Why tonight's results are very positive

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Yeah It's never good to place last but in this instance it's not so bad being a close 4th. In a state like SC where it's largely Neo-Conservitive country that will Boo the golden rule and ignore massive infidelity. You have to concede that Ron Paul doesn't quite fit in. The big game changer in this primary was Romney being knocked off his horse, not being dubbed the de-facto nominee with a SC win. This is a positive for all Non-Romney candidates in-particular Ron Paul as the longer this race is in contention the more time we have to change minds and build steady support. Our growth is consistent we don't surge, we don't fall off cliffs like so many others have before us.

Going forward if we can win some states like Nevada and place in the top two consistently we have a chance at gaining momentum, taking this race all the way to the convention. That would have massive effect on the Republican party. If we garner a third or more of the delegates forcing a brokered convention with two candidates left say Gingrich and Romney. Ron suddenly would have a lot of leverage on both of them, changing their platforms in hopes of winning his delegates and thus the nomination. Can you say Fed audit?

I'm not ruling out Ron Paul winning the nomination because it's still VERY possible provided the economy takes a dive and inflation returns with a Fed QE3. This is not out of the question this is actually likely the way things are going right now, 2 months+ for these events to occur and still allow time for a Paul surge. Other than that happening or some other act outside our control falling in our favour I don't think we will influence enough sheeple locked into the 'matrix' to come out for Paul this year.

No matter what is said in the press right now this race is wide open, no Romney de-facto nominee talk. Right now you would've been hearing that the race was over and it was a Romney win. The longer this is drawn out and the establishment has to argue with Ron, the more people will see the truth. Don't lose faith in the cause, this isn't 100% about getting the oval office but changing minds, at least trying to stop tyranny's march. All we can be expected to do is give our all in this fight, the house of cards will fall regardless the issue is how will our nation reconstruct in the aftermath. Here and now the correct solutions are being given, the reasons behind the collapse. This is more important than anything thing anyone is doing outside this presidential race.
 
Romney losing bad was good, Paul, in my opinion needed atleast 3rd tho, especially losing to frothy, the press, if they even bother to mention Paul at all, will paint it as Santorum rising and Ron falling. I know, I know, after Florida we'll start doing well, problem is tho, at that point people might just be ready to say let's get our nominee (Romney) and start focusing on Obama, Ron might start to be viewed as the guy who's just holding the GOP back by refusing to quit and dragging the primaries on.
 
@Butchie, I think tonight that mold was broken and Romney is no longer going to be the presumed nominee. He's only getting 30% max which leaves 70% of the non-Romney vote to pick out of 3 men. When the non-Romney selection drops to 2 men here in the next month with Santorum dropping out (prediction). Now you have 70% split into 35%, 35% EACH being able to beat Romney. Without his media pals and his presumed nominee status he is beatable, Newt is still a hand grenade or ticking time bomb, in addition to having mass moral baggage which might not play well in later states. We can play this game if we dig and fight for every last delegate.
 
The longer this nomination process goes on, the better for the media. They wanted Gingrich to win today because it's good business for them, that's why they've pushed him hard this week. If Romney had of won by a lot, Gingrich and and maybe Santorum would have dropped out. Then it'd be Romney and Paul, so for the media, just Romney. Means less viewers then.
 
If Paul had placed third tonight, WE would have felt much better, but the MSM would have treated him the same, we should know that lesson by now. The big flick is, the race can't be said to be over. Santorum is still dropping out, Newt soon after that, then it's caucus 'mini-season' and Ron-vs-Mitt, when everything changes.
 
If Paul had placed third tonight, WE would have felt much better, but the MSM would have treated him the same, we should know that lesson by now. The big flick is, the race can't be said to be over. Santorum is still dropping out, Newt soon after that, then it's caucus 'mini-season' and Ron-vs-Mitt, when everything changes.

Newt isn't dropping out... The Establishment wants him as the Nominee.
 
The longer this nomination process goes on, the better for the media. They wanted Gingrich to win today because it's good business for them, that's why they've pushed him hard this week. If Romney had of won by a lot, Gingrich and and maybe Santorum would have dropped out. Then it'd be Romney and Paul, so for the media, just Romney. Means less viewers then.
Yeah it's good for the medias ratings but it's also GOLD for us as our ideas get out, we get to argue our position against their indefensible positions. So many people have been woken up by listening to Paul in these debates!! WINNING! Long haul guys, stop playing checkers play chess look a few moves out. I expect to still be around 4 years from now lol so when we quadruple our support again we're going to be the movement to beat, no BS.
 
I'm thrilled Romney didn't win! Rick Santorum was a one hit wonder and Newt's momentum will come to a screeching halt soon. The race is still on!!!
 
Before NH I expected a Romney win in SC and a poor showing for Ron. Ron outperformed my expectations for SC. The success in NH and the events leading up to today just got my hopes up. I think we forget that Ron Probably exceeded our SC expectations from two weeks ago.

We're on track. Romney and Gingrich are going to scrabble over the neo-con vote, Santorum will eventually drop out, and we can keep on building. Keep it up folks.
 
Yeah it's good for the medias ratings but it's also GOLD for us as our ideas get out, we get to argue our position against their indefensible positions. So many people have been woken up by listening to Paul in these debates!! WINNING! Long haul guys, stop playing checkers play chess look a few moves out. I expect to still be around 4 years from now lol so when we quadruple our support again we're going to be the movement to beat, no BS.

This is the point that many fail to get. Even though we may see a financial crisis and more wars, the system isn't going to just go poof. Even through all this we are still going to be voting, still converting people, still organizing ourselves. I'm 26 years old and will keep at this for another 50 years! People who are disappointed are looking for silver bullets and not looking at the bigger picture.
 
I think that Santorum will drop after FL (maybe sooner if pushed) and like TheLaserShadow said, Newt is a ticking time bomb. Romney and Paul are the only two candidates with organizations after FL. Can Ron win Nevada? I have no idea. I do know that the Grinch certainly can't. I expect Paul to do quite well after FL. I just pray that his supporters will continue to fund him with vigor.
 
Well, I guess the glass half full view is that Romney has already been spending major cash here in Florida, I guess in anticipation of a Newt victory in SC. They will certainly drain a lot of resources here, while Ron will be off working under the radar in more friendly territory.
 
I'm thrilled Romney didn't win! Rick Santorum was a one hit wonder and Newt's momentum will come to a screeching halt soon. The race is still on!!!

My thoughts exactly!!! More time to get the message out and build momentum. Game on!!
 
The end of the Romney Inevitablility March satisfies half of the objectives I had for SC, so call me half-satisfied.

That 13% is a FLOOR for RP support. That's the people who turned out despite total media blackout, despite RP's less than stellar performance during the first SC debate, despite the Gingrich/CNN psyop, despite the Colbert distraction, despite the sudden bail of Huntsman, and despite endorsements from Perry, Palin, and a number of other heavy hitters in the GOP and right side media, despite the false reporting on the open primary as closed.

They really went all in this time, and we still pulled a good chunk of the population. The only candidate we haven't beaten in 2 of 3 states so far is Romney, who is on his way down.
 
havox112 said:
Newt isn't dropping out... The Establishment wants him as the Nominee.

I agree 100%, Newt is going to be around for a while. I read about 4 months back that Mittens bought the GOPer's off in NV. We can't count on ME that's soclite O. Snow country. MO & CO should be 50/50 for Paul, but guaranteed no media except local. I'm in TN and most here are just as bad as SC, very Hawkish and wont listen to reason.

Americas last chance is burning a candle and it needs to be a bond fire. Signs on bridges, lamp post, everywhere to make up for the media blackout.
 
A state that boos the golden rule never had much in the way of sanity. Then again, I always thought the golden rule was to look both ways before crossing the street. A state full of jaywalkers.
 
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