Why guys in flip-flops with old rifles so quickly taking down US armed/trained Afghan forces?

[Ender]

Because they are Afghans they refuse to be subjugated.

EXACTLY!

 

[Anti Federalist]

Because they are Afghans they refuse to be subjugated.

Yup, no more difficult than that.

We used to be made of the same stern stock as well.

Now we are too enstupidated and weak and demoralized to even lift a finger to save ourselves.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Here's something to chew on:

The USSR dissolved within two years following their final withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Their dissolution was caused by a number of things, some of which are currently plaguing us:

Massive debt load.

Untenable global empire.

Out of control military spending.

Widespread internal unrest and dissent.

And then there is the UK's withdrawal in 1919, after their own lengthy and equally futile attempt to pacify Afghanistan. That was the beginning of the evening of the day that the sun finally started setting on the British Empire. Not long thereafter, England & Co. became second-fiddle has-beens in the game of global imperium.

The "Graveyard of Empires" sobriquet is quite well-earned. (Yet more evidence, if any is still needed, that even those who know history just end up repeating it anyway.)

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Winner gets the dancing boys ?

ROFLMAO!!!


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to oyarde again.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

'Afghan Army': For 20 years, $Billions per year of US taxpayers money was spent on a Paper Army?


These Billboards (part of US taxpayers funded $Trillion war/training effort) apparently not doing much to deter flip-flop wearing Talibans from entering Kabul:

An Afghan army billboard on display in Kabul, suggesting what the country’s armed forces should have looked like.
Wall Street Journal Aug. 14, 2021

'300,000' strong Afghan army seems to have just vanished into thin air almost instantly.
Maybe US investigative journalists will soon report how many truckloads of US aid was used by Afghan war lords to buy Villas in Dubai.


Taliban enter Afghan capital as US diplomats evacuate by chopper

Afghan president flees the country as Taliban move on Kabul

19 minutes ago
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Afghanistan’s embattled president left the country Sunday, joining his fellow citizens and foreigners in a stampede fleeing the advancing Taliban and signaling the end of a 20-year Western experiment aimed at remaking Afghanistan.

The Taliban, which for hours had been in the outskirts of Kabul, announced soon after they would move further into a city gripped by panic throughout the day as helicopters raced overhead to evacuate personnel from the U.S. Embassy. Smoke rose near the compound as staff destroyed important documents. Several other Western missions also prepared to pull their people out.

apnews.com/article/afghanistan-taliban-kabul-bagram

Because they are Afghans they refuse to be subjugated.

From look of things, even Afghans in US taxpayers funded forces didn't show any interest in fighting on behalf of invaders as soon as invaders started to leave.

 

[Anti Federalist]

And then there is the UK's withdrawal in 1919, after their own lengthy and equally futile attempt to pacify Afghanistan. That was the beginning of the evening of the day that the sun finally started setting on the British Empire. Not long thereafter, England & Co. became second-fiddle has-beens in the game of global imperium.

The "Graveyard of Empires" sobriquet is quite well-earned. (Yet more evidence, if any is still needed, that even those who know history just end up repeating it anyway.)

Yes, it most certainly is.

Good to see you around again, by the way, although I do miss the disapproving banana.

 

[Anti Federalist]

FLASHBACK: President Biden Said Last Month Taliban Retaking Afghanistan Was "Not Inevitable"

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/08/15/flashback_president_biden_said_last_month.html

Posted By Tim Hains
August 15, 2021

President Biden said last month that the Taliban would not quickly retake the country as U.S. troops leave the country.

As of August 15, 2021, the Taliban is poised to retake Kabul within hours or days.

“The Taliban is not the North Vietnamese army. They’re not remotely comparable… There’s gonna be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of an embassy of the United States from Afghanistan” — Joe Biden, 38 days ago

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Ebay bids for this piece of history probably just went up:

TIME MAGAZINE DECEMBER 17 2001 LIKE NEW CONDITION | eBay

FLASHBACK: President Biden Said Last Month Taliban Retaking Afghanistan Was "Not Inevitable"

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/08/15/flashback_president_biden_said_last_month.html

Posted By Tim Hains
August 15, 2021

President Biden said last month that the Taliban would not quickly retake the country as U.S. troops leave the country.

As of August 15, 2021, the Taliban is poised to retake Kabul within hours or days.

“The Taliban is not the North Vietnamese army. They’re not remotely comparable… There’s gonna be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of an embassy of the United States from Afghanistan” — Joe Biden, 38 days ago

That well crafted Biden statement though technically is valid bit it was fakenews in essence.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Something else to chew on:

For years now we have known that one of the primary missions in Afghanistan was guarding the opium poppy fields.

With the new census numbers now out, indicating that the white population in the United States has fallen, for the first time ever in our history, and that one of the significant reasons for this (outside of the ongoing foreign invasion) is the hundreds of thousands of young white people dead from overdoses, could it be perhaps the architects of our genocide have declared "Mission Accomplished".

Because if nothing else, the Taliban government was very effective at shutting down Afghanistan's opium production.

Maybe they figure it's not needed anymore, as Chinese fentanyl has mostly superseded Afghan heroin as the overdosers choice?

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Here's something to chew on:

The USSR dissolved within two years following their final withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Their dissolution was caused by a number of things, some of which are currently plaguing us:

Massive debt load.

Untenable global empire.

Out of control military spending.

Widespread internal unrest and dissent.

Something else to chew on:

For years now we have known that one of the primary missions in Afghanistan was guarding the opium poppy fields.

With the new census numbers now out, indicating that the white population in the United States has fallen, for the first time ever in our history, and that one of the significant reasons for this (outside of the ongoing foreign invasion) is the hundreds of thousands of young white people dead from overdoses, could it be perhaps the architects of our genocide have declared "Mission Accomplished".

Because if nothing else, the Taliban government was very effective at shutting down Afghanistan's opium production.

Maybe they figure it's not needed anymore, as Chinese fentanyl has mostly superseded Afghan heroin as the overdosers choice?

Let's hope current leaders and POTUS (who has heavy weight of history on his shouledrs given Obama-Biden years massive contribution to the mess aka "the good war") will quickly correct course.

Flashback, h/t other esteemed forum members:

08-02-2018

War Is A Racket: After 17 Years and Billions Wasted, US Seeks Peace With Taliban

US and Taliban officials met in Qatar last week to gently move toward ceasefire and possibly peace talks. Meanwhile a US government report on US spending on Afghan reconstruction has found more than $15 billion wasted in just the past 11 years! Someone got rich, many more are poorer. And many are dead. For what?

Funding the Enemy: How U.S. Taxpayers Bankroll the Taliban

US contractor and Pentagon funds aiding Taliban

Killing each Taliban soldier costs $50 Million

Afghan President Karzai Threatened to Join Taliban
cbsnews
Apr 5, 2010 — Afghan President Hamid Karzai threatened over the weekend to quit the political process

Former Afghan President Karzai Calls Islamic State 'Tool' of the US
voanews
Former Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Wednesday called the Islamic State terror group a "tool" of the United States

Trump calls Biden's boss 'Founder of ISIS'

Rumors about Syria, Obama pup masters and some Taliban factions

 

[69360]

Something else to chew on:

For years now we have known that one of the primary missions in Afghanistan was guarding the opium poppy fields.

With the new census numbers now out, indicating that the white population in the United States has fallen, for the first time ever in our history, and that one of the significant reasons for this (outside of the ongoing foreign invasion) is the hundreds of thousands of young white people dead from overdoses, could it be perhaps the architects of our genocide have declared "Mission Accomplished".

Because if nothing else, the Taliban government was very effective at shutting down Afghanistan's opium production.

Maybe they figure it's not needed anymore, as Chinese fentanyl has mostly superseded Afghan heroin as the overdosers choice?

The Taliban gets most of their income from the drug trade.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

The Taliban gets most of their income from the drug trade.

When they were in "opposition", their role and tactics seem to evolve a bit but there have been reports of drug crops going down sharply when they were the "rulling party" and sharply going up after their overthrow/US occupation.

Related

Taliban Getting U.S. Troops Hooked On Heroin

 

[pcosmar]

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From look of things, even Afghans in US taxpayers funded forces didn't show any interest in fighting on behalf of invaders as soon as invaders started to leave.

Collaborators it the Correct term.
and things don't go well for them when the change comes.

 

[pcosmar]

Taliban Getting U.S. Troops Hooked On Heroin[/URL][/B]

LOL

Guys got stoned in Vietnam too..

Years past,, most Heroin addicts got started that way in VA Hospitals.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Couple of theories emerging that might hep explain warp speed Taliban take over of Afganistan, which is more plausible?

Theory 1:

"You know one reason the Taliban are advancing with such ease and speed? They’re travelling on highways and across bridges either built or upgraded by the West over the past two decades, including the stretch of macadam through Kandahar Province constructed by Canadian civilian engineers, security for the project provided by Canadian troops who died on that highway — Route Hyena."
Toronto Star
thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2021/08/14/afghanistans-fate-shouldnt-have-come-to-this-with-a-triumphant-taliban.html



Theory 2:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-Afghanistan&p=7053282&viewfull=1#post7053282

Aug 02, 2021

Taliban hangin' out in China, meeting with top PRC officials
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-taliban-go-tianjin

Mission accomplished.

That significant meeting took place two weeks after 9 Chinese nationals working on Belt n Road project were killed and 28 Chinese wounded in bus blast being blamed on Afghan agency NDS per CNN and SCMP reports. And just two weeks after that meeting, Taliban have swept through much of Afghanistan taking over city after city at lightening fast speed and are entering Kabul today amidst reports of Afghan Prez Ghani fleeing the country. Timing might be just coincidence but stunning pace of developments as China and Taliban appear to be coming closer under "enemy of my enemy is my friend' doctrine:


Crusade against July 14 terrorists to punish whoever attacks Chinese nationals
globaltimes.cn Aug 13, 2021 — The Dasu terrorist attack that killed nine Chinese nationals... The NDS is the largest intelligence agency in Afghanistan.
Nine Chinese nationals were killed in a shuttle bus explosion in ... that India's RAW and Afghan NDS have been involved in the Dasu attack, ...
there was a "nexus of Indian RAW and Afghan NDS" in the attack, ...


Taliban militants kill dozens at Afghan intelligence base
BBC News
Jan 22, 2019 — The attack on the National Directorate for Security (NDS) base in central Wardak province came hours before the Taliban held another round ...

China denounces use of terrorism for geopolitical gains and calls for a united front to uphold regional security interests
Sarah Zheng
13 Aug, 2021
Pakistan’s deputy inspector general of counterterrorism police, said video footage, mobile phone data analysis, investigation of local handlers and facilitators, and forensic examination of the car used in the bombing all revealed that the TTP in Afghanistan had planned this attack. “Senior officers of the RAW and NDS were directing them in Afghanistan,” Iqbal added.
scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3144956/pakistan-blames-indian-and-afghan-spy-agencies-bus-blast


Taliban setup base in Syria to assess needs of Jihad
Sat Jul 13, 2013
According to reports a group of Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) representatives have recently visited Syria in a bid to assess the needs of Jihad and set up a base.
A TTP official quoted by BBC said the base was set up with the assistance of ex-Afghan fighters of Middle Eastern origin who have moved to Syria in recent years.The official further added at least 12 experts in the field of warfare and information technology have moved to Syria in the last two decades.Taliban group has reportedly opened the base in Syria with a sectarian motive, and to support Sunni Muslims who are believed to be oppressed by Sryia’s predominantly Shia rulers. Senior Pakistani Taliban leader, Mohammad Amin in an interview with the BBC confirmed that the cell to monitor “the jihad” in Syria was set up six months ago.
khaama.com/taliban-setup-...-of-jihad-1653

Ron Paul blasts Obama for funding al-Qaeda in Syria
Jun 16, 2013 -
Ron Paul blasts Obama for funding al-Qaeda in Syria ... U.S. officials said that the decision to arm the militants in Syria had been made weeks ...


It never was just about Afghanistan. The US, China and India have a lot to lose
14 Aug 2021
Bloomberg
As the Taliban take over the country, other jihadist groups are already carrying out attacks in the region. Chinese interests are the first in line.
The spillover has already begun, before the Taliban have even reached Kabul. City after city is falling as the Islamist insurgents draw closer to the capital.
“Central Asian jihadists have been flexing their muscle, anti-China jihadists have attacked Chinese personal in Pakistan, more regional violence is extremely plausible — the threat is ongoing, and we are just talking about an escalation from this point onwards".
Chinese interests in Pakistan have already taken a hit. In April, a car bomb exploded at a luxury hotel hosting Beijing’s ambassador in Quetta, not far from Taliban strongholds in southern Afghanistan. The attack was claimed by the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan, or the Pakistani Taliban, a loosely organized terrorist group with ties to al-Qaeda, based along the vast Afghan-Pakistan border.

Last month, a bomb blast on a bus traveling to a dam and hydro-electric project in Dasu, near the Pakistan border with China, killed 12 people, including nine Chinese citizens. No one has claimed responsibility, but Beijing was so concerned that it hosted Taliban representatives for a meeting with Foreign Minister Wang Yi. At stake is $60 billion in projects in the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, a crucial part of President Xi Jinping’s wider Belt and Road Initiative, along with significant Chinese mining interests inside Afghanistan.
While this wasn’t the Taliban’s first visit to China, the seniority of the Chinese representatives was unprecedented, as was the very public message that Beijing recognizes the group as a legitimate political force, Yun Sun, the Stimson Center think tank’s China program director, noted this week in an essay on the national security platform, War on the Rocks. After posing for photographs with the group’s co-founder and deputy leader Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, Wang described the Taliban as “a crucial military and political force in Afghanistan that is expected to play an important role in the peace, reconciliation, and reconstruction process of the country."


Afghan president flees the country as Taliban move on Kabul

Aug 15, 2021
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Afghanistan’s embattled president left the country Sunday, joining his fellow citizens and foreigners in a stampede fleeing the advancing Taliban and signaling the end of a 20-year Western experiment aimed at remaking Afghanistan.
The Taliban, which for hours had been in the outskirts of Kabul, announced soon after they would move further into a city gripped by panic throughout the day as helicopters raced overhead to evacuate personnel from the U.S. Embassy. Smoke rose near the compound as staff destroyed important documents. Several other Western missions also prepared to pull their people out.
apnews.com/article/afghanistan-taliban-kabul-bagram

 

[pcosmar]

The Taliban gets most of their income from the drug trade.

The Taliban had nearly eliminated Opium production in Afghanistan, prior to the Invasion..
Poppies protected by us troops was for US Drug Dealers.

 

[69360]

The Taliban had nearly eliminated Opium production in Afghanistan, prior to the Invasion..
Poppies protected by us troops was for US Drug Dealers.

I don't know where you are getting your news, but the Taliban are one of the world's largest heroin cartels, to the tune of billions of dollars a year. They are also moving into meth.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

The Taliban gets most of their income from the drug trade.

This sounds too stunning, let's wait for confirmation from more reliable MSM sources like CNN, NYT, Foxnews etc.

U.S., allies tolerate Afghan opium farms lest troops lose popular support
Mar 25, 2010
cleveland.com/world/2010/03/us_allies_hesitate_to_uproot_a.html

Former Blackwater gets rich as Afghan drug production hits record high

Foreign Policy


02-02-2014
The newz is rife with heroin stories....

Killing for Opium: If You Speak Out, You’re ‘Suicided’

Rise of the Taliban (1994–2001)
The Taliban enforced a ban on poppy farming via threats, forced eradication, and public punishment of transgressors. The result was a 99% reduction in the area of opium poppy farming in Taliban-controlled areas, roughly three quarters of the world's supply of heroin at the time.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanistan


Afghanistan opium crop cultivation rises 36 per cent

 

[oyarde]

For the last twenty years they are the worlds leader in producing heroin and hashish, rumors are the taliban poppy ban lasted about a yr ( 2001)

 

[pcosmar]

I don't know where you are getting your news, but the Taliban are one of the world's largest heroin cartels, to the tune of billions of dollars a year. They are also moving into meth.

I would have to wonder where you are getting your information..CIA owns Meth.

And PHUCK your stupid Lying Bull$hit..

There has not been good product from there since the Russians invaded.
Once upon a time (70s.)

Good hash and some slightly opiated was available..
When the Afghans ran the Russians OUT,, the Taliban (Religious Leaders) took over and decimated Opium production..
For religious reason..

Opium production resumed and increased under US protections.

AND I Phucking miss good Afghan Hash.