why should I donate?
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I work hard for my money. (so hard for it, honey)
II'll donate again, because I believe in Congressman Paul, but I'll do it grudgingly knowing that some of his supporters are just waiting for the chance to show their asses again.
Grow the hell up, people. We represent Ron Paul and some of you are doing your damnedest to kill his campaign.
Some don't respond well to constant harassment. I get angry myself, but, stooping to these tactics needs to be quelled.....
At least until after the RNC.
This is all just embarrassing.
I have been supporting Ron Paul from a distance for several months, but after the exclusion from the debate I decided to see if I could get involved. I started reading as much as I could, watching old interviews on youtube that I had missed, got on the campaign website and ordered 1000 slim jims and a shirt.
That eventually led here, about a week ago, and I am appalled by what I see going on here. Outright hostility toward others, abuse of newcomers (I am guessing it will take about thirty seconds after I post this that somebody will say "STFU N00b!! One post...FU Troll. lolerskates").
I am going to give as generously as I can on the 21st, and hit the streets of my neighborhood with my shipment of slimjims, but I think I have had about enough of the "Ron Paul Supporters".
This movement will go down in history with the Deaniacs as a huge joke unless people start acting like they are old enough to vote.
I have been supporting Ron Paul from a distance for several months, but after the exclusion from the debate I decided to see if I could get involved. I started reading as much as I could, watching old interviews on youtube that I had missed, got on the campaign website and ordered 1000 slim jims and a shirt.
That eventually led here, about a week ago, and I am appalled by what I see going on here. Outright hostility toward others, abuse of newcomers (I am guessing it will take about thirty seconds after I post this that somebody will say "STFU N00b!! One post...FU Troll. lolerskates").
I am going to give as generously as I can on the 21st, and hit the streets of my neighborhood with my shipment of slimjims, but I think I have had about enough of the "Ron Paul Supporters".
This movement will go down in history with the Deaniacs as a huge joke unless people start acting like they are old enough to vote.
Thank you!
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I work hard for my money. (so hard for it, honey)
I want to donate more to the campaign, but there seem to be a lot of supporters who are bound and determined to kill the campaign with their scandalous behavior and make my donation be nothing but a waste.
Seriously, emailing threats and harassing people? Why not just go vote for Rudi and be done with it.
I'll donate again, because I believe in Congressman Paul, but I'll do it grudgingly knowing that some of his supporters are just waiting for the chance to show their asses again.
Grow the hell up, people. We represent Ron Paul and some of you are doing your damnedest to kill his campaign.
A recent poll on this forum revealed that 1 in 20 posters here are self-described "trolls." Extrapolate that figure to the grassroots in general, and it isn't difficult to conceive that a certain fixed percentage of "supporters" are really just associating themselves with the campaign, in order to give the rest of us a bad name. I wouldn't get too exercised over the "bad apples." I suspect most of them actually came from a different barrel.
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donate or dont, your money wont be worth anything in 4 years if Ron Paul doesnt get elected!
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I work hard for my money. (so hard for it, honey)
I want to donate more to the campaign, but there seem to be a lot of supporters who are bound and determined to kill the campaign with their scandalous behavior and make my donation be nothing but a waste.
Seriously, emailing threats and harassing people? Why not just go vote for Rudi and be done with it.
I'll donate again, because I believe in Congressman Paul, but I'll do it grudgingly knowing that some of his supporters are just waiting for the chance to show their asses again.
Grow the hell up, people. We represent Ron Paul and some of you are doing your damnedest to kill his campaign.
Well...this forum isn't actually the campaign. so maybe just not use the behaviour of people on this forum to base your decisions on? Just an idea...
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I work hard for my money. (so hard for it, honey)
I want to donate more to the campaign, but there seem to be a lot of supporters who are bound and determined to kill the campaign with their scandalous behavior and make my donation be nothing but a waste.
Seriously, emailing threats and harassing people? Why not just go vote for Rudi and be done with it.
I'll donate again, because I believe in Congressman Paul, but I'll do it grudgingly knowing that some of his supporters are just waiting for the chance to show their asses again.
Grow the hell up, people. We represent Ron Paul and some of you are doing your damnedest to kill his campaign.
Mom4Ron your concerns are valid. Unfortunately I don't really see any way out of it. If Ron decries it, it will only get worse. (Three headed Dragon so to speak).
I'll be donating my hard earned money simply because I feel graffiti will be the least of our concerns if we don't pick the right candidate. Is it money down the drain, perhaps it is. My feeling on the matter, its like all those voters who say he can't win and therefor vote for the lesser guys. He can't win if we don't vote for him. He can't win if we don't support him.
I'll I ask is this, if you can't donate (which is perfectly fine) please positively contribute to the campaign in some manner. Whether its as simple as telling two friends or as detailed as becoming a precinct captain or delegate. No small deed will be unnoticed.
Just look at what this government took from you through FICA, Soc Sec, Medicare and medicaid in 2007, and remember, they're never going to stop taking it from you and you're never getting a dime of it back from them.
I promised my support to Ron personally, back in May. I had no strings attached. He said, "As long as you keep coming out here, I'll be there to deliver the message."
Imagine the commitment he's made. After 30 years of heroic public service, he's endured countless insulting questions and accusations, he's traveled around this country with an incredibly exhausting schedule. I was in NH at the end of May when he showed up at the after debate party. He stayed until 2:00 AM greeting every single person, then I saw him 2 hours later at the airport, alone, schlepping his own bags through the airport to board a commercial flight to DC. He's been ridiculed, blacked out, vilified, badgered, falsely accused, had to read about CIA death plots, etc., etc.
I'm in it until he tells me to go home. Donations are part of it, and right now, it's the best investment any American with a brain can make. Stop smoking, stop buying plastic crapola from China, keep your old car, drive less, disconnect cable TV, get a side job...whatever it takes.
I can only speak for myself, but I hope it helps answer your question. It ain't over until Ron says it is. If he loses, it will not be because he didn't do his part to the fullest, against all odds.
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I promised my support to Ron personally, back in May. I had no strings attached. He said, "As long as you keep coming out here, I'll be there to deliver the message."
Imagine the commitment he's made. After 30 years of heroic public service, he's endured countless insulting questions and accusations, he's traveled around this country with an incredibly exhausting schedule. I was in NH at the end of May when he showed up at the after debate party. He stayed until 2:00 AM greeting every single person, then I saw him 2 hours later at the airport, alone, schlepping his own bags through the airport to board a commercial flight to DC. He's been ridiculed, blacked out, vilified, badgered, falsely accused, had to read about CIA death plots, etc., etc.
I'm in it until he tells me to go home. Donations are part of it, and right now, it's the best investment any American with a brain can make. Stop smoking, stop buying plastic crapola from China, keep your old car, drive less, disconnect cable TV, get a side job...whatever it takes.
I can only speak for myself, but I hope it helps answer your question. It ain't over until Ron says it is. If he loses, it will not be because he didn't do his part to the fullest, against all odds.
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You the man Bosso. For me it's been Oatmeal for breakfast and Raman noodles for lunch for the past few months now so I can pay for my Ron Paul addiction. Bringing my own coffee and soft drinks to work so I don't spend money at convience stores. Actual sacrifice of lifestyle, not that I had much of one to start with. And I still think I should be doing more...
I'm referring to the bad press that Ron Paul is getting due to the public behavior of some of his supporters.
Thanks, Bilge, Boss, and William. I will continue to donate and talk to people, but I sure wish there weren't others waiting in the wings to swoop in and undo the good that gets done.
We've all heard the saying about how bad service gets mentioned 10 more times than good service does. This is no different.
There's a bunch of good things going on. I loved when we spammed the food bank at that one Ron Paul event (I'd like to have seen that continued) and some of the other positive things, like the money bombs. To say there's a lot of enthusiasm would a gross understatement, but too much of it is getting channeled the wrong way and that is biting us in the ass.
I know what you're saying, William. Ron has taken a lot, and I understand the anger at his and our treatment, I just think that acting out on that anger in certain ways isn't helping. We can pour that anger into better activities than chasing some talking head down the street and getting even more bad press for our candidate or mailbombing and threatening some media person so that they refuse to even mention Ron Paul. We should endeavor not to leave a bad taste in the mouths that we wish to hear sweet words from.
We've all heard the saying about how bad service gets mentioned 10 more times than good service does. This is no different.
There's a bunch of good things going on. I loved when we spammed the food bank at that one Ron Paul event (I'd like to have seen that continued) and some of the other positive things, like the money bombs. To say there's a lot of enthusiasm would a gross understatement, but too much of it is getting channeled the wrong way and that is biting us in the ass.
I know what you're saying, William. Ron has taken a lot, and I understand the anger at his and our treatment, I just think that acting out on that anger in certain ways isn't helping. We can pour that anger into better activities than chasing some talking head down the street and getting even more bad press for our candidate or mailbombing and threatening some media person so that they refuse to even mention Ron Paul. We should endeavor not to leave a bad taste in the mouths that we wish to hear sweet words from.
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Have you seen drudgereport.com today? The democrats are attacking each other over...are you ready...RACISM! They are tearing into each other over it!
Sure it's no fun to hear Ron Paul get smeared in the media, but politics is inherently a dirty thing. I mean how much more darn near perfect integrity can you get than Ron Paul? It wouldn't matter if he were 100% perfect he would still be smeared. Even though he isn't perfect the worst that can be found is 20 year old newsletters with some politically incorrect and mildly bigoted articles that he didn't even write. The fact that the media has to look to his supporters to smear him shows how little there is bad about Ron Paul himself.
Even if every single supporter of Ron Pauls were perfectly behaved at all times there would still be people who would make stuff up and use it to smear with, and others who will run with it and treat it like news, and still others who will believe it. It's the nature of politics.
Why should you donate?
Habeas corpus is a gutted.
Posse comitatus is dead.
The Fourth Amendment is a joke.
Medical privacy is gone.
The Second Amendment is eroded.
That's why.
Watch "What We Chose to Ignore" again.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jl1VIhdpl4c
What is at stake is a whole lot bigger than the question of whether anyone threw snow at Hannity, okay? Freedom is in danger and the police state is rising.
Habeas corpus is a gutted.
Posse comitatus is dead.
The Fourth Amendment is a joke.
Medical privacy is gone.
The Second Amendment is eroded.
That's why.
Watch "What We Chose to Ignore" again.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jl1VIhdpl4c
What is at stake is a whole lot bigger than the question of whether anyone threw snow at Hannity, okay? Freedom is in danger and the police state is rising.
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