Why are we supposed to be against the Koch Brothers again?

[NewRightLibertarian]

I can. Remember that crony-capitalism involves buying off government representatives so that they will pass laws that benefit you.

It is immoral.

Yep, and that is what the Koch Bros are all about. They have been failures at working the system to pass libertarian reforms. Their strategy has been a failure through their thinktanks. But they have given money to some of the worst anti-libertarian Republican politicians you could ever imagine. So they try to grease the system. Any liberty-minded people who follows these people and their groups (Ed Crane ain't any better) over the Mises & JBS crew that includes the Pauls is tremendously misguided.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I do agree with them though, that we need to be engaged in Washington, D.C. Ron Paul has been serving as a one-man Mises Institute by having his educational lunches. When he is no longer there, the only place that say, new congressman, will have available to them in D.C. is CATO. I really wish the Mises Institute had a presence there and made themselves available.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

I do agree with them though, that we need to be engaged in Washington, D.C. Ron Paul has been serving as a one-man Mises Institute by having his educational lunches. When he is no longer there, the only place that say, new congressman, will have available to them in D.C. is CATO. I really wish the Mises Institute had a presence there and made themselves available.

Ron's made it so liberty candidates can get elected as long as we stay active and focused. We don't need a beltway thinktank apparatus to promote our views because we have the grassroots that can raise money and fund patriot candidates. Mises Institute had the right idea staying out of that toxic cesspool known as D.C. IMO

 

[onlyrp]

They're our friends when they're anti-Obama, anti-tax, anti-global warming, anti-health care, and Tea Party. But they're our biggest enemies when they're neocons, anti-corporate tax, anti-OWS.

 

[Son of Detroit]

anti-corporate tax, anti-OWS.

 

[Carson]

Because the liberals say your suppose too?

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

onlyrp is an obvious troll that somehow hasn't been banned yet, don't worry about the nonsense that he says

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

Because the liberals say your suppose too?

It's already been explained by many people in this thread. You read it?

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Cato Institute does not suck. The Koch Brothers may be trying to turn it into a mouth piece for the GOP but that doesn't mean they suck.

That ship sailed 30 years ago.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Ron's made it so liberty candidates can get elected as long as we stay active and focused. We don't need a beltway thinktank apparatus to promote our views because we have the grassroots that can raise money and fund patriot candidates. Mises Institute had the right idea staying out of that toxic cesspool known as D.C. IMO

Again, Dr. Paul did not feel that way, or he wouldn't have been hosting educational lunches on economics for years on end.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

Again, Dr. Paul did not feel that way, or he wouldn't have been hosting educational lunches on economics for years on end.

Yeah, he's been educating people toward his version of libertarianism so beltway libertarianism can be put down for good.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Yeah, he's been educating people toward his version of libertarianism so beltway libertarianism can be put down for good.

That's right and it needs to continue. By SOMEONE. Thus, my initial comment about wishing the Mises Institute had a presence in D.C.

 

[Tinnuhana]

Ron could drop by once in a while, stay at Rand's apartment LOL and help with the luncheons. Of course, if he's at the WH, he can help get someone else started since he's in town.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

That's right and it needs to continue. By SOMEONE. Thus, my initial comment about wishing the Mises Institute had a presence in D.C.

That's where LvMI was until Lew and crew decided to move to Auburn.

 

[dbill27]

One of the koch brothers ran on the libertarian ticket as vp in the 80's. They're platform at the time included eliminating the federal reserve, CIA, FDA, DEA, and the EPA among other things. So, they can't be all bad.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

One of the koch brothers ran on the libertarian ticket as vp in the 80's. They're platform at the time included eliminating the federal reserve, CIA, FDA, DEA, and the EPA among other things. So, they can't be all bad.

They've since abandoned those views to become establishment whores.

That's right and it needs to continue. By SOMEONE. Thus, my initial comment about wishing the Mises Institute had a presence in D.C.

Why do they have to be in D.C. to spread liberty? We can fund liberty candidates throughout the country without having a presence in that cesspool

 

[moderate libertarian]

Serious question.

They fund FreedomWorks, Reason Foundation, Cato Institute, Institute for Justice. Not sure why we're supposed to be against them exactly. Seems like Lew Rockwell just hates them because they aren't anarchists.

[Oops...meant to post this in General Politics. If mod sees this please move it there.]

FreedomWorls founder was a pro Palestinian-ethnic-cleansing, notorious racist if I'm not mistaken.
Kochies don't seem much better either.

http://alexbkane.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/koch-brothers-also-funding-islamophobia/

Koch Brothers Also Funding Islamophobia

Now, more has emerged about the Koch brothers’ agenda, and it’s not just limited to advocating for “drastically lower personal and corporate taxes, minimal social services for the needy, and much less oversight of industry—especially environmental regulation.” An investigation by CounterPunch‘s Pam Martens has revealed that “a secretive libertarian nonprofit with ties to Charles Koch bankrolled what was widely perceived to be a fear mongering effort to throw the Presidential election to Senator John McCain in 2008.”

The “fear mongering effort” in question was the documentary “Obsession: Radical Islam’s War Against the West,” which was distributed to millions of people in “swing states” around the country in the run-up to the 2008 presidential election through corporate newspapers. The documentary has been condemned as anti-Muslim, and features interviews with notorious Islamophobes such as Steven Emerson, Daniel Pipes and Caroline Glick.

Not sure of they are hardcore pimps of war/occupation lobbies but look like suspected neocons.

 

[pcgame]

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[KingNothing]

I love Reason, and I think CATO is tremendous. I also love LRC, and think I LvMI is tremendous.

You're lying to yourself if you think Reason and CATO never put out really great, Liberty-oriented pieces. They may have released some pieces that you dislike, but they're definitely trying to move things in the right direction.

 

[angelatc]

I can't blame them for playing the system...

That's the way I feel about it If you want to play a game, you will lose if you don't play using the same rules that everybody else does. The liberals detest them, so I consider them any ally.