Wikileaks Posts Entire Secret Trade Deals OnLine - Liberals Stroking Out

[presence]

Molon Labe, assenholes. -me, for Presence because "[he's] running out of room on [his] signature line."

 

[pcosmar]

I think that the word is just currently being coopted by socialists who don't like private property and business in general.

Co-opted?
It has been the rule since before I was born.

Most of the world is Socialist (including the US),, save for a few pockets that are still ruled by tribalism. And those are under attack.

 

[AuH20]

Co-opted?
It has been the rule since before I was born.

Most of the world is Socialist (including the US),, save for a few pockets that are still ruled by tribalism. And those are under attack.

It's essentially the same junk repackaged with a patriotic exterior.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

That doesn't sound too bad.

I'm all for privatizing industries and taking Government out of the picture so long as one group doesn't have a monopoly, like the Federal Reserve.

True. The treaty could actually be a good thing. The main concern would be the one Angela voices: the possibility of power centralization. The last thing humanity needs is a global gov't, even if said global gov't reduces tariffs and outlaws licensing restrictions. Then we end up with a freer market in hair care, but nowhere to run the next genocide season that rolls around. We need more and smaller polities. More decentralization, not more centralization.

 

[pcosmar]

It's essentially the same junk repackaged with a patriotic exterior.

Except,,
what was once a "civil" socialism is becoming National Socialism.

and we have seen the ugly fruits of that.

 

[osan]

OBAMATRADE SUPPORT FALLING APART IN HOUSE DESPITE LEADERSHIP PUSH

Sounds great, on the surface.

I would direct your thoughts, however, back to Christmas 1912 when the Federal Reserve Act was pushed through, without a quorum.

If this is really that important to TPTB, expect some chicanery... perhaps a show-of-hands vote where "all in favor" will show three hands, and "all opposed" the rest, the vote being called "in favor and is passed". As some of you surely recall, this has happened before. Perhaps Bammy will simply whip out his Bammy-pen to scribble up a Bammy-Order. He appears fond of that method.

 

[Origanalist]

Sounds great, on the surface.

I would direct your thoughts, however, back to Christmas 1912 when the Federal Reserve Act was pushed through, without a quorum.

If this is really that important to TPTB, expect some chicanery... perhaps a show-of-hands vote where "all in favor" will show three hands, and "all opposed" the rest, the vote being called "in favor and is passed". As some of you surely recall, this has happened before. Perhaps Bammy will simply whip out his Bammy-pen to scribble up a Bammy-Order. He appears fond of that method.

It's close, and I expect the usual covering of one for another to get it through. Failing that some will metaphorically fall on their swords. All for the greater good........

 

[Origanalist]

Congress is being so secretive about Obamatrade that Congressional authorities are not only keeping the text of President Barack Obama’s various trade deals secret, they’re also keeping the log that lists which members of Congress went to go read the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) private as well.

But let's be hopeful this will end up being a good thing......

 

[presence]

Aside from a ban on open source software - what is in this treaty that wouldn't be considered a step to a free market?

increase drug patent monopolies; force gov't healthcare to pay for brand name drugs instead of generic
tax payers on the hook for ISDS fines for lawsuits pressed by foreign corps which private citizens couldn't previously invoke/claim
indefinite extensions of patents, especially IP and Pharma via "evergreening'
institute everything that was in CISPA; 3 strikes and no internet for downloading copyrighted content

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Wikileaks just published the Healtcare Annex to the TPP

https://wikileaks.org/tpp/healthcare/

 

[Pericles]

See the Maastricht Treaty. It started off in a similar manner and eventually the EU was created. I have no doubts that TPP is based on a similar strategy. First, weave global commerce together and then follow it up with the governmental coalescence.

Bingo - I'll just drop this here:

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