WikiLeaks: Ron Paul Explains What Baghdad Embassy Cable Reveals

[charrob]

WikiLeaks: Ron Paul Explains What Baghdad Embassy Cable Reveals:



"Once it becomes acceptable to equate truth with treason, we can no longer call ourselves a free society."
~Ron Paul

 

[susano]

I watched that and then clicked on one of the thumbnails to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuHweFGNA6E&feature=player_embedded

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Rand will always be suspect until he puts on the "man pants" like his father does (who does so on a regular basis).

 

[jtstellar]

Rand will always be suspect until he puts on the "man pants" like his father does (who does so on a regular basis).

and you a fraction of rand's before you even consider to start being condescending

 

[TheDriver]

Rand will always be suspect until he puts on the "man pants" like his father does (who does so on a regular basis).

I think anyone who proposes the most extreme cut in government's history - that's what Rand Paul did recently - can wear whatever pants he wants, IMO.

 

[Gaius1981]

Rand will always be suspect until he puts on the "man pants" like his father does (who does so on a regular basis).

 

[Bruno]

Everyone should see this. I shared on fb and someone who didn't really even know Ron Paul was impressed with Ron and shared that people had suspected it for years, and now we have proof, and that it is disturbing.

 

[Stary Hickory]

Great video, I am telling you had people known we had done that..... unbelievable

 

[hazek]

I really hate it that so many copies of this video pop up on youtube so the numbers on just 1 don't grow as fast. Look at this one for example:

 

[__27__]

What a right wing extremist.

Why does no one listen? Obama won largely on the back of "anti-war" votes, if people would just listen to Ron there is no way he wouldn't win. Keep fighting the good fight Dr. Paul, you are an inspiration to us all.

 

[Stary Hickory]

The GOP desperately needs an anti war candidate....Ron Paul is one, but they need more. Romney is no the answer, he is a problem a real problem

 

[Danke]

Great video, I am telling you had people known we had done that..... unbelievable

We actually did know. RP just revealed it is now confirmed by "leaked" government documents.

 

[Stary Hickory]

We actually did know. RP just revealed it is now confirmed by "leaked" government documents.

Well, no people did not know. And I lean towards it being a Diplomatic mistake more than anything. Or at least a diplomat doing what a diplomat does try to placate everything. In any case it either shows incompetence(which I lean towards) or out right maliscous intent which I am skeptical of. In any case it was a huge mistake not to simply communicate, rather than wage war like that.

But also the Middle East, a lot of countries, were eager to see Iraq stopped and actually called for help....that might have changed things politically. And this is a mixture of incompetence and shady dealings, which also is somewhat likely. The idea though that they intentionally mislead Iraq, so that they could wage war on them is not very plausible in my book. For one we gained nothing, we pulled out of Iraq, and Kuwait was still Kuwait. Been a lot easier to simply talk Iraq out of i, if that was an option.

More than likely the US Embassy had a position of cooperation with Iraq and the Bush Administration decided to stick a knife in Iraqs back when the reaction of other Middle Eastern countries was so huge...you can't at that point say "Yeah we told them it was cool and all" so instead that classify a document and go to war. This is the most likely scenario.

 

[__27__]

We actually did know. RP just revealed it is now confirmed by "leaked" government documents.

No, you were just a crazy lunatic conspiracy theorist nutjob. Oh wait, that's anyone who questions the company line on 9/11.

 

[Danke]

No, you were just a crazy lunatic conspiracy theorist nutjob. Oh wait, that's anyone who questions the company line on 9/11.

lol. Well this is certianly a bad CT then. As many reported on it prior to our invasion in early 1991. One such article published in The New York Times on 23 September 1990.

 

[__27__]

lol. Well this is certianly a bad CT then. As many reported on it prior to our invasion in early 1991. One such article published in The New York Times on 23 September 1990.

Are you saying no one reported on government involvement in 9/11? Oh, and the Lusitania was just a poor defenseless cruise ship minding it's own business. CT's are only CT's for as long as they can be hidden and the rulers can get their untermunchen to fight their battles for them.

Sorry, I gotta stop derailing this, this was a brilliant speech and I'm mucking up the waters.

 

[cary]

This issue of Ambassador Glaspie expressing U.S. disinterest in the Iraq and Kuwait border dispute was actually raised on national TV in the third 1992 presidential debate by wildcard candidate Ross Perot. With unctious indignation worthy of Rudy "911 Pixie Dust" Giuliani, Bush denied the obvious implications of her remarks to Saddam. Here is the relevant excerpt from the transcript:

PEROT: And the rest of my minute, I want to make a very brief comment here in terms of Saddam Hussein. We told him that we wouldn't get involved with his border dispute, and we've never revealed those papers that were given to Ambassador Glaspie on July the 25th. I suggest, in the sense of taking responsibility for your actions, we lay those papers on the table. They're not the secrets to the nuclear bomb.

Secondly, we got upset when he took the whole thing, but to the ordinary American out there who doesn't know where the oil fields are in Kuwait, they're near the border. We told him he could take the northern part of Kuwait, and when he took the whole thing, we went nuts. And if we didn't tell him that, why won't we even let the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and the Senate Intelligence Committee see the written instructions for Ambassador Glaspie?

BUSH: I've got reply on that. That gets to the national honor. We did not say to Saddam Hussein, Ross, you can take the northern part of Kuwait.

PEROT: Well, where are the papers?

BUSH: That is absolutely absurd.

PEROT: Where are the papers?

BUSH: Glaspie has testified --

(Applause)

-- and Glaspie's papers have been presented to the U.S. Senate. Please, let's be factual.

PEROT: If you have time, go through Nexis and Lexis, pull all the old news articles, look at what Ambassador Glaspie said all through the fall and what-have-you, and then look at what she and Kelly and all the others in State said at the end when they were trying to clean it up. And talk to any head of any of those key committees in the Senate. They will not let them see the written instructions given to Ambassador Glaspie. And I suggest that in a free society owned by the people, the American people ought to know what we told Ambassador Glaspie to tell Saddam Hussein, because we spent a lot of money and risked lives and lost lives in that effort, and did not accomplish most of our objectives.

We got Kuwait back to the emir but he's still not his nuclear, his chemical, his bacteriological and he's still over there, right? I'd like to see those written instructions.

 

[Kylie]

This issue of Ambassador Glaspie expressing U.S. disinterest in the Iraq and Kuwait border dispute was actually raised on national TV in the third 1992 presidential debate by wildcard candidate Ross Perot. With unctious indignation worthy of Rudy "911 Pixie Dust" Giuliani, Bush denied the obvious implications of her remarks to Saddam. Here is the relevant excerpt from the transcript:

PEROT: And the rest of my minute, I want to make a very brief comment here in terms of Saddam Hussein. We told him that we wouldn't get involved with his border dispute, and we've never revealed those papers that were given to Ambassador Glaspie on July the 25th. I suggest, in the sense of taking responsibility for your actions, we lay those papers on the table. They're not the secrets to the nuclear bomb.

Secondly, we got upset when he took the whole thing, but to the ordinary American out there who doesn't know where the oil fields are in Kuwait, they're near the border. We told him he could take the northern part of Kuwait, and when he took the whole thing, we went nuts. And if we didn't tell him that, why won't we even let the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and the Senate Intelligence Committee see the written instructions for Ambassador Glaspie?

BUSH: I've got reply on that. That gets to the national honor. We did not say to Saddam Hussein, Ross, you can take the northern part of Kuwait.

PEROT: Well, where are the papers?

BUSH: That is absolutely absurd.

PEROT: Where are the papers?

BUSH: Glaspie has testified --

(Applause)

-- and Glaspie's papers have been presented to the U.S. Senate. Please, let's be factual.

PEROT: If you have time, go through Nexis and Lexis, pull all the old news articles, look at what Ambassador Glaspie said all through the fall and what-have-you, and then look at what she and Kelly and all the others in State said at the end when they were trying to clean it up. And talk to any head of any of those key committees in the Senate. They will not let them see the written instructions given to Ambassador Glaspie. And I suggest that in a free society owned by the people, the American people ought to know what we told Ambassador Glaspie to tell Saddam Hussein, because we spent a lot of money and risked lives and lost lives in that effort, and did not accomplish most of our objectives.

We got Kuwait back to the emir but he's still not his nuclear, his chemical, his bacteriological and he's still over there, right? I'd like to see those written instructions.

Wow.

I don't remember any of this. But I was probably 14 or so, and not paying attention to politics.