Why are we Republicans?

[AJ Antimony]

But Ron Paul was not a Democrat. He never was a Democrat. He supported Ronald Reagan way back in 1976. What Ron Paul is and always has been is a Conservative, and in 1988, he got pissed off (or something) and ran as a Libertarian. For most of his political life he was a Conservative Republican, solidly in the tradition of other Conservative Republicans. There is no Conservative Democrat tradition that Ron Paul was a part of.

Agree with the other stuff.

I wasn't claiming he was a Democrat. You're right, he never was.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Democrats think about the world in groups while Republicans think about the world in individuals.

Democrats always feel the need to help a group who is statistically below the majority by using govt, usually making the situation worse or destroying liberty in the process.

The anti-liberty side of republicans the theocrats usually are anti-liberty to "protect the children" from some imaginary threat(drugs, porn, becoming gay, etc.)

I am also surprised no one has said anything about Kucinich. I would hope in the future, elections would be ron paul republicans vs kucinich democrats, Theyd agree on some issues (Fed) and disagree on others but it would be a real debate and goldman sachs wouldnt be invited.

Well stated. I prefer Glen Greenwald democrats to all others.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I understand what you are saying, but me, personally, I fail to see any difference.

In either case, regardless of name assigned, they are:

1 - Generally in favor of increasing the power and scope of government.

2 - Are comfortable with the concept of world government.

3 - Are in favor of using US military power unilaterally to foster "regime change".

4 - Are generally supportive of or "comfortable" with the welfare state.

They are "neo" conservatives. meaning the "new" conservatives.

Buckley and his ilk purged the "old" conservatives decades ago, and we've been out in the wilderness and still very much unwelcome, since then.

No no no.

Irving Kristol is not Eastern Establishment.

Neocon came from the Democrat party. Kristol was on a Hubert Humphrey task force in 1968, in 1972 he supported Nixon, and in 1973 the socialist Michael Harrington called him a neoconservative.

You're talking about something other than neocon. Neocon is the specific "spread democracy by force" doctrine, which I think translates to "we can attack anybody we want for any reason or no reason at all. Bush called it a Wilsonian policy. This was not Dewey.

Yes, it is absolutely true that the "moderate Eastern Republicans" or "Eastern Establishment" has not liked Conservatives. That's the story of the last 72 years, yes. But Dewey wasn't a neocon. No doubt that the Eastern Establishment, Country Club Republicans, RINOs, GOP-E, Rockefeller Republicans have been opposed to the Conservatives - Taft, Goldwater, Reagan, Paul. That's the story. But neocon is distinct from realist as a foreign policy. Dewey doesn't sound all that different from Reagan, and Bush most certainly was different from Reagan.

No. There are 2 big government groups in the Republican Party. The "Rockefeller Republicans" and the neoconservatives. The Rockefeller Republicans are the eastern establishment repubs. If you watch, you will notice that they will speak out against the neoconservative foreign policy. Oh, they want global government, but they don't agree with how the neoconservatives are going about it.

The third group were the Goldwater-Republicans, which were the limited government folks. These were the traditional conservatives.

 

[pcosmar]

Why are we Republicans?

I am Independent.
Though I have often voted "R",, I have been grossly disappointed each and every time.
They have never kept a campaign promise on any issues that concern me. Often doing the exact opposite.

Ron chose to run in the party as a vehicle. That is fine, but I have no loyalty to the party at all.
I am voting for the man.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Can anyone tell me? Is it merely because Ron Paul is a Republican? Is it because we see the Republican Party as more willing to bend to our demand of personal freedoms? Is it merely an alignment with a party that is against Obama?

Why are we concentrating all our efforts on the Republican Party? Or am I wrong, is it possible to vote for a Democrat that supports our cause?

If the worse comes to pass and Ron Paul is shut out.. do we stay strictly Republicans?

I like what John Dennis said when he was asked in 2010 why he said he was running as a Republican. He said he did it because the Republican platform had at least the thought of liberty in it, whereas the Democratic platform didn't. I wish I could find the exact quote...it was good.

 

[SilenceDewgooder]

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[georgiaboy]

This video should sum it up.

indeed.

 

[CaseyCBenn]

That video....

That video....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WrnGnwuqOA8

.... is testament to how horrible the left is at keeping any of their axioms straight in even the same conversation.

Sachs and co. sit and use Europe as some gold standard when they reference why the USA needs to copy their healthcare system. He states "Other countries have better and cheaper healthcare coverage and more government so why does the USA want to go the other way?".

Then with a straight face around 5-6 minutes.... he says plainly.... "Europe is a mess right now".

Is there no correlation between the fact that the Euro (currency) is failing because of these large governments and their overreaching health care and social programs are killing the currency because they have to keep making/printing more to try and cover the budget shortfalls?

Its amazing to me that Dr Paul has already made an example of that here and no one is connecting the Euro failure to the large govts and socialist programs in precisely the same manner.

 

[specsaregood]

Why are we Republicans?

Today, despite being the majority party in the house, every single republican congressman except 1 voted for the complete fed audit bill.