Why so few Christians joining fight against The Mark?

[DadaOrwell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MrVup9Dl4U

For over twenty years, "Patriot Pastor" Garrett Lear has strode the halls of New Hampshire's legislature...serving as a voice for his faith and his Revolutionary War ancestors. Today he talks with us about Real ID, the liberty deficit among Christians and his colorful outfit. Pastor Lear's church is in Wakefield, New Hampshire.

What do *you* think? Is Real ID the Mark of the Beast? A precursor to it? A bad thing? A good thing?

 

[Dr.3D]

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, then it is probably a duck.

I would resist this 'mark' because it resembles what is told of in the book of Revelation.

Many churches have pretty much thrown the book of Revelation aside because they figure they can not understand it, so the best way to handle it is to ignore it.

That is the wrong mindset and those who are doing so, do it at their own peril.

I've been told, many church leaders have been infiltrated by the powers that be and thus will not discuss this problem. This could explain why there is so much apathy in the church as to the coming mark of the beast.

When in doubt, it is best to resist anything resembling that we have been warned about.

 

[UnReconstructed]

It is a precursor to it and it is definitely a bad thing but you can't fight the mark. It's coming for those that will be left here. They will either choose to take it or be beheaded.

 

[Kade]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MrVup9Dl4U

For over twenty years, "Patriot Pastor" Garrett Lear has strode the halls of New Hampshire's legislature...serving as a voice for his faith and his Revolutionary War ancestors. Today he talks with us about Real ID, the liberty deficit among Christians and his colorful outfit. Pastor Lear's church is in Wakefield, New Hampshire.

What do *you* think? Is Real ID the Mark of the Beast? A precursor to it? A bad thing? A good thing?

Real ID is a very bad thing.

The idea that it is some supernatural embodiment of an evil spirit to force people into spiritual slavery is frankly batshit.

 

[soapmistress]

In one of my Myspace groups (a mom group) there was a very serious thread debating whether or not Obama is the anti-christ. I thought it was a joke at first, but no.

Go to youtube and just about every candidate has a "XXX is the antichrist" video

 

[micahnelson]

Real ID is a very bad thing.

The idea that it is some supernatural embodiment of an evil spirit to force people into spiritual slavery is frankly batshit.

The anti-christ is against God. The federal government believes it is your God.

It is a subtle difference.

There was a time when barcodes were raising concerns among Christian circles, but these days if you say it will keep your children safe from ___________, they go for it.

Not just Christians, of course, but I am disappointed. I thought they of all people would oppose national ID.

For the record, I am not a dispensationalist.

 

[Dr.3D]

It is a precursor to it and it is definitely a bad thing but you can't fight the mark. It's coming for those that will be left here. They will either choose to take it or be beheaded.

Don't be alarmed if believers are still here when there is the required acceptance of the 'mark'. In my years of study, I have not seen any evidence of a pre-tribulation rapture.

 

[acptulsa]

Real ID is a very bad thing.

The idea that it is some supernatural embodiment of an evil spirit to force people into spiritual slavery is frankly batshit.

If batshit proves to be an effective weapon against a bad thing, I am prepared to wield it.

 

[Kade]

Don't be alarmed if believers are still here when there is the required acceptance of the 'mark'. In my years of study, I have not seen any evidence of a pre-tribulation rapture.

In my years of study, I have not seen any evidence of a legitimate scholar of "supernatural" things...

If you are implying that you have somehow studied something that gave insight to a supernatural event of some sort, I have to call bullshit.

 

[Kade]

If batshit proves to be an effective weapon against a bad thing, I am prepared to wield it.

Touché

 

[Dr.3D]

In my years of study, I have not seen any evidence of a legitimate scholar of "supernatural" things...

If you are implying that you have somehow studied something that gave insight to a supernatural event of some sort, I have to call bullshit.

To each his own my friend.

You can call it bullshit..... we can choose to believe what we want.

Seems you have some kind of chip on your shoulder.
You don't see me going around making fun of what you believe or as you would say, don't believe.

Have a nice day.

 

[Kade]

To each his own my friend.

You can call it bullshit..... we can choose to believe what we want.

Seems you have some kind of chip on your shoulder.
You don't see me going around making fun of what you believe or as you would say, don't believe.

Have a nice day.

There is no making fun of non-existence. I can only point it out.

 

[A. Havnes]

Back on the original subject, I think it could definately be a precursor to it, but I'm very cautious before saying anything for certain is or isn't the mark, antichrist, etc. Personally, I wouldn't accept a RealID card due to religious reasons and also for patriotic reasons.

 

[Macon GA]

There is a remnant of Christians who are not Dispensational in their doctrine. Have any of you ever heard of Postmillenialism? No rapture, no antichrist (many antichrists, look at I John), no mark of the beast. Check out www.americanvision.org for more information on that. Dispensationalism is a fairly new teaching. The Church Fathers would have never recognized it as legitimate. It makes for pretty good fiction, but terrible theology.

 

[porcupine]

I love the Ridley Report!

By the way if you want to resist Real ID, it would help to move to a state that has opted out by law. New Hampshire has made it illegal to participate in any national ID card and you'd have plently of libertarians there to back you up. Another reason to join the Free State Project

 

[jkm1864]

I agree it is the precursor to the mark of the beast. You will see the National ID then they will tie the buying of selling of goods to it. After that then congress will push for it to be inserted into the skin. I would imagine at that point its time to reevaluate our situation big time. I can not believe people do not notice what is coming. I am especially mad at christians for allowing this but hey I think they will get punished during the tribulation.



Oh btw My AVATAR is JIM JONES ..... Nice guy just don't drink the Kool-Aid

 

[mrsat_98]

I agree it is the precursor to the mark of the beast. You will see the National ID then they will tie the buying of selling of goods to it. After that then congress will push for it to be inserted into the skin. I would imagine at that point its time to reevaluate our situation big time. I can not believe people do not notice what is coming. I am especially mad at christians for allowing this but hey I think they will get punished during the tribulation.

16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Is it ?
0
a=6
b=12
c=18
d=24
e=30
f=36
g=42
h=48
i=54
j=60
k=66
l=72
m=78
n=84
o=90
p=96
q=102
r=108
s=114
t=120
u=126
v=132
w=138
x=144
y=150
z=156

c 18
o 90
m 78
p 96
u 126
t 120
e 30
r 108
------
666 mark of the beast

n 84
e 30
w 138
y 150
o 90
r 108
k 66
----------
666 = mystery babylon the great

Reverse the order of the letters i.e z=6.....a=156 INTERNET=666

 

[hypnagogue]

16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Is it ?
0
a=6
b=12
c=18
d=24
e=30
f=36
g=42
h=48
i=54
j=60
k=66
l=72
m=78
n=84
o=90
p=96
q=102
r=108
s=114
t=120
u=126
v=132
w=138
x=144
y=150
z=156

c 18
o 90
m 78
p 96
u 126
t 120
e 30
r 108
------
666 mark of the beast

n 84
e 30
w 138
y 150
o 90
r 108
k 66
----------
666 = mystery babylon the great

Reverse the order of the letters i.e z=6.....a=156 INTERNET=666

LMAO. Seriously, that's good stuff there.

 

[Time for Change]

it is a precursor...absolutely.
The detention camps are for those who resist.

Maybe I am incorrect, maybe I am kidding, maybe I am not...you decide.

Terrible storms, famine, great war and rumor of wars...think about it (if you know anything about the bible)

You never know...

but hey, every person is born with free will. Free to decide to believe or not to believe.

.

 

[hillbilly123069]

Denial.

The mark of the beast will likely be a global ID. 1 step away if they pull this off.