Why lack of Participation from C4L Members??

[David40]

I was looking at the CFL membership numbers for Florida and I noticed something disturbing. Out of almost 9,000 members we only have 115 participating Precinct Leaders for the entire state. Rule of thumb for any organized group is that 20% do all the work while the rest sit on their butts and do nothing. If the norm were to hold true for us we should have about 2,000 leaders statewide. I have to ask myself why anyone would join our cause and then do nothing? The whole point of the CFL is to create an activist leader in every precinct in the county and the numbers in Florida are dismal. Is it the 35 bucks a year fee? Lets see, that comes to less than 10 cents a day. Is it possible our people are so poor we can't afford 10 cents a day. Is it fear? laziness? No time?
I would love to hear from anyone that can explain this to me.

If you vote "Other" in the Poll, sound off and let us know the reason. Inquiring minds want to know

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I was looking at the CFL membership numbers for Florida and I noticed something disturbing. Out of almost 9,000 members we only have 115 participating Precinct Leaders for the entire state. Rule of thumb for any organized group is that 20% do all the work while the rest sit on their butts and do nothing. If the norm were to hold true for us we should have about 2,000 leaders statewide. I have to ask myself why anyone would join our cause and then do nothing? The whole point of the CFL is to create an activist leader in every precinct in the county and the numbers in Florida are dismal. Is it the 35 bucks a year fee? Lets see, that comes to less than 10 cents a day. Is it possible our people are so poor we can't afford 10 cents a day. Is it fear? laziness? No time?
I would love to hear from anyone that can explain this to me.

I am not a Floridian, but I can explain my individual case. I have to wait until very local gigs come up because I can't afford to travel more than a few miles regularly. Hope things get better for you soon! xoxoxo

 

[LibertyEagle]

You're probably going to get more answers from C4L members, if you ask this on the C4L site.

 

[Kludge]

You're probably going to get more answers from C4L members, if you ask this on the C4L site.

This.

I'm not a member of C4L ATM.

 

[muzzled dogg]

why pay for a title that means absolutely nothing?

 

[David40]

There is no way for me to do that. All post are screened and this would be classified a negative outlook and never be allowed to appear in the featured blogs on the home page. I have it in my personal blog but only people who accidentally stumble across it are going find it there.

 

[David40]

why pay for a title that means absolutely nothing?

That's a good point. I should have added that to the poll. I'm sure there are many who act as the leader in their precinct but don't do it officially. Wonder if there is a way to edit a poll?

 

[JoshLowry]

I'm a paid member, but I don't look at CFL as some others might. In my eyes, i'm my own Campaign For Liberty!

You do well with the Rand Paul videos!

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

There is no way for me to do that. All post are screened and this would be classified a negative outlook and never be allowed to appear in the featured blogs on the home page. I have it in my personal blog but only people who accidentally stumble across it are going find it there.

and you probably are touching on a big reason in your own post.

It is going to take time for the wounds of the PCC to heal, and CfL is going to have to prove (to many people) they are not going to waste our money and time, like the PCC did, as well.

I still hold out hope. I still support the Mission Statement. The conference in MO was good, but at too expensive of a venue... I look forward to seeing what they do at the next one...

 

[TheTyke]

Haha, I like your options on that post. I go with "I'm shy." although as a matter of fact I AM signed up as a County Coordinator. I'm not very effective because I don't hand out fliers or go door to door - but at least I help keep people informed, host meetings etc.

It's a really good question though, because there are tons of people in my county who are great activists and do a lot, who haven't signed up with CFL yet. I need to find out why as well.

 

[nayjevin]

Yeah I'm getting active with CFL here lately, was waiting to be settled down in a place I know I'm going to live for a while. Aside from all the skepticism of the central organization, it's an excellent tool for local activism. Automatic messages to all members in your county to promote an event for instance. Boot camp that forces you to learn about your local politics -- and provides a place to compile all the addresses and phone numbers of your reps and local GOP, DP, LP, and CP figureheads.

What sold me on the Campaign for Liberty was the precinct leader tools. They're designed to get a person from zero to powerful at a precinct level in just a few steps.

I suspect many people couldn't answer the questions on the first page and gave up. I think they did that on purpose.

 

[David40]

I can agree with that. I love the tools. When I went to the training area I realized how ignorant I was about what it takes to be an effective political force in your precinct. The training presented me with things I never considered or thought about, like demographics, and other important details you should know off the top of your head for an organized approach. If you have what it takes to get through the training it's much more than just a useless title.

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

I can agree with that. I love the tools. When I went to the training area I realized how ignorant I was about what it takes to be an effective political force in your precinct. The training presented me with things I never considered or thought about, like demographics, and other important details you should know off the top of your head for an organized approach. If you have what it takes to get through the training it's much more than just a useless title.

Yes, the training and the PL tools are the diamonds of CfL... In that sense, CfL is building a very good "tool" for the greater movement, (which will always be bigger than CfL).

I don't know what you mean by "have what it takes" regarding the training, unless you mean a lot more than $35...

 

[David40]

Yes more than the money. It takes a tremendous amount of dedication and work just to get through the training. Definitely separates the men from the boys so to speak.

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

Yes more than the money. It takes a tremendous amount of dedication and work just to get through the training. Definitely separates the men from the boys so to speak.

Sorry, I mis-understood, I was thinking about the training at the regional conferences as being too expensive for many...

Along the lines you are following, we need to remember that the bulk of the online support is younger folk, who are not yet settled, and probably reluctant to begin a long term project like this. The tools are more suited to people who are settled, (homeowners/etc). The trick will be reaching those people, and the tea parties provide a decent venue for recruiting...

Onward and forward

 

[torchbearer]

why pay for a title that means absolutely nothing?

It means nothing if you do nothing.
Sorta like what people do here. Nothing.

Things will only happen when you do SOMETHING, and when you decide to be a precinct leader, that comes with a list of SOMETHINGS that need to be done.

 

[David40]

Yes, and it's an impressive list. You must answer the questions presented in each section before moving on to the next, and you must do the research to get those answers. I'm still only half way through it.

 

[Don't Tread on Mike]

Trying to pay for my education.

 

[mozarkriver]

You have to realize that those 9,000 "members" are really just email addresses...they don't even know the people's names on many of them...they went back through all their old email lists and counted every one of them as a member. That's why you see the distinction of members, accounts, and precinct leaders. Accounts are people who have set up an account on the website.

The bright side is that there are far more people out there that are politically active who just plain don't want to give C4L any more of their money and have never joined. I know around here there are about 20 people active locally but only 4 or 5 signed up with C4L...and most of those won't renew their membership fee when it expires...like others have said, you don't get much for your $35 that you can't do on your own. All the precinct leader tools are is a fill in the blank list that tells you to find out who your local elected officials are...not all that useful in my opinion. I thought they were supposed to roll out a new tool every month, but I guess they figured since nobody was using the precinct leader tools they wouldn't bother anymore...

 

[LibertyEagle]

You have to realize that those 9,000 "members" are really just email addresses...they don't even know the people's names on many of them...they went back through all their old email lists and counted every one of them as a member. That's why you see the distinction of members, accounts, and precinct leaders. Accounts are people who have set up an account on the website.

Source please.