Will Tom Davis be Ron Paul's successor?

ZanZibar said:
yes.
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Not a chance. If Ron didn't do what he did, there would have been no Tea Party movement for Rand to ride. No early fundraising. No name recognition. No enthusiastic base of support. He would still be an eye surgeon today.

Don't try and diminish what Ron has achieved in order to position yourself for 2016. No one likes a kiss-ass.
 
His endorsement did nothing for us, in fact our poll numbers went down after the endorsement and the results were too. Hardly game changing it was.
 
bluesc said:
Not a chance. If Ron didn't do what he did, there would have been no Tea Party movement for Rand to ride. No early fundraising. No name recognition. No enthusiastic base of support. He would still be an eye surgeon today.
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You underestimate the conservative / paleocon / old-right base of Ron's support.


But regardless, no Rand could NOT have won in KY if he had used Ron's rhetoric on foreign policy
 
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ZanZibar said:
You underestimate the conservative / paleocon / old-right base of Ron's support.


But regardless, no Rand could NOT have won in KY if he had used Ron's rhetoric on foreign policy
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Rand won the election, and he still hasn't embraced Ron's foreign policy.

In any event, with the way Davis is pushing the Mises Institute, if he ends up like DeMint, I would consider that a colossal failure.
 
Feeding the Abscess said:
Rand won the election, and he still hasn't embraced Ron's foreign policy.
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Regarding his voting record he absolutely has (the exception being slamming the Iranian central bank). Rand tried to stop the war in Iraq, and prevented a war with Russia. And that was just within the last 45 days! This is not to mention the attempt at stopping the NDAA.

Please take your FUD elsewhere.
 
ZanZibar said:
Regarding his voting record he absolutely has (the exception being slamming the Iranian central bank). Rand tried to stop the war in Iraq, and prevented a war with Russia. And that was just within the last 45 days! This is not to mention the attempt at stopping the NDAA.

Please take your FUD elsewhere.
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Voting for sanctions on a country is a pretty serious offense. It directly opposes non-interventionism, and isn't something that should be warmed over.

Back on topic, if Tom Davis really is knee-deep in the Mises Institute, to the point of talking about it publicly, I doubt he'll end up a DeMint-type.
 
Occam's Banana said:
His participation in the Mises Academy is a very good sign. I hope he keeps it up. If he does, I have no doubt that the rEVOLution will have his back.

However, you should say "as one of Ron Paul's successors" - don't forget Glen Bradley, Justin Amash & Rand Paul!

And I hope we can add Karen Kwiatkowski & Thomas Massie to that list soon.
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and Marc Scaringi (running for senate in PA)
 
Feeding the Abscess said:
Voting for sanctions on a country is a pretty serious offense.
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He voted agasint the Iranian central bank. If Iran voted to not do business with the US Federal Reserve, would that be ok with you?


Feeding the Abscess said:
Back on topic, if Tom Davis really is knee-deep in the Mises Institute, to the point of talking about it publicly, I doubt he'll end up a DeMint-type.
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DeMint has come around quite a bit lately, but yes hopefully we can get someone of Ron/Rand's philsophical integrity.
 
ZanZibar said:
He voted agasint the Iranian central bank. If Iran voted to not do business with the US Federal Reserve, would that be ok with you?
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He voted for the authority to ban the entire world from doing dealings with a sovereign country's central bank. Disagree with a central bank all you (correctly) want, but to bar the entire world from doing business with a country flies in the face of everything associated with a foreign policy of peace and commerce. By approving these sanctions, you are approving the Iraq sanctions from the 1990s. Additionally, would you agree with the U.N. banning pre-emptive war? You want war to end, right?

Horrible justification, and not worth a second of anyone's time.
 
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Feeding the Abscess said:
He voted for the authority to ban the entire world from doing dealings with a sovereign country's central bank.
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Can you cite this? It's my understanding it only prohibited Americans from doing business with their central bank. You could indeed be correct, but I would like you to prove it.
 
Rand's under-the-radar adoption of Ron Paul's foreign policy is why he has a better change of becoming president than his dad. As long as he does not expand our foreign entanglements, I'm willing to support him even if he does not significantly withdraw our overseas forces.

About Tom Davis...I don't know how good of a gauge his voting record is. He seems to have only recently come to adopt a lot of Ron Paul's positions. It may be that his past voting record is not one he would support anymore, and that in the future he will be far more libertarian.

But yes, Ron Paul has many successors. Tom Davis, Marc Scaringi, Rand Paul, Justin Amash, Gary Johnson, etc.
 
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