Why Does Rand Get So Much Favorable Coverage When Ron Doesn't?

[acptulsa]

The reason why Rand is more popular among the right than Ron can be summed up in two words:

Overton Window

That and the fact that Ron got popular during a Republican administration and Rand got popular during a Democrat administration.

But regarding the Overton Window, it's clear whenever the two speak. Rand just has that political sensibility that subtly tempers what he says.

Now I want you to tell me who shoved that window open far enough that Rand could shove anything of substance through it at all.

Come on. Let's have it. You know who did that deed.

 

[Justinjj1]

Because they don't see Rand as a threat to them. Ive never even heard Rand use the phrase "neocon", whereas Ron calls them out all the time. To my knowledge, Rand has never called for an outright abolition of the Federal Reserve, an abolition of the income tax, closing down all overseas military bases, he doesn't criticize Israel, he never uses the term "military-industrial complex".

If Rand ever gives an interview like Ron did on Meet the Press, then I will guarantee that his honeymoon with the neocons will be over very quickly.

I watch this interview every few weeks because I can't get enough of its awesomeness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saDw03JXigA

 

[BamaFanNKy]

Now I want you to tell me who shoved that window open far enough that Rand could shove anything of substance through it at all.

Come on. Let's have it. You know who did that deed.

You Rang?

Seriously, Sen. Paul was able to have his message to sell because we have a Democrat President. If he was running while G.W.B. was in office and said this, they would have pushed him away like his father.

 

[Nathan Hale]

Now I want you to tell me who shoved that window open far enough that Rand could shove anything of substance through it at all.

Come on. Let's have it. You know who did that deed.

Gimme an R, Gimme an O, Gimme an N, Gimme a P, Gimme a A, Gimme a U, Gimme an L! What's that spell??? RON PAUL!!!! What's that spell?! RON PAUL!!!!

 

[acptulsa]

Gimme an R, Gimme an O, Gimme an N, Gimme a P, Gimme a A, Gimme a U, Gimme an L! What's that spell??? RON PAUL!!!! What's that spell?! RON PAUL!!!!

Very correct. And after trying to get that window even a little farther open for decades and failing, I reserve the right to cheer my lungs out when someone does better than I did.

I also reserve the right to believe he's doing something right, and shouldn't be stopped now.

 

[Nathan Hale]

Very correct. And after trying to get that window even a little farther open for decades and failing, I reserve the right to cheer my lungs out when someone does better than I did.

I also reserve the right to believe he's doing something right, and shouldn't be stopped now.

And I agree with everything you say above.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

People act differently towards different people. Ron has been chastising the right for so long and so harshly. The people on the right know that Ron is correct but people will have a hard time admitting that to Ron or agreeing with Ron because as human beings it's somehow harder to admit or agree when one has been harsh with you or critical of you..

So here comes Rand. Saying all the same things as dad in a smoother way without the criticizing.. and since he comes with no prior history of attacking anybody it is much easier to get people to agree with him.

Its why back in the day Hannity would be more angry with a Ron Paul who would attack him from the political right than with say a lefty hippie socialist who would attack him from the political left.

 

[sailingaway]

People act differently towards different people. Ron has been chastising the right for so long and so harshly. The people on the right know that Ron is correct but people will have a hard time admitting that to Ron or agreeing with Ron because as human beings it's somehow harder to admit or agree when one has been harsh with you or critical of you..

So here comes Rand. Saying all the same things as dad in a smoother way without the criticizing.. and since he comes with no prior history of attacking anybody it is much easier to get people to agree with him.

Its why back in the day Hannity would be more angry with a Ron Paul who would attack him from the political right than with say a lefty hippie socialist who would attack him from the political left.

That is part of it, I agree. But Ron's purity also galvanizes people. He really DID start the tea parties, and launched numerous political careers and new activists across the nation. If neither Ron nor Rand will win the presidency this time around, Ron, imho will have the larger impact on the future dialog, will inspire waves of more people and will make the future more receptive to the liberty message. However, once he does that, Rand is the one who is likely to someday be president. But I think, in the end, he needs more support than there exists now (given the other flavors of tea party candidates running), and Ron, and his ripple effect, can galvanize that.

Playing it safe convinces people at the margin, but doesn't inspire others to their own individual action in the same way, and to me, that is the main difference between Ron and Rand. I like them both, and I would vote for either. But Ron inspires me.

However, Ron is getting older, and may not want to run. If he decides not to, as soon as he says that, fewer people will go to listen to him at events, and he will have less opportunity to galvanize people and get them on board. Perhaps that is part of why he doesn't mind taking his time to announce, one way or the other.

 

[vita3]

"Because they don't see Rand as a threat to them"

Agreed.

 

[jazzloversinc]

Like I said...2 things. Palin endorsed him and he said he supports Israel. No facepalms please.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Like I said...2 things. Palin endorsed him and he said he supports Israel. No facepalms please.

........



Please stop talking.

 

[Kludge]

Because Rand won his top political aspiration and always had a great chance? Can't really marginalize someone who's actually popular with the majority. That'd just be bad for ratings.

How often is Ron Paul marginalized with regards to his House seat he has no trouble holding?

 

[BamaFanNKy]

Like I said...2 things. Palin endorsed him and he said he supports Israel. No facepalms please.

I don't think that means what you think it means.

 

[acptulsa]

Especially if you think 'Palin endorsed him' to mean anything at all. Except, of course, that he's a popular Republican.

 

[K Elaine]

Media like shiny new people. But the tea party should help keep up the urgency of things.

 

[BamaFanNKy]

+1 for Marcus Carey explaining it partially.
http://www.bluegrassbulletin.com/2011/03/my-take-on-rand-paul-for-president.html

 

[sailingaway]

+1 for Marcus Carey explaining it partially.
http://www.bluegrassbulletin.com/2011/03/my-take-on-rand-paul-for-president.html

but Marcus says this, maybe it's a typo:

During the 2008 presidential race I was having a conversation with a colleague in San Diego. She is a social progressive, she is a vegan, Jewish and quite the free thinker. For the most part I would have suspected this combination of factors to mean that she was a democrat, though I never asked.

While discussing the various candidates for president she surprised me by raising the probability that Ron Paul would make the better leader and went on to explain why. Her logic was spot on, her passion for America's future vibrant. And the points she made in 2008 are even more compelling today.

So Marcus seems to be saying this is potentially a good year for a RON Paul type candidate, and is putting Rand (rightly) into that category. But it doesn't address the difference in coverage between Ron and Rand, except to say that the ideas have become more popular now.... which maybe IS what he is saying.

Whatever. I think we will find out who is running, not determine it.

 

[Kombaiyashii]

smoking da weed

 

[pochy1776]

A. Rand is willing to associate himself as a "Constitutional Conservative" he even said that he is not a libertarian. B. Neocons love these kind of people because they give the illusion of unity and diversity.

 

[acptulsa]

smoking da weed

Probably. They probably think what gets a pass in Kentucky can torpedo him nationally. So, they don't have to black him out. They can set him up for a fall instead.

Or maybe I need my tinfoil hat.