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[Travlyr]

And Lincoln supported a national bank!

He would have loved the Fed. It would enable his big government agenda. He would have also loved the income tax.

Lincoln supported, at age 26, an audited State Bank of Illinois. He also supported internal improvements greater than what was literally possible... as did almost everyone in the legislatures of the young States at the time. Read history and you'll learn just how popular internal improvements were in the United States in the 1830s. The lesson he learned from that, the lesson that all the legislators of the time learned from that, was that over expansion, too much spending, too big of ideas, was counterproductive. As a consequence of their (virtually everyone's) hope for progress at the time, (when Jackson ended the banks) the States began a program of outlawing internal improvements except for road building, river and harbor improvements, and railroad building. Lincoln loved the Constitution and would have obeyed it faithfully if not for the South firing on Fort Sumter. Of course you wouldn't know any of that because you read DiLorenzo's lies and ignore Lincoln's documented history. Your claims are unfounded. Lincoln was a strong States Rights defender.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

And Lincoln supported a national bank!

He would have loved the Fed. It would enable his big government agenda. He would have also loved the income tax.

Not surprisingly, Aaron Copland supported the war (WWII) effort by writing "Lincoln Portrait"-a classic propaganda piece. Who better to inspire a piece for a war of aggression like WWII than the first great aggressive war-mongering POTUS.

 

[Ender]

Lincoln supported, at age 26, an audited State Bank of Illinois. He also supported internal improvements greater than what was literally possible... as did almost everyone in the legislatures of the young States at the time. Read history and you'll learn just how popular internal improvements were in the United States in the 1830s. The lesson he learned from that, the lesson that all the legislators of the time learned from that, was that over expansion, too much spending, too big of ideas, was counterproductive. As a consequence of their (virtually everyone's) hope for progress at the time, (when Jackson ended the banks) the States began a program of outlawing internal improvements except for road building, river and harbor improvements, and railroad building. Lincoln loved the Constitution and would have obeyed it faithfully if not for the South firing on Fort Sumter. Of course you wouldn't know any of that because you read DiLorenzo's lies and ignore Lincoln's documented history. Your claims are unfounded. Lincoln was a strong States Rights defender.

Fort Sumter was a setup by Lincoln to justify war. Lincoln did NOT love the Constitution and is the president most responsible for the destruction of said document and the loss of freedom of the states.

It is obvious that ya'll have an agenda against real history and love to flaunt some of Lincoln's words when it is well known that the man used his words to further his agenda, just like all politicians. How did one know Lincoln was lying? His lips were moving.

Why don't you start your own anti-freedom Lincoln blog and stop with the trillion Lincoln threads on this forum?

 

[itshappening]

Lincoln loved the constitution!

I can't stop laughing!

He loved it except for the first amendment, the second, the fourth and so on...

He probably violated it more than any president in history and destroyed the principle that the American Union was explicitly voluntary and the states were (are) sovereign entities.

 

[talkingpointes]

Travlyr - Do you realize it's Lew that made the Mises Institute and has made it now what it is. (With Ron's help of course)

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Lincoln loved the constitution!

I can't stop laughing!

He loved it except for the first amendment, the second, the fourth and so on...

He probably violated it more than any president in history and destroyed the principle that the American Union was explicitly voluntary and the states were (are) sovereign entities.

+rep He loved it so much he killed it

 

[Travlyr]

Fort Sumter was a setup by Lincoln to justify war. Lincoln did NOT love the Constitution and is the president most responsible for the destruction of said document and the loss of freedom of the states.

It is obvious that ya'll have an agenda against real history and love to flaunt some of Lincoln's words when it is well known that the man used his words to further his agenda, just like all politicians. How did one know Lincoln was lying? His lips were moving.

Why don't you start your own anti-freedom Lincoln blog and stop with the trillion Lincoln threads on this forum?

The facts of history do not support your nonsense.

 

[Ender]

The facts of history do not support your nonsense.

The facts of history certainly do.

Real history is a bit different than your high school history education. Sorry about that.

 

[Travlyr]

Travlyr - Do you realize it's Lew that made the Mises Institute and has made it now what it is. (With Ron's help of course)

By going against the philosophy of Ludwig von Mises?

The organization of human society according to the pattern most suitable for the attainment of the ends in view is a quite prosaic and matter-of-fact question, not unlike, say, the construction of a railroad or the production of cloth or furniture. National and governmental affairs are, it is true, more important than all other practical questions of ' human conduct, since the social order furnishes the foundation for everything else, and it is possible for each individual to prosper in the pursuit of his ends only in a society propitious for their attainment. But however lofty may be the sphere in which political and social questions are placed, they still refer to matters that are subject to human control and must consequently be judged according to the canons of human reason. In such matters, no less than in all our other mundane affairs, mysticism is only an evil. Our powers of comprehension are very limited. We cannot hope ever to discover the ultimate and most profound secrets of the universe. But the fact that we can never fathom the meaning and purpose of our existence does not hinder us from taking precautions to avoid contagious diseases or from making use of the appropriate means to feed and clothe ourselves, nor should it deter us from organizing society in such a way that the earthly goals for which we strive can be most effectually attained. Even the state and the legal system, the government and its administration are not too lofty, too good, too grand, for us to bring them within the range of rational deliberation. Problems of social policy are problems of social technology, and their solution must be sought in the same ways and by the same means that are at our disposal in the solution of other technical problems: by rational reflection and by examination of the given conditions. All that man is and all that raises him above the animals he owes to his reason. Why should he forgo the use of reason just in the sphere of social policy and trust to vague and obscure feelings and impulses?

I think not.

 

[Travlyr]

The facts of history certainly do.

Real history is a bit different than your high school history education. Sorry about that.

Read the Confederate Constitution. Where is secession allowed?

 

[Travlyr]

The facts of history certainly do.

Real history is a bit different than your high school history education. Sorry about that.

Read the words of Lincoln. Does this sound like a warmonger to you?

In your hands, my dissatisfied fellow-countrymen, and not in mine, is the momentous issue of civil war. The Government will not assail you. You can have no conflict without being yourselves the aggressors. You have no oath registered in heaven to destroy the Government, while I shall have the most solemn one to "preserve, protect, and defend it."

I am loath to close. We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature.

 

[Travlyr]

Lincoln loved the constitution!

I can't stop laughing!

He loved it except for the first amendment, the second, the fourth and so on...

He probably violated it more than any president in history and destroyed the principle that the American Union was explicitly voluntary and the states were (are) sovereign entities.

^^^ Does not like history homework.

 

[talkingpointes]

Lincoln supported, at age 26, an audited State Bank of Illinois. He also supported internal improvements greater than what was literally possible... as did almost everyone in the legislatures of the young States at the time. Read history and you'll learn just how popular internal improvements were in the United States in the 1830s. The lesson he learned from that, the lesson that all the legislators of the time learned from that, was that over expansion, too much spending, too big of ideas, was counterproductive. As a consequence of their (virtually everyone's) hope for progress at the time, (when Jackson ended the banks) the States began a program of outlawing internal improvements except for road building, river and harbor improvements, and railroad building. Lincoln loved the Constitution and would have obeyed it faithfully if not for the South firing on Fort Sumter. Of course you wouldn't know any of that because you read DiLorenzo's lies and ignore Lincoln's documented history. Your claims are unfounded. Lincoln was a strong States Rights defender.

The number of people that are finally going to ignore you might actually picque with this number. Also before you call DiLorenzo a liar maybe you can post your book about Lincoln, or proof that he is fabricating stories in his book. You quite often piece together things that have no correlation and logic, but this just seems like you might be butthurt people question your idol and in the process you have lost it trying to take down people far bigger and more important than yourself to try to give yourself the same stature - I don't buy it./

 

[Travlyr]

The number of people that are finally going to ignore you might actually picque with this number. Also before you call DiLorenzo a liar maybe you can post your book about Lincoln, or proof that his is fabricating stories in his book. You quite often piece together things that have no correlation and logic, but this just seems like you might be butthurt people question your idol and in the process you have lost it trying to take down people far bigger and more important than yourself to try to give yourself the same stature - I don't buy it./

Don't be stupid. Lincoln is not my idol. Lincoln was a man that does not deserve to be trashed by lies of liars. History proves that Lincoln was nothing like DiLorenzo's "The Real Lincoln." Only people who don't like history homework buy into his lies.

 

[Travlyr]

Fort Sumter was a setup by Lincoln to justify war. Lincoln did NOT love the Constitution and is the president most responsible for the destruction of said document and the loss of freedom of the states.

It is obvious that ya'll have an agenda against real history and love to flaunt some of Lincoln's words when it is well known that the man used his words to further his agenda, just like all politicians. How did one know Lincoln was lying? His lips were moving.

Why don't you start your own anti-freedom Lincoln blog and stop with the trillion Lincoln threads on this forum?

I ask you, and I have asked this of several people here to tell us "What would you have done if you were in Lincoln's shoes on March 4, 1861?" No one seems to be able to answer that question.

Also, smarty pants, what aggressive act did Abraham Lincoln commit against ANY human being prior to April 12, 1861? If you don't come up with one, then I'll know you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Travlyr]

Travlyr - Do you realize it's Lew that made the Mises Institute and has made it now what it is. (With Ron's help of course)

You negative rep me because I did not post "proof" that Abraham Lincoln wrote audit the bank legislation? How childish. Do you have Google where you live?

Here you go lazy in history homework dude.

It is public record. http://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/lincoln1/1:67?rgn=div1;view=fulltext

Amendment to an Act to Incorporate the Subscribers to the Bank of the State of Illinois [1]

[December 22, 1835]
SEC 5 The said corporation shall, at the next session of this General Assembly, and at each subsequent general session, during the existence of it's charter, report to the same, the amount of debts due from said corporation, the amount of debts due to the same, the amount of specie in it's vaults, and and [sic] an account of all lands then owned by the same, and the amount for which such lands have been taken: and moreover, if said corporation shall, at any time neglect or refuse, to submit it's books, papers, and all and every thing necessary to a full and fair examination of it's affairs, to any person or persons appointed by the General Assembly for the purpose of making such examination, the said corporation shall forfeit it's charter. - A. Lincoln

 

[mac_hine]

Travlyr, Either you're intellectually blind, a liar, or just a troll. Either way, Lincoln, beyond any doubt, was a tyrant and a racist.

That is a fact.

“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”~The Great Emancipator

Your dislike of Dilorenzo/Rockwell is irrational.

We don't beg for scraps at the imperial table.

We don't seek a seat at that table.

We want to knock the table over. ~Lew Rockwell

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Read DiLorenzo!

-Ron Paul

 

[Travlyr]

Travlyr, Either you're intellectually blind, a liar, or just a troll. Either way, Lincoln, beyond any doubt, was a tyrant and a racist.

That is a fact.

Your dislike of Dilorenzo/Rockwell is irrational.

Baloney. I invite you to go to Charleston, Illinois, a college town, and look at the 1960 yearbooks. I will bet you one silver dollar that you will not find more than 5 black folks in the 1960 High School yearbook. You may not find any. That is 100 years after Lincoln debated Douglas at the County Fair.

I do not have a dislike for DiLorenzo. I have a hate for his lies about Lincoln just like I have a hate for the 2012 media lies about Ron Paul.

 

[mac_hine]

Travlyr, Do you have a problem with Jeffrey Tucker or Joseph Fallon as well?



Laissez Faire Books' Jeffrey Tucker meets with Joseph Fallon, author of Lincoln Uncensored -- selections from 10 volumes of Lincoln's own speeches and letters -- which is distributed by the Laissez Faire Club (LFB.org/club). The book is free with Club membership. His book is also available through Amazon.