Why is the LEFT howling about Brexit and racist/xenophia....

[dannno]

I'm sure our Muslim population will increase more and more over time but fortunately our country is relatively good when it comes to handling diversity with religion, ethnicity and other nationalities

A lot of Muslims are not very good when it comes to handling diversity with religion and homosexuality in particular. I have known a lot of people of ME descent, most integrated very well, some better than a lot of white people. But they were all people who immigrated, went to college and had kids. They didn't come over for welfare. That is what is happening in Europe, they are going on welfare and draining the system. They vote socialist, for bigger government and more handouts.

In any case our country will be largely Hispanic in the future and Catholicism the dominant religion of the land so you no need to fret about some sort of Muslim invasion.

I've actually seen data that the second part of this chart goes in the opposite direction..

 

[RandallFan]

It was old white people who pushed Brexit over the line.

Muslims. Afro-Caribbeans, Eastern Europeans all voted to stay.

The Muslim mayor of London is more concerned about booting "too many white men" off the rail commission than Sharia & giving quotas to Pakistanis, Afro-Caribbeans & Eastern Europeans probably.

Checking white privilege is number 1.

Many minorities in the UK probably want a double dip at frivolous racial lawsuits & quotas. Lawsuit in UK court. If that fails go with EU courts which are probably to the left of Britain.

I guess Brussels is more liberal than Britain relatively.

It was also about rapists, financial criminals & pickpockets from eastern Europe flooding into UK.

The police, like with the Muslims, also covered up a lot of rapes committed by Eastern Europeans according to the populist news sites like the UK Sun & Daily Mail.

Work 2 years then become a Polish Drunk and live at the bar all day on benefits.

More recently once the Muslims & North Africans because EU citizens in Italy, Greece & Germany they can move anywhere they want in 2020-2025. They move to the best welfare places: UK, Germany or Scandinavia.

 

[alucard13mm]

It was old white people who pushed Brexit over the line.

Muslims. Afro-Caribbeans, Eastern Europeans all voted to stay.

This is an example of why too much immigration from totally different cultures will change the country (usually for the worse). If this vote took place 5+ years from now, BREXIT would have most certainly failed with the increase of immigrants becoming citizens and the growing "minority" population.

To me, too much diversity is globalism.

Sure, some immigrants/minority do believe in libertarian/conservative values.. but most most are for the "other side" which tips the balance against us.

 

[silverhandorder]

but is it really about "muslims" or about the economic load UK has to sustain to welfare all the other nations? Or is it something more?

Biggest reason was any immigration and mainly because they were going on welfare.

 

[alucard13mm]

Can anyone name a predominantly muslim country where there is a positive growth of non-muslim belief or population? Talking about real growth from thousands to tens of thousands minimally. On the other hand, the muslim population in most western countries is growing by leaps and bounds...

This is why it is worrisome. Islam is the worlds largest religion and growing everywhere. It is replacing christianity, catholicism, judaism in many places. If anything, we are losing diversity.

What is happening is a global effort to blend every race, nationality, ethnic group into one. To create an empire where there are no borders anymore... just 1 big country separated by economic zones.

Dont you wanna go to japan to experience japanese people, food, music langauge and culture? Go to switzerland to experience swiss women, booze, architecture and customs? All that will disappear if we are too diverse. Some diversity is fine, just not too much. Sure, cultures die and are born throughout history... but it seems like the entire west is being bulldozed in a covert way.

Instead of someone claiming to be the superior race and killing everyone, just make everyone as the same "race" and control them all.

Brexit is interesting. Perhaps this was on purpose. Who knows.

 

[erowe1]

About one half of Muslims in England want to live under Sharia law - about one quarter of Muslims in England want to force everybody else to live under Sharia law. Over half of Muslims in England want to ban homosexuality. These are incompatible cultures and the EU was forcing England to take more Muslim refugees. It doesn't make any sense why the left has pushed diversity and acceptance of people who are very much opposed to diversity and acceptance of others, unless they are trying to destroy the host culture..

Got a source for 1/4 wanting to force everyone else to live under Sharia?

 

[erowe1]

To me, too much diversity is globalism.

So?

Sure, some immigrants/minority do believe in libertarian/conservative values.. but most most are for the "other side" which tips the balance against us.

Sure, some Anglo-Americans do believe in libertarian/conservative values, but most are for the other side, which tips the balance against us.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Sure, some Anglo-Americans do believe in libertarian/conservative values, but most are for the other side, which tips the balance against us.

Yes, freedom is not popular across the board, but it is much less popular among, in our country for instance, Hispanic first generation immigrants.

You want more government and more taxation?

Import immigrants.

 

[angelatc]

Because CNN told them that this movement only started with one racist white guy talking about brown people. Not that people have been making a case for leaving the EU for decades. History begins when Wolf Blitzer tells you it does.

Technically the EU has only existed since 2007.

The reasons for the EU sound solid: "To assure the free movement of goods and people within the borders."

 

[erowe1]

Yes, freedom is not popular across the board, but it is much less popular among, in our country for instance, Hispanic first generation immigrants.

You want more government and more taxation?

Import immigrants.

I disagree. There's no importing of immigrants. Immigrants are choosing to immigrate here. And I'm not so sure that it's the case that freedom is less popular among them. It depends which aspects of freedom you focus on.

 

[ChiefJustice]

Okay, you're crazy.

As for this country being good with "handling diversity", the advent of Muslims coming to the US is rather recent so there is no history with integrating a large number of them.

Islam is not compatible with the west and as more Muslims are shipped here that will become more apparent. It is the duty of every good Muslim to spread Islam and when their numbers are large enough that they feel confident in making demands, they do. When that happens, it's too late.

We have just as many people in the US who want to use Muslims as a weapon against the west as they do in Europe and we have politicians who want to facilitate the UN agenda of transferring them here.

What has been done to girls and women in Europe is an atrocity and it shouldn't be brushed off with a "it can't happen here" mentality. Yes, it can. Please tell me why anyone has the right to impose that $#@! on native born American females who, like European females, will be the ones put at risk by having foreigners with a completely different mindset imposed on them. Screw that.

Heh. We won't be agreeing on this topic I can see. I know better than to continue on with you on this. (mod edit)

 

[nobody's_hero]

Got a source for 1/4 wanting to force everyone else to live under Sharia?

Well we could wait until it's 2/3 but by then it's a moot argument.

Better to close the door sooner than later.

 

[erowe1]

Well we could wait until it's 2/3 but by then it's a moot argument.

Better to close the door sooner than later.

I doubt that it's as high as 1/4, or 1/10.

And even if it ever did get as high as 2/3, I still don't think it would be moot. Nonmuslims who make up a full third of a society aren't going to let Muslims impose Sharia law on them.

We have a lot more to fear from statists using Islam as a boogey man than we do from Islam.

 

[FindLiberty]

..... [ POST #12 ] see what the EU is .....

Thanks for posting this, it was a very good video! see post #12

 

[RandallFan]

Immigrants aren't necessarily in love with freedom. They move from A to B because the standard of living is higher.

The Polish & Mexicans aren't enamored with the culture of the new host country they are moving to. It's mostly economic whether chasing $10/hour or welfare.

 

[jmdrake]

It's called telling the truth. Heresy, I know.

Islam is not compatible with the west, period. There is nothing wrong with stating that fact. Sure, some Muslims are fine and are more culturally Muslim than devout/observant but a huge amount are devout and like their Islamic culture. The UK has set aside days for women only pool days to appease Muslims. They've removed children's books with pig characters to appease Muslims. Whole sections of towns are controlled by Muslims. None of that is acceptable. When in Rome applies. When people emigrate as individuals, they make a conscious choice to leave one culture behind and adopt another. When they are moved like pawns by the social engineers and these mass immigration projects, it's a different matter. As soon as their numbers get big enough they start demanding the host society adapt to their demands and culture. They are being used as weapons to destroy the west.

We've had Muslims this country and in Europe for a long time. We did not have international Islamic terrorism until the United States under Jimmy Carter started arming Islamic radicals to overthrow the Soviet Union. The CIA went so far as to send textbooks to Afghanistan pushing Islamic radicalization. If radicalization was the "natural" state of Muslims than the CIA had no reason to send the books. Prior to the U.S. misadventure in Afghanistan, when Americans were captured by groups like the PLO they were routinely released. Think of the hijacking that was flown to Entebe. Even this latest shooting really wasn't about homosexuality. I know that's the popular theme pushed by the media. But if you saw the clip on Democracy Now where one of the victims was interviewed she said the killer told them when they were held hostage "I did the because the U.S. is bombing my country." His parents were from Afghanistan. Afghanistan images before and after U.S. interventionism by Jimmy Carter.

 

[jmdrake]

I keep hearing "racism", "xenophobia", "going backwards...."...

why?

Is it just that sometimes people want to be "free" and others don't?

What is the real benefit of Brexit, and what is the real reason for the vote?

It's sad that even on this forum most people have missed the point. The roots of Brexit go back not to concern over brown people or "mooselums" immigrating in but of money being siphoned out because of white socialist countries like Greece. By making this all about immigration people are letting the socialist failure of Europe off the hook.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

It's an old tactic by leftists. The anti-Soviet nationalists who wanted to be free of the USSR and fought to keep their states independent were called "racists". It was probably the first time that the accusation had been leveled at political opponents on a wide scale, and it's been incredibly effective ever since to the point where even libertarians and conservatives do it. Thankfully, the power the accusation has is on the wane.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

It's called telling the truth. Heresy, I know.

Islam is not compatible with the west, period. There is nothing wrong with stating that fact. Sure, some Muslims are fine and are more culturally Muslim than devout/observant but a huge amount are devout and like their Islamic culture. The UK has set aside days for women only pool days to appease Muslims. They've removed children's books with pig characters to appease Muslims. Whole sections of towns are controlled by Muslims. None of that is acceptable. When in Rome applies. When people emigrate as individuals, they make a conscious choice to leave one culture behind and adopt another. When they are moved like pawns by the social engineers and these mass immigration projects, it's a different matter. As soon as their numbers get big enough they start demanding the host society adapt to their demands and culture. They are being used as weapons to destroy the west.

Interesting, but...cui bono? If Western culture "dies", productivity will die too. That means the globalist elites don't have as many toys, foodstuffs, money, etc as they would otherwise have.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Interesting, but...cui bono? If Western culture "dies", productivity will die too. That means the globalist elites don't have as many toys, foodstuffs, money, etc as they would otherwise have.

I don't think they care...besides, like cops, when times get thin, the elites will always have food and fuel.