I just hope alot more people are like I have been. I really have not cared that much about politics in the past (I am only 29 after all) but recently I have become obsessed over all of these bailouts and the fleecing of America. And no, I haven't been watching Fox news for my info. As time goes by, more and more people will wake up.
Will U.S. Citizens Ever Stand Up and Fight Like Those In Greece?
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I certainly hope Americans don't ever turn into mobs of thugs looting and burning their own country.
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You're right....people need to learn the hard way
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I have a feeling they will become mobs and thugs looting and raping everything in site. The people lack the intelligence to look up the truth or to yearn for the truth. So any revolution now would be pointless because We would end up with the same in the end. The only revolution that would ever turn out for the better is if the middle class got fed up with the corruption and the slavery. I would never want to poor to revolt because if that ever happened We would surely see communism.
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IMO, minorities are more prone to violent outbursts than WASP's. I think there would have been a high probability of this happening in the US had the Supreme Court ruled Obama to be foreign born and not eligible to be POTUS.
For white America to reach this level of outrage, prolonged unemployment will have to reach Great Depression levels and the government will have to be seen as ineffectual. Food, heating, housing and other essentials will have to reach critical levels of shortage.
Look at the Rally For The Republic. Only about 12,000 were dedicated enough, or concerned enough, to travel cross country to show support for our Movement. This is probably about the best we can do under current conditions.
The single issue which might ignite an outburst is if the Left would make the mistake of actually trying to ban guns, and then, using the registration records filled out at the time of purchase, started raiding homes to confiscate these weapons.
For white America to reach this level of outrage, prolonged unemployment will have to reach Great Depression levels and the government will have to be seen as ineffectual. Food, heating, housing and other essentials will have to reach critical levels of shortage.
Look at the Rally For The Republic. Only about 12,000 were dedicated enough, or concerned enough, to travel cross country to show support for our Movement. This is probably about the best we can do under current conditions.
The single issue which might ignite an outburst is if the Left would make the mistake of actually trying to ban guns, and then, using the registration records filled out at the time of purchase, started raiding homes to confiscate these weapons.
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Protests beginning????
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081213/ap_on_re_us/bank_bombing
Bank blast kills police officer in Oregon
By BRAD CAIN, Associated Press Writer Brad Cain, Associated Press Writer Sat Dec 13, 6:23 am ET
WOODBURN, Ore. – A bomb exploded inside a bank here late Friday afternoon, killing a police officer who arrived to check on a suspicious object and seriously injuring two others.
A spokesman for the Oregon State Police, Lt. Gregg Hastings, said a Woodburn police officer died. He did not identify him.
He also said the blast seriously injured the Woodburn police chief and a bomb technician with the Oregon State Police.
The police chief, Scott Russell, was in surgery at a Portland hospital late Friday, said a hospital spokeswoman. Hastings said Russell was in stable condition.
Bank President and CEO Bob Sznewajs told The Associated Press that some bank employees might have been injured by flying glass but that none was seriously hurt.
Before the detonation, a Wells Fargo Bank branch nearby got a call that was "a potential bomb threat" but police searched and found nothing, Sznewajs told The AP.
He said his bank then got a call "from an unknown person saying that we should look for one as well. We called authorities, but they looked and found nothing."
Sznewajs said one employee saw a device in the bushes near the bank and called the authorities. "We looked at it and evacuated the branch and sent people away," he said.
Authorities decided to move the device inside the branch, apparently scanned it, and then it went off, he said.
Sznewajs said he did not know if the bomb went off on its own or as a result of the technicians' investigation.
The Marion County Sheriff's Department said the device detonated at 5:24 p.m. The bank branch, which employs 3-5 people, normally closes at 6 p.m.
Sznewajs said he knew of no previous threats against the bank.
Late Friday night, federal agents were talking with security people at the bank about any information they may have, Sznewajs said.
Woodburn is an agricultural town south of Portland.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081213/ap_on_re_us/bank_bombing
Bank blast kills police officer in Oregon
By BRAD CAIN, Associated Press Writer Brad Cain, Associated Press Writer Sat Dec 13, 6:23 am ET
WOODBURN, Ore. – A bomb exploded inside a bank here late Friday afternoon, killing a police officer who arrived to check on a suspicious object and seriously injuring two others.
A spokesman for the Oregon State Police, Lt. Gregg Hastings, said a Woodburn police officer died. He did not identify him.
He also said the blast seriously injured the Woodburn police chief and a bomb technician with the Oregon State Police.
The police chief, Scott Russell, was in surgery at a Portland hospital late Friday, said a hospital spokeswoman. Hastings said Russell was in stable condition.
Bank President and CEO Bob Sznewajs told The Associated Press that some bank employees might have been injured by flying glass but that none was seriously hurt.
Before the detonation, a Wells Fargo Bank branch nearby got a call that was "a potential bomb threat" but police searched and found nothing, Sznewajs told The AP.
He said his bank then got a call "from an unknown person saying that we should look for one as well. We called authorities, but they looked and found nothing."
Sznewajs said one employee saw a device in the bushes near the bank and called the authorities. "We looked at it and evacuated the branch and sent people away," he said.
Authorities decided to move the device inside the branch, apparently scanned it, and then it went off, he said.
Sznewajs said he did not know if the bomb went off on its own or as a result of the technicians' investigation.
The Marion County Sheriff's Department said the device detonated at 5:24 p.m. The bank branch, which employs 3-5 people, normally closes at 6 p.m.
Sznewajs said he knew of no previous threats against the bank.
Late Friday night, federal agents were talking with security people at the bank about any information they may have, Sznewajs said.
Woodburn is an agricultural town south of Portland.
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Unfortunately, from what I've seen of the riots the rioters have been sporting anarchist or anarcho-socialist emblems. I'm not at all confident that they're rioting for anything good just because they attack many of the same obstacles that we oppose.
As I read this thread I started, there are good points on how people in the U.S. would not be organized and would instead riot and loot if it came time to overthrow the government.
That is a shame because, to paraphrase Jefferson, the people should not fear the government, the government should fear the people.
And that is the point as I see it today - the government does not fear the people, and I'm not just talking about armed revolt. Congress has less than a 20% approval rating and yet they still get re-elected at a 95% clip. They don't even have to fear for their jobs.
I do believe, and agree, that changing the hearts and minds of the people - especially at the voting booth, is obviously the best way to go.
However, the vast majority of Americans are apathetic sheep who are now counting on the government to "save" them from this financial crisis with their own money.
The way the citizenry has just roled over to these insane bailout plans and the fact that there probably would be looting and rioting as opposed to an organized takeover of the government if things get much worse than they are now shows just how far this country has strayed from what it is supposed to stand for.
Forget about violent revolution that should be avoided if other means are possible - I think the points made in the thread show just how far we have to go just doing things in a civil manner - and it is a long, long, ways to go.
That is a shame because, to paraphrase Jefferson, the people should not fear the government, the government should fear the people.
And that is the point as I see it today - the government does not fear the people, and I'm not just talking about armed revolt. Congress has less than a 20% approval rating and yet they still get re-elected at a 95% clip. They don't even have to fear for their jobs.
I do believe, and agree, that changing the hearts and minds of the people - especially at the voting booth, is obviously the best way to go.
However, the vast majority of Americans are apathetic sheep who are now counting on the government to "save" them from this financial crisis with their own money.
The way the citizenry has just roled over to these insane bailout plans and the fact that there probably would be looting and rioting as opposed to an organized takeover of the government if things get much worse than they are now shows just how far this country has strayed from what it is supposed to stand for.
Forget about violent revolution that should be avoided if other means are possible - I think the points made in the thread show just how far we have to go just doing things in a civil manner - and it is a long, long, ways to go.
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No. Because we Americans are "too civilized" to do such a thing. Revolting? Guns? Violence? Damaging property and breaking laws? Those are acts reserved for monkey people.
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I couldn't have said it any better.
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Actions Speak Louder Than Words
Fight like Greece? I'm still waiting on all those anarchists to move to Somolia. They won't even do that!
Fight like Greece? I'm still waiting on all those anarchists to move to Somolia. They won't even do that!
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You and me both, brother.
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It's hard to say.
On the one hand, it has become painfully obvious that most Americans will not do anything until their own MeMyself&I world is negatively impacted and that, then, a truly disturbing number of them will do whatever it takes to save their own skins. To hell with everyone else is a popular sentiment, which is ironic for prevailing in a quote-unquote Christian nation and then doubly ironic for revealing that the person possessed of such a sentiment is one of the people who will be going to Hell, if one ascribes to the Heaven/Hell paradigm.
On the other hand, my half-century of life experience and my couple years lately immersed in American politics says that the American People . . . as the hard-to-define but easy-to-recognizable Force of Nature not witnessed since World War II . . . can be goaded into a Righteous Fury.
Incredibly, Americans could also just SIT THERE, talking and typing, and let the whole thing go to hell in a hand basket . . . typing furiously about how they KNEW this was gonna happen and how they could have TOLD us what to do.
I believe that these next few months are a turning point in human history, and that this little window before the inauguration is a crossroads.
Without some klieg-bright light shone on the affairs, associations and activities of Obama & Gang, the preamble of our Declaration of Independence sums up our Situation and my Position.
One thing that IS clear is that the people of Western Europe whose bacon we have saved on more than one occasion will, by and large, spectate while we fend for ourselves.
On the one hand, it has become painfully obvious that most Americans will not do anything until their own MeMyself&I world is negatively impacted and that, then, a truly disturbing number of them will do whatever it takes to save their own skins. To hell with everyone else is a popular sentiment, which is ironic for prevailing in a quote-unquote Christian nation and then doubly ironic for revealing that the person possessed of such a sentiment is one of the people who will be going to Hell, if one ascribes to the Heaven/Hell paradigm.
On the other hand, my half-century of life experience and my couple years lately immersed in American politics says that the American People . . . as the hard-to-define but easy-to-recognizable Force of Nature not witnessed since World War II . . . can be goaded into a Righteous Fury.
Incredibly, Americans could also just SIT THERE, talking and typing, and let the whole thing go to hell in a hand basket . . . typing furiously about how they KNEW this was gonna happen and how they could have TOLD us what to do.
I believe that these next few months are a turning point in human history, and that this little window before the inauguration is a crossroads.
Without some klieg-bright light shone on the affairs, associations and activities of Obama & Gang, the preamble of our Declaration of Independence sums up our Situation and my Position.
One thing that IS clear is that the people of Western Europe whose bacon we have saved on more than one occasion will, by and large, spectate while we fend for ourselves.
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The L.A. riots were spontaneous, disorganized and counterproductive.
I could see the fires from my then-bedroom balcony, snug within the protective umbrella of the independent Beverly Hills Police.
That's not my story anymore. I am closer to the action now, note the moniker, and I am telling anyone who will listen that I mean to get out of Dodge before the next Episode.
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to answer your question, NO.
as long as they have their iPOD, $.99 cheeseburgers and are relatively comfortable, aint s*** going to happen.
as long as they have their iPOD, $.99 cheeseburgers and are relatively comfortable, aint s*** going to happen.
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No. Because americans on average are actually satisfied with their lives. I know that is hard to believe and I am definately not one of those americans but its actually true. Probably 50-55% combined voted for either McCain or Obama. So the majority voted for the status quo. They voted for no change. So probably 10-15% actually voted third party. So that shows you only 10-15% probably give a damn and want change. The others are still zombies and don't realize what is actually happening until it will be too late.
So it might be a while before the revolution gets enough support to manifest itself into a substantial violent demonstration. Sadly.
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Exactly so.
As we see by our haste in throwing away civil liberties with both hands, fear is highly motivational.
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