Will the Revolution grow 2x or 4x's it's size in 4 years?

[Michigan11]

honestly why is this bitch still a mod he is a follower not a leader and never has done a fucking thing on the forums

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CaseyJones again.

 

[muzzled dogg]

That's a short sited view Shemdogg. What about our liberty candidates elected and to come? Only RP? Ideology he preached matters to you or not?

I'm talking about liberty in our lifetime. If all of the half dozen -ish candidates who halve sections on Rpf all get elected it's still not going to make a quantifiable difference legislatively. What made Rp so successful in my eyes was not any of his [failed] legislation but his rhetoric. It's the ideas that he delivered

 

[JSaindon]

I am spreading the liberty message to anyone who wants to hear/debate it. This forum and its members helped me learn and become more in tune to the bs that happens on a daily basis. I'm not one for all the conspiracy stuff, but the liberty message is strong with me. So thanks RPF for showing me people do think for themselves. Hope in humanity is not lost yet. I also plan on getting involved in local politics to change the climate of the system for the better. I am bringing a child into this world so I feel more obligated to do my part in shaping a better country for the next generation.

 

[Michigan11]

I'm talking about liberty in our lifetime. If all of the half dozen -ish candidates who halve sections on Rpf all get elected it's still not going to make a quantifiable difference legislatively. What made Rp so successful in my eyes was not any of his [failed] legislation but his rhetoric. It's the ideas that he delivered

So you think if all others that are elected just say the right things what we want to hear, we will move forward?

We are in transitioning stage, and I will tell you I found RP in 06, because his voting record, like our liberty candidates I support.

I disagree with you completely. It's not about the man, it's about the ideology, that this movement grew. Most will agree, if not, they never understood what the man said.

 

[Michigan11]

Hell Shemdogg,

If it's just the rhetoric, why aren't you all about the rinos then? rhetoric really?

 

[muzzled dogg]

honestly why is this bitch still a mod he is a follower not a leader and never has done a fucking thing on the forums

Lol honestly I don't even know how to respond to this other than last time I was verbally abused by a mod I lit up maresco in public and he had to edit the shit I was calling him out for. *Casey you got a problem call me up 413.230.1245 I'd like to hear about who you think I have been following, who you think I've been trying to lead, and how I have "never done a fuxking thing on the forums"

 

[CaseyJones]

Lol honestly I don't even know how to respond to this other than last time I was verbally abused by a mod I lit up maresco in public and he had to edit the shit I was calling him out for. *Casey you got a problem call me up 413.230.1245 I'd like to hear about who you think I have been following, who you think I've been trying to lead, and how I have "never done a fuxking thing on the forums"

lite me up MFer.. you have never responded to one fucking flag you have never done one god damn thing on the forums as far as mod action your whined you little fucking ass off about how useless the freestaters were in NH you are a idolator and that is all you are useless as tits on a boar

 

[muzzled dogg]

Hell Shemdogg,

If it's just the rhetoric, why aren't you all about the rinos then? rhetoric really?

Apologies if I wasn't clear. My comments were directed at the rand defenders who say, "well, how is his voting record?"

My point was that a voting record was not good enough on its own and that we need voting record plus relatively well articulated, principled justification

Sorry for the confusion I didn't explain that first time around

 

[Michigan11]

Apologies if I wasn't clear. My comments were directed at the rand defenders who say, "well, how is his voting record?"

My point was that a voting record was not good enough on its own and that we need voting record plus relatively well articulated, principled justification

Sorry for the confusion I didn't explain that first time around

A voting record isn't enough? You need what the average rino voters need, rhetoric?

 

[Czolgosz]

Revolution will never be more than 30%...it'll likely hover around 20%.

Do as the forefathers did.

 

[muzzled dogg]

lite me up MFer.. you have never responded to one fucking flag you have never done one god damn thing on the forums as far as mod action your whined you little fucking ass off about how useless the freestaters were in NH you are a idolator and that is all you are useless as tits on a boar

Casey do a forum search on threads ive created and tell me I didn't do anything for the cause

And with respext to the moderator slot I explicitly told josh that didn't want to be a mod to enforce the forum's acceptable use policy but rather to coordinate real activism [see previous sentence]

As far as idolaters are I don't even know what that word means

Why no telephone call?

 

[muzzled dogg]

A voting record isn't enough? You need what the average rino voters need, rhetoric?

A voting record is not enough. How many times has Ron Paul's one vote made a difference. It's his rhetoric and principles and consistency that have inspired all of us

 

[CaseyJones]

no telephone call cause I do not have a fucking phone drone

 

[muzzled dogg]

Ok

 

[CaseyJones]

if I had half the fucking resources you Mfers do we would have won this shit..

 

[Michigan11]

A voting record is not enough. How many times has Ron Paul's one vote made a difference. It's his rhetoric and principles and consistency that have inspired all of us

A voting record is not enough? What?

If that is the case we can't win by your measurement of scales. Long face.

 

[muzzled dogg]

A voting record is not enough? What?

If that is the case we can't win by your measurement of scales. Long face.

Was Ron voting record enough? In my opinion, no; his votes didn't make a quantifiable difference. What made him special was, on top of his voting record, his rhetoric etc is what inspired us

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe for you someone who consistently voted no with no justification would have had the same effect

Maybe someone who

 

[playpianoking]

It will grow only if we focus on what we are - libertarians! It is my opinion that Ron's only mistake was trying to reform a party that doesn't stand close enough to what we believe. If he was the libertarian nominee, he would've reached 15% polling nationwide and would've been included in the debates.

 

[Michigan11]

Was Ron voting record enough? In my opinion, no; his votes didn't make a quantifiable difference. What made him special was, on top of his voting record, his rhetoric etc is what inspired us

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe for you someone who consistently voted no with no justification would have had the same effect

Maybe someone who

Shaking my head right now. If results mean nothing, such as votes, then you are in your own leauge

 

[muzzled dogg]

Resulys mean everything

And rons votes show no quantifiable accomplisents. He was never a deciding vote and never swayed a vote. Other than a half assed diluted fed audit he never sponsored a single piece of legislation in years that passed. That is, no legislative results whatsoever

It's the message that made him special to us. For me, his never ending educational campaign is what educated us and that paid more dividends than what any legislation could ever do. But im under no delusion that Ron Paul made any impact by simply casting votes in Washington. That by itself accomplished absolutely nothing.