Why the "Christian" Right will not vote for Ron Paul: A Theological Perspective

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Why the "Christian" Right will not vote for Ron Paul: A Theological Perspective

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A Theological View
Let me begin by stating that 99.9% of what passes for Christianity today is extremely dangerous; it actually contorts the true and central message of the gospel. Scripture warns that as time moves on there will be a great falling away from the truth. This is directed not to the world, but to the Church! I believe we are seeing that now. What follows is a Christian perspective: People have been bombarded with a truncated message centered on a “social gospel” (Martin Luther King for example) devoid of a sound hermeneutic. In the area of biblical interpretation, especially concerning eschatology, a Judaistic understanding has permeated modern theological studies affecting not only foreign affairs in relation to Israel, but also how the Church understands herself as the Bride of Christ. The reason the world hates Jesus Christ is precisely His exclusivity--that He alone is the only way of salvation (Acts 4:12), and that He alone is the Truth. It is not that Jesus has the truth, as if it was just another philosophy from which to choose through reason, or that one can simply identify with and then claim to know the way, but it is that He is the truth.

Our faith is not in faith, that is, how to utilize and exercise your faith, but our faith is in a person; it has an object. And it is not our faith that saves it is His faithfulness to us that saves. People will object by saying, but we have free will. I agree that you can turn right or turn left, but that is not what I am talking about. The Scriptures are very clear that our nature is fallen and dead in sin in Adam (from the Fall). So in relation to the gospel, man of his own free will can not choose Christ. He is spiritually dead. What actually occurs is that God the Holy Spirit regenerates a person, therefore, making him willing (truly free being born again) to take hold of Christ’s faithfulness. We are also kept by the power of God unto final glorification. This then naturally raises the question, illogically, that if once saved, always saved, then why not sin all you can? Who cares, you are saved.

But that is a total distortion of truth because when God reveals His love toward His children (adoption) they pursue holiness not sin. To some, God appears as a selfish power hungry tyrant demanding obedience and worship. But the truths of the Triune God’s demands upon His Creation are both astounding and marvelous. He told Abraham, “I am your great reward.” What does that mean? One of the greatest mysteries revealed in all of Scripture to a true child of God is that Christ is our supreme joy (Psalm 119; Song of Solomon). I have written in my Bible at the very front, “That He is, and who He is, well that’s enough to make one fall down and worship.” God knows that because He is Holy, Good, and Right, and that our greatest joy can be found only in Him. To know God, or rather to be known by Him (and this reality is only understood when one sees the depth of sin in his heart contrasted with the Holiness of God and His goodness, which results in true repentance) is the most blessed gift one can ever receive (grace).

To understand the magnificence of the cross and what the blood of Christ accomplishes for His redeemed, places one in the Holy of Holies. Now, what has all this to do with Ron Paul? The great fear from many “Christian” right evangelicals (actually Christian Zionists along with Zionist Jews), and again I refer you to my first sentence, is Ron Paul’s policy in regard to removing troops from Iraq and or not sending them to Iran, and ending $ to Israel. Why? Protection of Israel. Here is who is running our Govt. http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/bushlist.htm

I am not anti-semetic. Jews, as well as any other human being must be saved in and through the faith of Christ. This idea that the United States would become the New Jerusalem, a city upon a hill, was first put forth by John Winthrop in 1630 concerning New England when he stated “…the Lord will be our God and delight to dwell among us, as his owne people and will commaund a blessing upon us in all our wayes, soe that wee shall see much more of his wisdome power goodnes and truthe then formerly wee have beene acquainted with, wee shall finde that the God of Israell is among us, when tenn of us shall be able to resist a thousand of our enemies, when hee shall make us a prayse and glory, that men shall say of succeeding plantacions: the lord make it like that of New England: for wee must Consider that wee shall be as a Citty upon a Hill, the eies of all people are uppon us; soe that if wee shall deale falsely with our god in this worke wee have undertaken and soe cause him to withdrawe his present help from us, wee shall be made a story and a byword through the world, wee shall open the mouthes of enemies to speake evill of the wayes of god and all professours for Gods sake….” This theme has been with us since then.

The problem is that it was further distorted by J.N. Darby and the Scofield Bible (late 1800’s). Dallas Theological Seminary was a huge proponent of what is called Dispensationalism (this is a relatively new interpretation; late 1800’s). There are many facets to it but, its main emphasis is that when Jesus returns he will establish a physical Kingdom in Jerusalem and the Jews with Jesus will reign for 1000 years. Dispensationalism., at this point, has several views concerning a Rapture (Pre-Trib and Post-Trib) where the Church will be taken out either before or after the great battle. The Biblical Historic Christian view is known as:

Amillennialism
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Amillennialism (Latin: a- "not" + mille "thousand" + annum "year") is a view in Christian eschatology named for its denial of a future, thousand-year, physical reign of Jesus Christ on the earth, as espoused in the premillennial and some postmillennial views of the Book of Revelation, chapter 20 By contrast, the amillennial view holds that the number of years in Revelation 20 is a symbolic number, not a literal description; that the millennium has already begun and is identical with the church age (or more rarely, that it ended with the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70); and that while Christ's reign is spiritual in nature during the millennium, at the end of the church age, Christ will return in final judgment and establish permanent physical reign.


This is why the land itself is always being fought over. They believe that Jerusalem will be the center of Jewish govt. during the 1000 years. There is much more to this but suffice it to say that this is the reason for our foreign policy the way it is. It is promoted by Zionist Jews and Zionist “Christians.” Sadly, many “Christians” today hold to these unbiblical views. It is actually Judaism in disguise. You now can see clearly why there is a huge fear of Ron Paul by the establishment. The Zionist Jews who control the govt., Hollywood, the banking cartel, the gold, and the elections will not have this man to be the President of the United States. Period. I pray to God that we can begin to change that, that the Gospel will open the eyes of the people who have been duped by this propaganda attack on their lives and liberties. But I must end with this. There is only one Kingdom that will endure. There is only one Kingdom whose ultimate allegiance one must submit to, that Kingdom being the one already spiritually set up by Our Lord Jesus Christ, a Kingdom not of this world. There is true freedom only in Christ.

Al Mohler (President of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) states that Gov. Huckabee’s victory can be directly traced to the huge numbers of evangelicals who turned out in Iowa. The rhetoric of the race—and the rhetoric of many evangelicals is disturbing. This race is important, but evangelicals have invested far too much hope in the political process. No government can make people good, transform humanity, or eliminate sin. The political sphere is important, but never ultimate. Jesus Christ is Lord regardless of who sits in the Oval Office. This race offers evangelical “Christians” (my quotation marks) an opportunity to mature and rethink their model of political engagement (end of Mohler’s comment). We are to pursue those things which are right and good. The natural man cannot discern the things of the Spirit, yet it is not my intention to cause division but to unite us in this great quest for reestablishing our Constitutional Republic. May the Lord bless each one of you, may He grant the Peace of Christ to Ron Paul and his family. Remember, the media is part of this Neocon and Global control to thwart truth.


2Co 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
2Co 10:4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds;
2Co 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ
I heartily welcome your critical feedback. Thank you, Chip.
NOTE: This is not a comprehensive analysis of these issues but a simple overview. The following articles will be very helpful for further study:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Kincaid/cliff197.htm

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin421.htm

http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd333.htm

http://www.newswithviews.com/Duke/selwyn79.htm

http://www.cfr.org/publication/14335/

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit.../21/2003294021

http://www.newswithviews.com/Schwiesow/jim37.htm

http://www.nationalexpositor.com/print/840.html

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig9/cohen1.html

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/print.php?newid=72331
 
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Why the "Christian" Right will not vote for Ron Paul: A Theological Perspective

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A Theological View
Let me begin by stating that 99.9% of what passes for Christianity today is extremely dangerous; .......................................


You are confusing ammils with Dispensationalism. In either case the views described are not held by most Christians.
 
Rather than try to argue against support of Israel itself with Christians, I argue as follows:

Christian Neocon: But Ron Paul does not want to defend Israel. The Bible says that those who bless Israel will be blessed, and those who curse Israel will be cursed.

Me: The Bible also says to help the poor. Do you believe that is also the US government's job?

Christian Neocon: No, the Bible is talking about individuals.

Me: Right, so why do you assume the Bible is talking about the US gov when it says to bless Israel?

Christian Neocon: No answer.

Me: Ron Paul has no problem with you sending your own money to the Israeli government or volunteering for the Israeli army, if that is what you believe the Gospel calls you to do. But he will not steal from other taxpayers, or draft other peoples' children, to support your theology about Israel, just as he will not steal from you to support the poor.
 
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