an issue here. So many had no clue about the evilness of the IMF, World Bank, UN, CFR, Federal Reserve, the push for world government, etc. until they heard RP talking about them in '08.
 
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Really sad state of affairs for the LP. Without the core principles there's no point.

Maybe a better strategy would be to try rebooting the GOP as Libertarian in 2020 if Trump destroys it as president.
 
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