Will the Libertarian Party Field A Candidate Against Presidential Candidate Rand Paul?

[neoreactionary]

I disagree. Al-Qaeda are the ones that are doing something that the majority of people don't have the stones to do. They are standing by their principal and working on what they believe in regardless of their "chances."

See what I did there?

Your argument reminds me of Laura Ingraham's thoughts on Edward Snowden. She says that she's glad the information he released is out there but somehow still thinks he should have "gone through the proper channels."

This demonstrates nothing more than that your brain is bad at making analogies.

There needs to be an alternative and the refusal to even entertain the idea of a 3rd party is exactly what the tyrants want.

Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people?

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people?

Well stated!

And to add, the LP is NOT a third party - they are a minor party at best. A third party would mean that they had some sort of a national network, state offices, elected officials at all level of government, etc. They don't. In 40 years they have not managed to build anything that remotely resembles a political party. See my post of the pitiful number of people they actually have holding elected office. Again 40 fucking years and this is what they accomplished. They have never elected ANYONE to an office higher than a state legislature position, and the majority of the 12, count them, 12 people that have won a state legislature seat on their ballot line, did so by running on BOTH the Republican line and the LP line. 40 years of spending money, dressing up in jackets and ties and pretending to be a political party. What they are really doing is a gradious sham where they take delusional and uninformed people and bilk them out of their hard earned money and precious time.

If the LP was a horse, it should be put down.

 

[twomp]

This demonstrates nothing more than that your brain is bad at making analogies.

I would say your brain is bad at understanding analogies. Bringing up Al-Qaeda does nothing for me. The government does it all the time. I'm not scared of the boogie man that you and your fellow tyrants bring up to try and fear me into agreeing with you.

 

[FrankRep]

I want to see Ron Paul-like people elected. I don't care what party they are in. The GOP is the best opportunity, however.

 

[Carlybee]

And I invite you to stay in the Libertarian Party also for the same reason Vitamix doesn't hire this gal as their spokesman:

I don't belong to the Libertarian Party. I am a registered Republican.

 

[neoreactionary]

I would say your brain is bad at understanding analogies. Bringing up Al-Qaeda does nothing for me. The government does it all the time. I'm not scared of the boogie man that you and your fellow tyrants bring up to try and fear me into agreeing with you.

This is a further demonstration that your brain is bad at making analogies. I am not trying to "fear [you] into agreeing with [me]."

You should recognize your cognitive limitations and be more humble.

 

[jtstellar]

why not..

and make sure you attack rand paul as viciously as you could with your 1% constituent, LP. in most likely scenario that's going to start drawing disillusioned democrats from their own party.

let's face it most people who place economics and constitution as their priority libertarian issue are now in gop supporting rand. rest of the bums don't have much care for economic issues are likely dumb broke youngsters who worry about social issues and they are likely to stay democrat anyhow. gogogo LP, you can draw those crowd away from the democrat. it will be hilarious to see infighting between democrats and the LP if democrats have to worry about their behind because gary johnson is outdoing them on gay marriages issue and feminism(disguised in abortion debate). hillary clinton: hey don't be stealing my thunder man. go gary johnson. doooooo iiiiiiiiiit

 

[FrankRep]

why not.. and make sure you attack rand paul as hardly as you could with your 1% constituent, LP. in most likely scenario that's going to start drawing disillusioned democrats from their own party.

let's face it most people who place economics and constitution as their priority libertarian issue are now in gop supporting rand. rest of the bums don't have much care for economic issues are likely dumb broke youngsters who worry about social issues and they are likely to stay democrat anyhow. gogogo LP, you can draw those crowd away from the democrat

Democrats support Big Government. They will not support the Libertarians.

 

[PatriotOne]

I don't belong to the Libertarian Party. I am a registered Republican.

Oh geez. Well can you at least keep that info on the down-low instead of saying it out loud?

 

[Carlybee]

Oh geez. Well can you at least keep that info on the down-low instead of saying it out loud?

Trust me, given some of the representatives in this thread like you..it isn't much to brag about.

 

[eduardo89]

They ran a candidate against Amash, so they certainly will against Rand.

The LP are a bunch of loser douchebags who are more interested in 'ideologically pure' circlejerks than doing anything of significance.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

They ran a candidate against Amash, so they certainly will against Rand.

The LP are a bunch of loser douchebags who are more interested in 'ideologically pure' circlejerks than doing anything of significance.

If that were true, Bob Barr and Gary Johnson wouldn't have been the last two LP candidates for president.

 

[PatriotOne]

They ran a candidate against Amash, so they certainly will against Rand.

The LP are a bunch of loser douchebags who are more interested in 'ideologically pure' circlejerks than doing anything of significance.

I like most Libertarians. There were a lot of them that saw the benefit and opportunity of working to change the GOP since 2007 and still are. But damn...a handful of the so-called Libertarians on this board make the rest of them look like a bunch of buffoons incapable of any strategy what-so-ever. If I was a L, I'd be asking them to turn their card in.

 

[jtstellar]

They ran a candidate against Amash, so they certainly will against Rand.

The LP are a bunch of loser douchebags who are more interested in 'ideologically pure' circlejerks than doing anything of significance.

lol pure

i'm willing to bet a good percentage of them are willing to trample the constitution and put definition of marriage into federal law then force it to all states in favor of gay marriage. many LP members are also to the right of rand paul on foreign policy and to the left of him on economics.

there were vocal voices against ron in 08 and 12 based on economics his call for fed overhaul and honset money as well as in some cases foreign intervention, but as the paul family rise more and more out of anonymity, so do these voices quiet down substantially. you can see the cowardice. what can the catherine-mangu-wards achieve against paul in the LP? not very much. oh, right, whatever happened to that self described libertarian economist megan mcardle? is she still alive

 

[GregSarnowski]

If that were true, Bob Barr and Gary Johnson wouldn't have been the last two LP candidates for president.

Agreed, they seem to be more than willing to compromise, the problem is the system is heavily stacked against third parties and independents and that's not going to change anytime soon.

What really needs to happen is the "Commission on Presidential Debates" needs to be disbanded and an independent organization go back to hosting the general election debates. The CPD is run by duopoly insiders and is designed to keep alternative voices out. Anyone who is on enough ballots to conceivably win the presidency should be allowed on stage. Americans go to the store and pick from 50 different kinds of potato chips, I think they can handle 4 or at most 5 candidates. It is a transparent farce and no one seems to care. Lawsuits against it have gone nowhere. At least the Green Party candidate was willing to show up last election and get arrested over it; Johnson wasn't.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Trust me, given some of the representatives in this thread like you..it isn't much to brag about.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Carlybee again.

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

Agreed, they seem to be more than willing to compromise, the problem is the system is heavily stacked against third parties and independents and that's not going to change anytime soon.

What really needs to happen is the "Commission on Presidential Debates" needs to be disbanded and an independent organization go back to hosting the general election debates. The CPD is run by duopoly insiders and is designed to keep alternative voices out. Anyone who is on enough ballots to conceivably win the presidency should be allowed on stage. Americans go to the store and pick from 50 different kinds of potato chips, I think they can handle 4 or at most 5 candidates. It is a transparent farce and no one seems to care. Lawsuits against it have gone nowhere. At least the Green Party candidate was willing to show up last election and get arrested over it; Johnson wasn't.

I am off the opinion that the do not deserve to be in the debates because they are not real political parties. Just because they can focus time, money and energy at getting on the ballots in X amount of states does not make them a real political party. Win some state legislature seats on their own merit, build up some respectable leaders that can then run for Congress and State Senate seats, have some Congressmen go for the Senate. Be an actual political party, and then you can run a candidate for the White House that isn't written off as a joke.

The LP, CP , et al are like a guy who refuses to get a job, but plays the lottery every week as his means of attaining wealth. The LP isn't willing to do the hard work to succeed as a political party, they just play the lottery by running unqualified people for major offices each and every year.

 

[GregSarnowski]

I am off the opinion that the do not deserve to be in the debates because they are not real political parties. Just because they can focus time, money and energy at getting on the ballots in X amount of states does not make them a real political party. Win some state legislature seats on their own merit, build up some respectable leaders that can then run for Congress and State Senate seats, have some Congressmen go for the Senate. Be an actual political party, and then you can run a candidate for the White House that isn't written off as a joke.

The fact that they are on enough ballots to conceivably win the presidency proves they are a "real" political party. It is not an insignificant achievement, and it is one that the two "major" parties have conveniently availed themselves of. Your definition of what constitutes a real political party is arbitrary and serves the interests of the corrupt status-quo. It might look like we are making good inroads right now, but Rand or another decent candidate getting the GOP nomination is not a sure thing; not even close.

 

[FrankRep]

They ran a candidate against Amash, so they certainly will against Rand.

The LP are a bunch of loser douchebags who are more interested in 'ideologically pure' circlejerks than doing anything of significance.

So even Justin Amash is too big government for the Libertarians?

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

The fact that they are on enough ballots to conceivably win the presidency proves they are a "real" political party. It is not an insignificant achievement, and it is one that the two "major" parties have conveniently availed themselves of. Your definition of what constitutes a real political party is arbitrary and serves the interests of the corrupt status-quo. It might look like we are making good inroads right now, but Rand or another decent candidate getting the GOP nomination is not a sure thing; not even close.

Not buying it, sorry. 40 years of failure is enough. The LP has NEVER done the hard work it takes to build from the ground up. They are nothing more than a complete and utter waste of time and money.