Why so few Christians joining fight against The Mark?

And you saw that as the perfect opportunity to lump all Christians together into a single "moron" and begin making collective batshit out of them.

Sorry bub, but you are a prejudiced collectivist pig. like it or lump it.

I think you just added yourself to that collective batshit. Resorting to defining your opponent in debate fixes the problem, or so I've been told.

Beware the mighty and powerful collectivist pigs of America!

Right... I don't even know what that means.
 
many christians dont belive it is a mark as the op stated. i beleive the "mark" is symbolic as in those who dont belive in god are "marked". Ehhhh, we all beleive different, but i dont want the card anyhow as i think it is just another form for our government to try and controll us all.
 
many christians dont belive it is a mark as the op stated. i beleive the "mark" is symbolic as in those who dont belive in god are "marked". Ehhhh, we all beleive different, but i dont want the card anyhow as i think it is just another form for our government to try and controll us all.

I wonder about people who believe that they will enjoy paradise while the whole of humanity wallows in eternal torment.
 
I think you just added yourself to that collective batshit. Resorting to defining your opponent in debate fixes the problem, or so I've been told.

Beware the mighty and powerful collectivist pigs of America!

Right... I don't even know what that means.

Well judging by the fact that you are a collectivist lump of hate, then I would feel left out if not for being hated by the likes of you. Now go off and wallow in your steaming pile of hatefulness. Seems awfully appropriate anyway.
 
Well judging by the fact that you are a collectivist lump of hate, then I would feel left out if not for being hated by the likes of you. Now go off and wallow in your steaming pile of hatefulness. Seems awfully appropriate anyway.

Wait, is this one of those games we play, where we go back and forth until someone says "pwn3d?!"

I'm sorry for interrupting, please, tell me more about your spiritual skyfather, and correct my false misgivings. I don't want to suffer the softening blow of a characterization that I'm sure you could paint yourself in... another type of steaming pile I imagine.
 
And you saw that as the perfect opportunity to lump all Christians together into a single "moron" and begin making collective batshit out of them.

Sorry bub, but you are a prejudiced collectivist pig. like it or lump it.

And Christians don't call this on by joining a GROUP called the CHRISTIANS? They're asking for it; especially when they discuss literal marks of the beast (METAPHOR, mofos, read up on some ARISTOTLE) for three pages in a serious tone.
 
The reality is that this existence is much like a seed. We are seeds planted into a temporal soil called "the universe." Some seeds die and become a part of the soil, while some seeds sprout and become creatures of eternity. The conditions that bring about the sprouting of the seed, are the absorption of nutrients and water. The nutrients are truth, and the water is faith.

Hostility is irrelevant, and ignorance is comfortable.

For as much as you detest the contempt that the sheeple hold for those awakened to reality, I am amazed at the level of contempt that you hold for those awakened to the eternal realm.

I assure you that those of us who have been awakened to an awareness of the eternal realm, find you as pitiful and as asleep as you find the FauxNews Sheeple.

What you do not comprehend, and will be unable to envision, is that when we have been awakened to the realm of eternity, we percieve it as clearly as you percieve the material world around you. While there are many nominal Christians (maybe better than half) who remain asleep and simply act from groupthink, those of us who are awake can no more deny the reality of what we percieve any more than you can deny the rocks and the trees and the buildings and the seas around you.
 
They believe they can simply relax and do nothing, because Jesus is going to intervene.

Failing to do what you know is right, is as much of a sin as actually doing what you know is wrong. Those who believe that they have no need of acting in the face of necessary action, are deceiving themselves.
 
And Christians don't call this on by joining a GROUP called the CHRISTIANS? They're asking for it; especially when they discuss literal marks of the beast (METAPHOR, mofos, read up on some ARISTOTLE) for three pages in a serious tone.

pure collectivist claptrap. You just used the same argument against Christians, that the Neo-cons use against "Paultards." How does it feel on the other side of the "ignorant collectivist" glass wall?
 
pure collectivist claptrap. You just used the same argument against Christians, that the Neo-cons use against "Paultards." How does it feel on the other side of the "ignorant collectivist" glass wall?

I've never seen Ron Paul supporters make a religion based in his image. We talk about his ideas--all of which support FREE THOUGHT. That's the opposite of collectivism.

A religion which bases itself in a few tenets is the opposite of individualism. It is, I JOIN THE FAITH; not, I THINK FOR MYSELF.
 
Wait, is this one of those games we play, where we go back and forth until someone says "pwn3d?!"

I'm sorry to dissapoint, I may not pull any punches or disguise my true feelings, but I am not by any means a juvenile bent on superficial domination by means of wordgames or empty rhetoric.

I'm sorry for interrupting, please, tell me more about your spiritual skyfather, and correct my false misgivings. I don't want to suffer the softening blow of a characterization that I'm sure you could paint yourself in... another type of steaming pile I imagine.

If I thought the request was genuine, and if I were blind to thick dripping syrup of sarcasm oozing from your statement, I might actually feel obliged to humor you.
 
I've never seen Ron Paul supporters make a religion based in his image. We talk about his ideas--all of which support FREE THOUGHT. That's the opposite of collectivism.

A religion which bases itself in a few tenets is the opposite of individualism. It is, I JOIN THE FAITH; not, I THINK FOR MYSELF.

So what you are saying then, is that free thought is acceptable so long as there are no religious connotations involved, whereupon it becomes perfectly acceptable to derogate and ridicule such thinkers as part of some idiotic collective?

Likewise, the Neocons believe that free thinking is perfectly acceptable amongst Republicans so long as there are no libertarian connotations involved, whereupon it becomes perfectly acceptable to derogate and ridicule them as part of the "paultard" collective.

I quite frankly see no difference between your behavior on this subject, and the behavior of the Neocons regarding the supporters of Ron Paul.
 
So what you are saying then, is that free thought is acceptable so long as there are no religious connotations involved, whereupon it becomes perfectly acceptable to derogate and ridicule such thinkers as part of some idiotic collective?
I have no “rules” against anyone; if Aquinas popped up tomorrow, I’d be there with him in the next two days or so.

Likewise, the Neocons believe that free thinking is perfectly acceptable amongst Republicans so long as there are no libertarian connotations involved, whereupon it becomes perfectly acceptable to derogate and ridicule them as part of the "paultard" collective.

?

I quite frankly see no difference between your behavior on this subject, and the behavior of the Neocons regarding the supporters of Ron Paul.

You might want to discern sometimes what youre talking about.
 
For two people (Sophocles and Kade) that don't believe in God's existence, you sure spend a lot of time visiting Christian threads, spewing your venomous remarks.

Can you hate someone or something that you TRULY don't believe exists?

Wouldn't indifference be more convincing?
 
For two people (Sophocles and Kade) that don't believe in God's existence, you sure spend a lot of time visiting Christian threads, spewing your venomous remarks.

Can you hate someone or something that you TRULY don't believe exists?

Wouldn't indifference be more convincing?

Get this thru yo head, big thighed wuhman: I hate yo ignunce, not the BIIIIBle.
 
For two people (Sophocles and Kade) that don't believe in God's existence, you sure spend a lot of time visiting Christian threads, spewing your venomous remarks.

Can you hate someone or something that you TRULY don't believe exists?

Wouldn't indifference be more convincing?

Instead of 'more convincing' don't you mean 'less annoying'? ;)

Militant anti-theosophists like them are not content with mere disbelief, or even with stating their disbelief. They are so threatened by the possibility of God, that they feel compelled to go out of their way to actually attack, with all possible alacrity, any mere mention of theology to satisfy some deep insatiable need.

Most psychologists would postulate that this stems from some deeply set insecurity with regards to religion. There are any number of reasons this could have happened. Overbearing religious parents who demand that their children pay homage to a God in which they do not believe, or even from some kind of abuse on the part of a priest, rabbi, or pastor.

Regardless of why they do it, it is important for us to recognize that it is a compulsion over which they have little or no control. You may as well tell a river to stop flowing. Only when the actual insecurity driving the compulsion is addressed can they actually become rational on the subject, and most people in such circumstance (once the insecurity is resolved) simply avoid the subject for the rest of their lives.

The basic truth we must recognize here, is that a whole lot of abuse has been perpetrated against people in the name of religion. You and I know that those who would abuse others in the name of religion do not hold the faith in truth, but with a lack of true knowledge merely parroting the words of those who have come before them. They create an appearance of religious asceticism, without any actual denial of the preeminence of the physical realm. Those who would abuse others in the name of God, are directly responsible for the majority of militant anti-theosophists in the world today.

It is important, then, to understand the compulsions driving this behavior and acknowledge (at least to ourselves) why it is that they attack us. By doing so, we come to the realization that no amount of reason or rationale will sway such people in the slightest. They are on a mission, and that mission is to derogate religion at all costs!

On the internet, they seem a lot more prevalent than they are in the rest of the world. I believe that this is because they are able to hide behind a keyboard to launch their attacks. People like this are as common as sand on Christian forums throughout the Internet, on usenet, on boards, blogs, everywhere. Reverse psychology does not work. Preventing their amusement does not work. The only thing that works, in my experience, it either ignoring them entirely, or allowing them to hang themselves on their own words to the point that they make themselves look foolish enough that they cut their losses and run.

The bottom line is, get used to them. They appear anywhere faith, and particularly Christianity, is discussed online. They are as prevalent as jungle-rot in Vietnam. The only way you will ever find a place to discuss Christianity online without their interference, is through the intercession of a heavy handed moderator. An apt analogy is, if you are a pet lover with lots of animals, then you will have to deal with fleas. There are measures you can take to reduce that annoyance, but you can never remove it completely.
 
There will be no new Temple, and no sacrifices given. JESUS was the final sacrifice. His sacrifice smoothed God's wrinkled brow so to speak. Do you really think the blood of bulls or goats sacrificed in a newly built Temple would please God after the ultimate sacrifice has been made? It would be an affront to Him.
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The people who will be doing the "sacraficing" don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah, therefore, they don't believe he was sacraficed for them.

Daniel 12:11 "And from the time that the daily sacrafice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days."
 
Instead of 'more convincing' don't you mean 'less annoying'?

Militant anti-theosophists like them are not content with mere disbelief, or even with stating their disbelief. They are so threatened by the possibility of God, that they feel compelled to go out of their way to actually attack, with all possible alacrity, any mere mention of theology to satisfy some deep insatiable need.

Most psychologists would postulate that this stems from some deeply set insecurity with regards to religion. There are any number of reasons this could have happened. Overbearing religious parents who demand that their children pay homage to a God in which they do not believe, or even from some kind of abuse on the part of a priest, rabbi, or pastor.

Regardless of why they do it, it is important for us to recognize that it is a compulsion over which they have little or no control. You may as well tell a river to stop flowing. Only when the actual insecurity driving the compulsion is addressed can they actually become rational on the subject, and most people in such circumstance (once the insecurity is resolved) simply avoid the subject for the rest of their lives.

The basic truth we must recognize here, is that a whole lot of abuse has been perpetrated against people in the name of religion. You and I know that those who would abuse others in the name of religion do not hold the faith in truth, but with a lack of true knowledge merely parroting the words of those who have come before them. They create an appearance of religious asceticism, without any actual denial of the preeminence of the physical realm. Those who would abuse others in the name of God, are directly responsible for the majority of militant anti-theosophists in the world today.

It is important, then, to understand the compulsions driving this behavior and acknowledge (at least to ourselves) why it is that they attack us. By doing so, we come to the realization that no amount of reason or rationale will sway such people in the slightest. They are on a mission, and that mission is to derogate religion at all costs!

On the internet, they seem a lot more prevalent than they are in the rest of the world. I believe that this is because they are able to hide behind a keyboard to launch their attacks. People like this are as common as sand on Christian forums throughout the Internet, on usenet, on boards, blogs, everywhere. Reverse psychology does not work. Preventing their amusement does not work. The only thing that works, in my experience, it either ignoring them entirely, or allowing them to hang themselves on their own words to the point that they make themselves look foolish enough that they cut their losses and run.

The bottom line is, get used to them. They appear anywhere faith, and particularly Christianity, is discussed online. They are as prevalent as jungle-rot in Vietnam. The only way you will ever find a place to discuss Christianity online without their interference, is through the intercession of a heavy handed moderator. An apt analogy is, if you are a pet lover with lots of animals, then you will have to deal with fleas. There are measures you can take to reduce that annoyance, but you can never remove it completely.

O analysis you look like butt cheeks
 
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