Why men earn more

[Natalie]

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[Kludge]

Capitalist lies. All people are equal, no matter how much lipstick pigs try to put on this prejudice. This is simply class warfare being waged against the poor and middle class struggling to survive by having both partners work. Mr. DiLorenzo is obviously an anti-feminist Neo-Nazi sellout.

 

[Matt Collins]

Simple... because men are more intelligent

 

[Nirvikalpa]

Crock load of pure bullshit.

Glad I'm going into the sciences. I already see the sexism

Loyola college... f'n Jesuits.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Capitalist lies. All people are equal, no matter how much lipstick pigs try to put on this prejudice. This is simply class warfare being waged against the poor and middle class struggling to survive by having both partners work. Mr. DiLorenzo is obviously an anti-feminist Neo-Nazi sellout.

All people are individuals, and not entirely equal. They do and should have equal OPPORTUNITIES-but that is not the same thing. Kludges these days!

 

[Working Poor]

go get em give.me.liberty!

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Crock load of pure bullshit.

Glad I'm going into the sciences. I already see the sexism

Loyola college... f'n Jesuits.

You show em, girlfriend!

 

[brandon]

Good article. Thanks for sharing.

 

[evilfunnystuff]

Crock load of pure bullshit.

Glad I'm going into the sciences. I already see the sexism

Loyola college... f'n Jesuits.

so you dont see any truth in those points

ime they are very accurate

if someone asked me why yesterday i wouldnt have had an answer but after seeing it layed out it is pretty obvious

 

[mediahasyou]

be careful: sexism, racism, and class-ism has been designed to manipulate the populace.

 

[strapko]

Crock load of pure bullshit.

Glad I'm going into the sciences. I already see the sexism

Loyola college... f'n Jesuits.

Lol

 

[AutoDas]

Lies! Statistical lies! This must be coming from a chauvinist who wants the 1950s to return.

 

[asimplegirl]

i don't think it is *all* a complete crock...some of it is pretty obvious...like the hazardous jobs and such.. I mean you can't honestly expect someone being a dental assistant to get the same pay as someone working in a gravel pit running heavy machinery, right? I mean, those take about the same amount of training, but one is waaay more dangerous than the others.


I don't think all of them are accurate though.

 

[danberkeley]

Crock load of pure bullshit.

How so? Got any evidence?

 

[LibertyEagle]

-Men go into technology and hard sciences more than women.
-Men are more likely to take hazardous jobs than women, and such jobs pay more than cushier and safer jobs.
-Men are more willing to expose themselves to inclement weather at work, and are compensated for it ("compensating differences" in the language of economics).
-Men tend to take more stressful jobs that are not "nine-to-five."
-Many women prefer personal fulfillment at work (child care professional, for example) to higher pay.
-Men are bigger risk takers than women, in general. Higher risk leads to higher reward.
-The worst working hours pay more, and men are more likely to work these hours than women.
-Dangerous jobs (coal mining) pay more and are more male dominated.
-Men tend to "update" their work qualifications more than women do.
-Men are more likely to work longer hours, and the pay gap widens for every hour past 40 per week.
-Women are more likely to have "gaps" in their careers, primarily because of child rearing and child care. Less experience means lower pay.
-Women are nine times more likely than men to drop out of work for "family reasons." Less seniority leads to lower pay.
-Men work more weeks per year than women.
-Men have half the absenteeism rate of women.
-Men are more willing to commute long distances to work.
-Men are more willing to relocate to undesirable locations for higher-paying jobs.
-Men are more willing to take jobs that require extensive travel.
-In the corporate world men are more likely to choose higher-paying fields such as finance and sales, whereas women are more prevalent in lower-paying fields such as human resources and public relations.
-When men and women have the same job title, male responsibilities tend to be greater.
-Men are more likely to work by commission; women are more likely to seek job security. The former has more earning potential.
-Women place greater value on flexibility, a humane work environment, and having time for children and family than men do.


This is from:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo160.html

These are gross overgeneralizations and if they were made by Block, well, I just lost a lot of respect for him. For example, this one:
"-When men and women have the same job title, male responsibilities tend to be greater."

If male responsibilities were greater, why would they have the same job title or rank?

There ought to be equal pay for equal work. If the work is not equal, well then, that's a different situation altogether. I'm not the type to cry sexism, but when someone spouts this kind of overgeneralization and utter bullshit, it really makes me angry.

When re-reading it, I think the article should have been written more clearly. Because he is mixing apples and oranges. Is he talking, generally; or is he attempting to justify why a man in the same job, with the same responsibilities as a woman, should be paid more? It's hard to tell from how it is written.

 

[Kludge]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif] (to clear up any confusion)

"If that was enough to cause outrage, apologies all around, and calls to burn Professor Block in effigy atop the Loyola College church steeple, it is unimaginable what might happen if the book Why Men Earn More: The Startling Truth Behind the Pay Gap – And What Women Can Do About It, by Warren Farrell ever made it into the stacks at the Loyola College library. Even more explosive would be the new book by Professor James T. Bennett of George Mason University’s economics department entitled The Politics of American Feminism: Gender Conflict in Contemporary Society. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif] Warren Farrell boasts of having been elected to the board of directors of the New York City branch of the National Organization for Women (NOW) three times. The author of the foreword to Farrell’s book, Karen DeCrow, is a former NOW president who works as an employment discrimination lawyer. "Men are not involved in a nefarious plot to keep female wages down," she declares. (Pass the smelling salts to the Loyola College administration, quick!) [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif] In The Politics of American Feminism (pp. 128–129) Professor Bennett paraphrases more than twenty reasons why men earn more than women, as discussed and documented in great detail in Why Men Earn More. Cumulatively, they go a long way towards explaining the "wage gap," although neither Bennett nor Farrell believes that wage discrimination by gender is completely nonexistent."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo160.html
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[danberkeley]

These are gross overgeneralizations and if they were made by Block, well, I just lost a lot of respect for him. For example, this one:
"-When men and women have the same job title, male responsibilities tend to be greater."

If male responsibilities were greater, why would they have the same job title or rank?

There ought to be equal pay for equal work. If the work is not equal, well then, that's a different situation altogether. I'm not the type to cry sexism, but when someone spouts this kind of overgeneralization and utter bullshit, it really makes me angry.

When re-reading it, I think the article should have been written more clearly. Because he is mixing apples and oranges. Is he talking, generally; or is he attempting to justify why a man in the same job, with the same responsibilities as a woman, should be paid more? It's hard to tell from how it is written.

Did you read the article? These are not Block's generalizations.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Did you read the article? These are not Block's generalizations.

You're right, he didn't say them; he just agreed with them. Big diff.

 

[danberkeley]

You're right, he didn't say them; he just agreed with them. Big diff.

Anyway, the article states that generalizations are backed by stats.

 

[nate895]

A lot of this is common sense. I have to ask the women: how often has junior been sick and daddy stayed home to make him/her soup instead of mommy?

I have to say, my dad is not exactly the most masculine male, and it would have been kind of weird to have him stay home instead of mom (of course my mom stays at home anyway).