Why No One Wants To Meet US Vice President Vance In Greenland

[TheTexan]

Show of hands: Who else here agrees that respecting the absolute right of Greenlanders to decide for themselves what they do with their own fucking country is a mere "nicety that cannot always be afforded"? Just trying to gauge how far this place really has fallen.

To be fair noone really has a morally justifiable claim to Northern Greenland. Except maybe like the 5 people who live there, and the United States, who has developed small pieces of land up there.

Southern Greenland isn't automatically entitled to Northern Greenland just because they share the same land mass.

So if the US were want to unilaterally take some land up in Northern Greenland... I don't see any moral justification for opposing that.

 

[acptulsa]

Got it, either what our ancestors did was evil but you don't want to fix it, or it's different if we do it than when they did it.

Got it, you think the fact that someone -- anyone -- was once murdered and nobody can bring them back to life is all the excuse you need to murder anybody you want to murder. And you think nobody who doesn't resurrect every murdered person ever has any right to say you were wrong to kill them.

Cute. Stupid, arrogant, ugly, but cute.

So, when Jesus said to the harlot he saved from stoning, "Go and sin no more," He was wrong? Her behavior, like the behavior of the nation, can't (or shouldn't?) improve?

And our independence and liberty (which we would share with the natives unlike most nations) are of no value compared to virtue signaling.

Dude, the Iroquois taught us how to do the constitution. They shared it with us. We haven't shared it with anyone, not since WWII ended. First we set up Israel, a socialist state, then we installed a string of "leaders" with names like Allende, Duvalier, Amin, Branco, Pinochet, Rhee, Ceausescu, Allende, Karimov, Zelensky...

 

[Swordsmyth]

To be fair noone really has a morally justifiable claim to Northern Greenland. Except maybe like the 5 people who live there, and the United States, who has developed small pieces of land up there.

Southern Greenland isn't automatically entitled to Northern Greenland just because they share the same land mass.

So if the US were want to unilaterally take some land up in Northern Greenland... I don't see any moral justification for opposing that.

A very sensible solution.
Especially considering that we've been providing their defense since WWII.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Got it, you think the fact that someone -- anyone -- was once murdered and nobody can bring them back to life is all the excuse you need to murder anybody you want to murder. And you think nobody who doesn't resurrect every murdered person ever has any right to say you were wrong to kill them.

Cute. Stupid, arrogant, ugly, but cute.

So, when Jesus said to the harlot he saved from stoning, "Go and sin no more," He was wrong? Her behavior, like the behavior of the nation, can't (or shouldn't?) improve?

Life is a war to survive, the Bible is full of GOD sanctioned conquest.
And nobody said to murder the natives.

The only reasonable thing to do is to pick a side (like western Christianity or American style classical liberalism or some combination) and base your world view on what is best for the side you have chosen.
That might mean peace and trade or war and conquest in different times and circumstances.
Less reasonable but the only other logical option is to just say we are like wolves and might makes right, then you have to respect the conquests of opposed groups as well as equally pursuing your own.
It amounts to nearly the same thing.

Dude, the Iroquois taught us how to do the constitution. They shared it with us. We haven't shared it with anyone, not since WWII ended. First we set up Israel, a socialist state, then we installed a string of "leaders" with names like Allende, Duvalier, Amin, Branco, Pinochet, Rhee, Ceausescu, Allende, Karimov, Zelensky...

The Iroquois contribution is vastly overstated.
And we do share our Constitution with places we annex.

And we could always make a deal where they remain independent under our protection and we get access to their minerals and strategic location if they really don't want to be annexed.

 

[acptulsa]

Life is a war to survive, the Bible is full of GOD sanctioned conquest.

And you don't see a difference between obeying God and doing this for our own reasons? You god complex is showing.

And nobody said to murder the natives.

True. Nobody said that. Too stupid to know what the purpose of an analogy is?

The only reasonable thing to do is to pick a side (like western Christianity or American style classical liberalism or some combination) and base your world view on what is best for the side you have chosen.

That might mean peace and trade or war and conquest in different times and circumstances.

Less reasonable but the only other logical option is to just say we are like wolves and might makes right, then you have to respect the conquests of opposed groups as well as equally pursuing your own.

It amounts to nearly the same thing.

Why, yes, violating all Christian principles in defense of Christianity is very nearly the same thing as throwing Christian mores over in favor of a might makes right scenario. What nobody can believe is your hypocrisy in avowing that those are the only reasonable alternatives.

The Iroquois contribution is vastly overstated, is it? Spoken like someone who thinks it's deplorable that they allowed each tribe self-determination, instead of grabbing and centralizing power like totalitarians.

 

[acptulsa]

And we do share our Constitution with places we annex.

Of course. Idi Amin Dada loved it. Thought it was great toilet paper. Shithead.

And we could always make a deal where they remain independent under our protection and we get access to their minerals and strategic location if they really don't want to be annexed.

We never, ever do. But I suppose we could. I don't see Trump being the one to break tradition, though. Wake me when he does.

 

[Swordsmyth]

And you don't see a difference between obeying God and doing this for our own reasons? You god complex is showing.

I didn't say the GOD commanded conquests, I said GOD sanctioned conquests.
There are both in the Bible.

 

[acptulsa]

I didn't say the GOD commanded conquests, I said GOD sanctioned conquests.

So? That's completely irrelevant -- unless God told you He sanctions us conquering Greenland.

And if you say He did tell you that, it proves you're full of it when you deny that Trump is the, or an, antichrist.

 

[Swordsmyth]

So? That's completely irrelevant -- unless God told you He sanctions us conquering Greenland.

And if you say He did tell you that, it proves you're full of it when you deny that Trump is the, or an, antichrist.

The GOD sanctioned conquests in the Bible didn't always have a prophet specifically sanction them.
The people fought for their country and GOD blessed them.

 

[acptulsa]

The GOD sanctioned conquests in the Bible didn't always have a prophet specifically sanction them.
The people fought for their country and GOD blessed them

Their country?

So what you're saying is, they were defending what was theirs, not trying to augment it with what was someone else's?

And you don't think that detail is significant?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Their country?

So what you're saying is, they were defending what was theirs, not trying to augment it with what was someone else's?

And you don't think that detail is significant?

No, we are discussing conquests, not defenses.
Conquests are also fighting for your country.

 

[acptulsa]

Conquests are also fighting for your country.

Think so? Bizarre.

Okay, never mind that acting on orders from God is different from acting on orders from Trump (something you don't seem to want to admit). Riddle me this: How often did God send people to war with others? And how many of those weren't because those people were out of control, but rather because they had the ingredients to make bronze swords with?

Because, if you'll recall, your big justification is Greenland has ore...

 

[Swordsmyth]

Think so? Bizarre.

Okay, never mind that acting on orders from God is different from acting on orders from Trump (something you don't seem to want to admit). Riddle me this: How often did God send people to war with others? And how many of those weren't because those people were out of control, but rather because they had the ingredients to make bronze swords with?

Because, if you'll recall, your big justification is Greenland has ore...

Read what I already said.

 

[acptulsa]

Read what I already said.

I did. That's how I knew that you think Trump is God, blasphemer.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I did. That's how I knew that you think Trump is God, blasphemer.

LOL

Now you're just making things up.
Nowhere did I say any such thing.
I specified that word from GOD was not required, as it often was not in the Bible.

 

[acptulsa]

Nowhere did I say any such thing.

But you did say God sanctioned wars in the OT as if it was a valid excuse for you to follow Trump off into an unprovoked attack. And that, mental midget, is the same damned thing.

 

[Voluntarist]

Mar 28, 2025

Why no one wants to meet US Vice President Vance in Greenland​

Meanwhile, they're welcoming the European Union.

Greenland dangles rare earths partnership with EU as Trump looms

Greenland’s foreign minister has suggested the European Union could develop its coveted mineral resources amid threats by U.S. President Donald Trump to seize the island.

With its vast caches of rare earths and strategic location in the Arctic, Greenland — a self-ruling Danish territory with a population of around 60,000 — has became an increasingly important geopolitical player whose global profile has been elevated by Trump’s aggressive overtures.

Foreign Minister Vivian Motzfeldt told POLITICO in an exclusive interview during a diplomatic trip to Brussels that she wanted to deepen “bilateral” ties with the EU, and singled out Greenland's precious minerals as an area to join forces.

“They get some fish from us, and on the other side we have a free market, we can export to the EU without any extra costs,” she said. “But today, we want to expand our cooperation based on not only fisheries, we want to expand our cooperation on our critical minerals and energy.”

“That’s what Greenland has, and the rest of the world, our like-minded countries, need a greener future, renewable energy,” she added.

Buried deep in Greenland’s icy terrain are around 40 of the 50 critical minerals that the U.S. deems vital to its national security. The resources, from uranium to graphite, are crucial to manufacturing and global supply chains — though Greenland’s stores are largely unexplored and untapped.

Its mineral wealth means the island has the answer to “a very key question” that could bring about “strengthened cooperation with the EU,” Motzfeldt said.

“Of course, we want to have cooperation with our critical minerals with our like-minded countries, and [the] EU is a good partner, we like them,” she said.

The Greenlandic politician, who met with High Representative Kaja Kallas on Thursday, invited members of the European Union’s executive to tour the island. “All the commissioners who want to come and visit us are more than welcome,” she said.