Why The Atheists Fight

[LittleLightShining]

I agree. I haven't seen anything to suggest otherwise. When we get past all the attacks and stereotypes of Christians on this board, there is no evidence to suggest that it is the norm of Christians to not vote for an atheist. People can say they won't vote for one all they want, but we all know saying something is one thing, doing something is what counts. I can specifically speak for Catholics on this, and as a whole, they don't really care.

Yep. I think there aren't so many really radically fundamental Christians in America as there seem to be.

 

[burningfur]

I know many of you are a religious people. I've expressed my feelings quite clearly, and if anything, you know I am eminently willing to defend my position, something that men who fight for liberty and freedom must be able to do. I have nothing against the believer. My thinking you are wrong is not a pronouncement of who or what you are, and my questioning and debating comes from a discussion of the facts and observations of politics and public cultural policy.

I think it is important that some of you take off your blinders for a second and look at the world from a different viewpoint. I'm not asking you to give up God, I'm asking you to imagine you were on our side of the fence, just for a moment.

I don't believe in conspiracies, and I don't really travel too far on the either side of the political spectrum. I do however think there is a concentrated effort to diminish religious freedom in this country, a subversion that has promised to wipe out all tolerance of non-believers or non-Christians.

Consider this piece. Written today.

Is this what you desire? This is what "Conservatives" are pushing. A bigotry and an offensive revision of history that undermines other people's freedoms. Is it that you agree that you refuse to fight this as well? or is it because you don't consider that a freedom or a natural right?

Medved goes so far as to declare a national church.

"As Constitutional scholars all point out, the Presidency uniquely combines the two functions of head of government (like the British Prime Minister) and head of state (like the Queen of England). POTUS not only appoints cabinet members and shapes foreign policy and delivers addresses to Congress, but also presides over solemn and ceremonial occasions. Just as the Queen plays a formal role as head of the Church of England, the President functions as head of the “Church of America” – that informal, tolerant but profoundly important civic religion that dominates all our national holidays and historic milestones. For instance, try to imagine an atheist president issuing the annual Thanksgiving proclamation. To whom would he extend thanks in the name of his grateful nation –-the Indians in Massachusetts?"


This is article is not unique, it is an everyday thing among the growing conservatives and theocratic media outlets. The Heritage Foundation (Townhall is the news outlet of Heritage) Worldnet Daily, The Discovery Institute, and the Culture and Media Institute among others. These organizations are massive, and they machines of revisionism and propaganda.

Can you now for a second, just imagine an OP piece that says that we should strong resist a Christian from being President?

Who is more blind? I would never in all my life say that, even if myself am a non-believer. Why is this form of bigotry acceptable?
Why is it so prevalent on these forums?

A Democrat Illinois State Senator recently just spouted to Atheist Rob Sherman during a court hearing:

"What you have to spew and spread is extremely dangerous . . . it's dangerous for our children to even know that your philosophy exists!

"This is the Land of Lincoln where people believe in God," Davis said. "Get out of that seat . . . You have no right to be here! We believe in something. You believe in destroying! You believe in destroying what this state was built upon."


I support Ron Paul because I don't believe he would find this acceptable. I bring up these issues because they matter, and most of you take offense, as if I were insulting your religion.

The truth is that you are blind and intolerant. You allow your fellow believers to stomp all over the rights and liberties of others because you too don't apply the same principles you stand for...

I think it is a shame. And it is relevant to the conversation and the movement.

Over 40% of people my age, between 18-29 are non-believers. We are growing. This country is going to be inherited by us, and between all the things we debate about most, there is nothing more pressing and disturbing then the persecution of non-religion over religion.

I have worked hard, as a grassroots organizer and youth leader, to maintain civility and tolerance on my side. You VERY rarely hear of the growing crowds of non-believers turning violent, writing hate speech, or saying that Christians don't belong here, or that this is a "Atheist Nation".

We have engaged the system the way it was meant to be engaged. Through debate, through forums, through media, through conversation.

This appeal to the emotional impotence of the masses from these corporations and organizations, on the backs of most of you, who stand idly by, is a disgrace.

That is why we fight. That is why we are here.

Friend, Patriot, brother who, despite differing worldviews, I might one day stand beside in another revolutionary war.

I understand your position, I see where you're coming from.

Of course, from my position, I could argue the counter-point.

You may say that there are some media organizations that are anti-Atheistic, but this is nothing compared to the vast recruiting grounds called the public education system, where specifically one viewpoint is taught, secular humanism. Later on, in college, while tolerance is "upheld", it is intolerant to say that there is one way to God, through Christ alone. People who believe otherwise should read the book University of Destruction by David Wheaton.

In all reality, I (or any one of my Christian peers) could go back and forth with you (and any one of your Atheist peers) on who is trying to subvert the country towards the left or towards the right, but in reality, the giant rightwing and the giant leftwing are just playing shell games while basic freedoms, guaranteed from our Creator (my opinion, not yours) are being snatched right out from under us.

Right now, the underpinnings of sound government set up by orthodox Christians (again my opinion) are being rapidly destroyed, that is why I will vote for Ron Paul, the only guy who has a clue about the Constitution and why it is so gal-dang important.

One last point, the reason the Atheists on this board and the Christians have a difficult time communicating is simply because we are speaking two different languages. In all honesty, it appears the only time we're united is when we're talking about the election and how much we don't like McCain. I think we all have a mutual interest in NOT being drafted.

Okay, finally finally finally, about whether or not Christians would vote for Atheist. When are you guys going to realize that just because someone says a prayer, says hallejugha a few times and gets baptized does not mean they're Christians. Only God is going to separate the wheat from the tares, sheep from the goats, you get the idea, it is not wise to apply a stereotype to people who simply aren't real Christians.

Heck, even Hillary is a baptist, does that make her a Christian?

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

The Atheist argument is just foolish

I know many of you are a religious people. I've expressed my feelings quite clearly, and if anything, you know I am eminently willing to defend my position, something that men who fight for liberty and freedom must be able to do. I have nothing against the believer. My thinking you are wrong is not a pronouncement of who or what you are, and my questioning and debating comes from a discussion of the facts and observations of politics and public cultural policy.

I think it is important that some of you take off your blinders for a second and look at the world from a different viewpoint. I'm not asking you to give up God, I'm asking you to imagine you were on our side of the fence, just for a moment.

I don't believe in conspiracies, and I don't really travel too far on the either side of the political spectrum. I do however think there is a concentrated effort to diminish religious freedom in this country, a subversion that has promised to wipe out all tolerance of non-believers or non-Christians.

Consider this piece. Written today.

Is this what you desire? This is what "Conservatives" are pushing. A bigotry and an offensive revision of history that undermines other people's freedoms. Is it that you agree that you refuse to fight this as well? or is it because you don't consider that a freedom or a natural right?

Medved goes so far as to declare a national church.

"As Constitutional scholars all point out, the Presidency uniquely combines the two functions of head of government (like the British Prime Minister) and head of state (like the Queen of England). POTUS not only appoints cabinet members and shapes foreign policy and delivers addresses to Congress, but also presides over solemn and ceremonial occasions. Just as the Queen plays a formal role as head of the Church of England, the President functions as head of the “Church of America” – that informal, tolerant but profoundly important civic religion that dominates all our national holidays and historic milestones. For instance, try to imagine an atheist president issuing the annual Thanksgiving proclamation. To whom would he extend thanks in the name of his grateful nation –-the Indians in Massachusetts?"


This is article is not unique, it is an everyday thing among the growing conservatives and theocratic media outlets. The Heritage Foundation (Townhall is the news outlet of Heritage) Worldnet Daily, The Discovery Institute, and the Culture and Media Institute among others. These organizations are massive, and they machines of revisionism and propaganda.

Can you now for a second, just imagine an OP piece that says that we should strong resist a Christian from being President?

Who is more blind? I would never in all my life say that, even if myself am a non-believer. Why is this form of bigotry acceptable?
Why is it so prevalent on these forums?

A Democrat Illinois State Senator recently just spouted to Atheist Rob Sherman during a court hearing:

"What you have to spew and spread is extremely dangerous . . . it's dangerous for our children to even know that your philosophy exists!

"This is the Land of Lincoln where people believe in God," Davis said. "Get out of that seat . . . You have no right to be here! We believe in something. You believe in destroying! You believe in destroying what this state was built upon."


I support Ron Paul because I don't believe he would find this acceptable. I bring up these issues because they matter, and most of you take offense, as if I were insulting your religion.

The truth is that you are blind and intolerant. You allow your fellow believers to stomp all over the rights and liberties of others because you too don't apply the same principles you stand for...

I think it is a shame. And it is relevant to the conversation and the movement.

Over 40% of people my age, between 18-29 are non-believers. We are growing. This country is going to be inherited by us, and between all the things we debate about most, there is nothing more pressing and disturbing then the persecution of non-religion over religion.

I have worked hard, as a grassroots organizer and youth leader, to maintain civility and tolerance on my side. You VERY rarely hear of the growing crowds of non-believers turning violent, writing hate speech, or saying that Christians don't belong here, or that this is a "Atheist Nation".

We have engaged the system the way it was meant to be engaged. Through debate, through forums, through media, through conversation.

This appeal to the emotional impotence of the masses from these corporations and organizations, on the backs of most of you, who stand idly by, is a disgrace.

That is why we fight. That is why we are here.

Is an atheist just someone who refuses to listen or someone who refuses to listen to silliness? Before an atheist can think of Christianity as silly, they first have to know it extremely well as a faith. This knowledge of the opposition would require the atheist to go through the whole process of original conversion, later baptism, extensive prayer and reading of scripture.
Do atheists incorporate religion into their lives? Christians have to incorporate a certain amount of atheism and impiety in order to teach their children how to learn to narrow down their thought from the mythical godhooods of the past to that of Jesus Christ Himself as the Holy (Dialectical) Trinity. As I have already mentioned, some Protestant Christians have faith in the Word of God written in the bible; while, Catholic Christians religiously practice rituals and laws created by men who represent the authority of God. The latter Christian would tend to be more religious.
This need for the opposition to be presented with integrity is why the protagonist in novels is only as deep and realistic as the antagonistic character or characters who challenge him or her. This is also why authors with great arguments will be appreciative of the intelligence in opposing theories.

 

[JaylieWoW]

I just wanted to make a comment, because statistics like these always amuse the hell out of me. As a 19 yo, I can assure you that the vast majority of people who are atheist or don't have any use/need for religion, don't do so out of some philosophical reason. (ie, 99% of those people aren't prepared to make a philosophical justification for their beliefs.) It's born out of the same apathy that dominates my generation when it comes to political matters or any issue at all. No one gives a crap, about anything. Literally, there exists nothing, except for the walls that surround us. (No outside world, if you will.)

For the record, I could care less whether people chose to be theist, deist, atheist, agnostic, so on, so there's no sides to be had in my argument. I'm also willing to say that yes, most religion believers also lack the ability to define their faith.

Haven't gone through all the responses yet but I have to agree very strongly with this statement since it very much defines my life up until I got married. Experiences are what changed me, or rather I should say, focused the way I reacted to life.

 

[Theocrat]

Tough Love and Hard Truth

I mean, just look at this page that has Gallup polls:

http://atheism.about.com/od/atheistbigotryprejudice/a/AtheistSurveys.htm

I think people here need to realize the actual bigotry involved in Christian choices for candidates; you're living in a fantasy world if you think "most" Christians would vote for someone who does not believe in their God.

Thanks for the poll, sophocles07. It is quite interesting that most Americans have a distrust for "atheists," especially in offices of government, but I am among those Americans, so it makes sense to me.

In passing, let me just say that it's refreshing to know that there is still a remnant of freedom-loving, Constitutionally-savvy Americans that exists in this country, even if some of them are indeed "atheists." What disturbs me is the ignorance of many of my Christian brothers and sisters in the Church who are quite ignorant of constitutional principles in limited government. As many other Christians can attest to on these forums, it is such a challenge to engage and persuade the average evangelical Christian to understand the principles and philosophies which makes for a sound government, even those prescribed by Congressman Paul. Sadly, the American Church is too much into "boogeyman" tactics where they will elect anyone (except Dr. Paul, ironically) with an "R" after his name, just as long as it's not a Democrat. This is simply immature and lazy on their part (See Pastor Baldwin's recent article here for more insight on that.).

Yet, as a Christian, I simply cannot in good conscience vote for evil, let alone the lesser of two evils. To me, voting for an "atheist" is evil because he fundamentally denies the very God which has blessed these United States for some 200+ years and to Whom I worship and owe my love and obedience. God never tells us to vote for evil, but He does instruct us to "provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness (Exodus 18:21 - emphasis mine)..." Some of you may find this offensive or just blatantly disagree with it, but my allegiance is to God first, then man, and both God's word and my conscience guide me. I only wish to return to the principles which made America great in the first place, and, like Congressman Paul, I respect many of the admonitions of our Founding Fathers concerning the preservation of our constitutional republic, these United States.

If we are to have the rule of law returned to our government, then at some point, we must recognize Who is at the root of law itself. If we don't, then our republic will perish under subjective, humanistic, naturalistic philosophies of government which ever pervaded such Communistic/Socialistic nations of history past. "Atheists" today may fight side-by-side with Christians for freedom and liberty for all, but eventually, when it's all said and done, and when policies and laws need to be enacted upon society, there will be some "bloodshed" (metaphorically speaking) because some group will be left out at the expense of the other in public policy decisions. This is just the nature of politics in our so-called "lab of democracy."

My point is that it will inevitably come to a point where we have discern who decides what laws should be enacted and whether those laws are good in preserving God-given rights. Do we decide based on utilitarianism, egalitarianism, pluralism, or rationalism? Do we begin with the Bible? Do we assume humans are just products of random chance? These questions are paramount to solving the complexities of establishing, reforming, and maintaining the true articles in which our republic was formed and has been preserved. I don't believe the faith system of "Atheism" provides cogent, objective, and universal answers to these problems. Liberty and freedom do not justify themselves, but they only come from the blessings of a sovereign, loving, and merciful God, contingent upon our obedience and acknowledgment of Him as Lord, King, and Savior. An "atheist" cannot and will never do this; therefore, I cannot and never will vote for an "atheist."

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. In the words of the German Protestant reformer Martin Luther, "Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me."

 

[sophocles07]

To me, voting for an "atheist" is evil because he fundamentally denies the very God which has blessed these United States for some 200+ years and to Whom I worship and owe my love and obedience.

Oh my god you fucking rock.

 

[Hiki]

Oh my god you fucking rock.

Almost choked on my bread

But I mean if you ask any atheist around the world if they agree on some universal moral standards, then I'm sure that the answer will be yes. Such standards would be for example "Do not kill" and "Do not steal". There are some moral standards which apply everybody. And you cant say that those are Christian morals (aka. The Ten Commandments) because those exist all around the world and existed long before Christianity was even founded. If you look up Gilgamesh or the Egyptian Book of the Dead you'll find those among many others in there. Killing and stealing is something that when allowed, a society would not work.

Of course there are then morals which belong to a certain culture. For example in traditional Islam countries, like Iran, they still do some horrific stuff to people. Like once they stoned to death two teenagers who were dating, once they whipped a woman because she was raped while being in the company of non-relative men. I find this terrible but the only thing I can do is state my opinion. It's their culture, I cant go into Iran and tell them that they are doing wrong and that their habits must be changed. And neither can they come here and tell us to install the Sharia-law.

And now here in Finland homosexuality is of course a hard issue for the church. They are now debating about it, whether to allow gay couples and gay priests. And they are actually asking science what homosexuality is all about. I just cant understand what is wrong in homosexuality and why it's so hard for the church. Oh yes, an ancient book says that gays are not ok.

 

[hypnagogue]

*yawn* Yet another 17 page thread of Atheists vs Christians. Is anyone satisfied?

No? Well... we'll just wait a couple days and start another one, shall we? 11th time's the charm.

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

This issue always attracts naive people

Oh my god you fucking rock.

The whole notion that traditional religion, newfound atheism and science have a problem with each other is not supported by history. This is why professors of the philosophy of religion generally have to spend most of the course load trying to convince combative young students that the religions of Islam and Christianity actually gave birth to modern science. It was given the name "natural philosophy" as apposed to the spiritual while natural philosophers themselves had to be members of the clergy.

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Atheism does not have a long history nor a tradition

*yawn* Yet another 17 page thread of Atheists vs Christians. Is anyone satisfied?

No? Well... we'll just wait a couple days and start another one, shall we? 11th time's the charm.

Trying to guess the closet atheists in history is the only way to revise a tradition of atheism. Aside from this kind of revisioning, the only other clear atheists in history that I know about were the Scythians. They were so brutal that they would scalp their dead enemy like animals so they could sew clothing out of them.

 

[Kade]

Trying to guess the closet atheists in history is the only way to revise a tradition of atheism. Aside from this kind of revisioning, the only other clear atheists in history that I know about were the Scythians. They were so brutal that they would scalp their dead enemy like animals so they could sew clothing out of them.

The first thinking humans were atheists.
We are all born atheists.
We've existed in every generation, in every great period, and were the great thinkers and revolutionaries of the past. I could list an atheist from every generation, and well before Christianity (Aristophanes, Diogenes, Aristotle, Lucretius).

I don't know where you get your information from, but you seem to counter the point that this culture teaches "secular humanism" to it's kids.

 

[yongrel]

If we're argue about the history of atheism...

all babies are atheists.

 

[Mach]

Thaaaaaaaaatan!

*yawn* Yet another 17 page thread of Atheists vs Christians. Is anyone satisfied?

No? Well... we'll just wait a couple days and start another one, shall we? 11th time's the charm.

Hey, you never know, maybe there were people out there praying for the 11th time! They know the next one is going to be.... THE ONE!


Perspective is Key!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M


Make sure to listen closely to the last 20 seconds in this video!

One of my all time favorites.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47EBLD-ISyc
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[Dr.3D]

If we're argue about the history of atheism...

all babies are atheists.

Of course, all babies are uninformed too.

 

[yongrel]

Of course, all babies are uninformed too.

Well played, sir.

The point I was trying to make is that the natural state of the human mind is without a belief in a higher power. Babies are born godless and have to be taught to believe.

 

[Eric21ND]

Ron Paul already has the atheist vote locked up! Even on this board

 

[Kade]

Ron Paul already has the atheist vote locked up! Even on this board

Some here are advocating that he shouldn't. On this board he does, but I can tell you that some of his supporters scare the living shit out of us, to the point of abject fear.

And no, not all atheists support Ron Paul, I would say about half, and dropping.

I can't speak for all atheists in this country, but I am a very well respected youth leader and organizer. That the Secular Student Alliance, Atheist Alliance International, and other organizations have not endorsed a candidate yet is not an accident.

 

[yongrel]

Some here are advocating that he shouldn't. On this board he does, but I can tell you that some of his supporters scare the living shit out of us, to the point of abject fear.

And no, not all atheists support Ron Paul, I would say about half, and dropping.

I can't speak for all atheists in this country, but I am a very well respected youth leader and organizer. That the Secular Student Alliance, Atheist Alliance International, and other organizations have not endorsed a candidate yet is not an accident.

Atheists are disproportionately represented in libertarian circles for obvious reasons, but I think most atheists tend to vote Democrat.

 

[Mach]

Some "famous" people...........

"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires."
-- Susan B. Anthony 1896


I read about an Eskimo hunter who asked the local missionary priest, ‘If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?’ ‘No,’ said the priest, ‘not if you did not know.’ ‘Then why,’ asked the Eskimo earnestly, ‘did you tell me?’
- Annie Dillard


"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger


"The idea that God is an oversized white male with a flowing beard who sits in the sky and tallies the fall of every sparrow is ludicrous. But if by 'God' one means the set of physical laws that govern the universe, then clearly there is such a God. This God is emotionally unsatisfying... it does not make much sense to pray to the law of gravity."
-- Carl Sagan


"If Jesus had been killed 20 years ago, Catholic school children would be wearing little Electric Chairs around their necks instead of crosses"
-- Lenny Bruce


"Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer."
-- Me


"Man is certainly stark mad; he cannot make a worm, yet he will make gods by the dozen."
—- Michel de Montaigne


"Ethical people will do what is right, no matter what they are told. Religious people will do what they are told, no matter what is right." —- unknown


"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."
—- Denis Diderot (1713-1784)


"Those who get instructions directly from the Almighty are twice blessed. They get their orders from the Highest Authority, and the orders are always to do what they would have done anyway."
— Harley Sorensen



"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool."
—- Voltaire


A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
-- Edward R. Murrow


"You can tell you have created God in your own image when it turns out that he or she hates all the same people you do."
-- Anne Lamott


"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning."
-- Calvin, "Calvin & Hobbes"


"The Bible tells us to be like God, and then on page after page it describes God as a mass murderer. This may be the single most important key to the political behavior of Western Civilization."
-- Robert Anton Wilson


"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ"
-- Mahatma Gandhi (Damn Straight!)


"A government cannot be premised on the belief that all persons are created equal when it asserts that God prefers some"
-- Harry Blackmun


"There was a time when religion ruled the world.
It is known as the dark ages."
-- Ruth Hermence Green


"When I was a kid, I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord, in his wisdom, didn't work that way. So I stole one, and asked him to forgive me."
-- Emo Philips


No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up.
-- Lily Tomlin


Men rarely (if ever) dream up a god superior to themselves. Most gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child."
-- Robert Heinlein


So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence.
-- Bertrand Russell


So Dubya goes to war because god told him to.
There's a woman down in Texas who bashed in her kid's skulls for the same reason.
-- Ed Krebs


"I myself feel that our country, for whose Constitution I fought in a just war, might as well have been invaded by Martians and body snatchers. Sometimes I wish it had been. What has happened, though, is that it has been taken over by means of the sleaziest, low-comedy, Keystone Cops-style coup d’etat imaginable.
And those now in charge of the federal government are upper-crust C-students who know no history or geography, plus not-so-closeted white supremacists, aka "Christians," and plus, most frighteningly, psychopathic personalities."
-- Kurt Vonnegut, January, 2003


"Religion is a byproduct of fear. For much of human history, it may have been a necessary evil, but why was it more evil than necessary? Isn't killing people in the name of God a pretty good definition of insanity?"
-- Arthur C. Clarke


"Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet."
-- Napoleon Bonaparte


"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."
-- Napoleon Bonaparte


"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit. "
-- Thomas Paine


"I would like to thank Providence and the Almighty for choosing me of all people to be allowed to wage this battle for Germany"
-- Adolf Hitler - Berlin, March 1936


“It is an interesting and demonstrable fact, that all children are atheists and were religion not inculcated into their minds, they would remain so.”
-- Ernestine Rose


The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree... yeah, makes perfect sense.
-- unknown


"The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real estate they own."
-- Frank Zappa


Insanity in individuals is something rare; but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs it is the rule.
- Nietzsche


If you talk to God, you are praying. If God talks to you, you have schizophrenia.
- Thomas Szasz


The same people that wrote the bible thought the world was flat.
-- Me


Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear, kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor, with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it.
- General Douglas MacArthur


"Physics is not a religion. If it were, we'd have a much easier time raising money."
-- Leon Lederman


"Between science and God, I'll stick with God if the two are in conflict."
-- Republican Candidate Mike Huckabee


"You believe in a book that has talking animal, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that we are the ones that need help."
-- Dan Barker


I had a student ask me, "Could the savior you believe in save Osama bin Laden?" Of course. We know the blood of Jesus Christ can save him, and then he must be executed.
-- Rev. Jerry Falwell


We're going to bring back God and the Bible and drive the gods of secular humanism right out of the public schools of America.
--Pat Buchanan, at an anti-gay rally in Des Moines, Iowa, February 11, 1996
"If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities."
- Voltaire


"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism."
- Einstein]


"Faith means not wanting to know what is true."
- Nietzsche


"I cannot believe in the immortality of the soul.... No, all this talk of an existence for us, as individuals, beyond the grave is wrong. It is born of our tenacity of life – our desire to go on living … our dread of coming to an end."
- Edison
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[Kade]

Atheists are disproportionately represented in libertarian circles for obvious reasons, but I think most atheists tend to vote Democrat.

Indeed, we will not vote for Bob Barr, and Ron Paul refuses to give up the GOP status. I think a larger percentage of atheists will go Democrat this year, if not also to counter the Christian Rights influence in the government.