Why are the Bolsheviks pushing for felon's voting restoration?

[Swordsmyth]

List his felony convictions.

 

[pcosmar]

Pay no attention to Venezuela. Hey, look, isn't that willie horton over there?!?

Alumni

Charles “Sonny” Liston – In 1950, Charles Liston arrived at the Missouri State Penitentiary. He was serving time for two charges of robbery with a deadly weapon and two charges of larceny. Liston was illiterate, one of 17 children, and had rarely held a job. While incarcerated, Liston, soon known as “Sonny,” found his niche in life; he learned to box, and he fought very well. One day the publisher of a St. Louis newspaper saw Liston box and thought he showed promise as a professional. The next day he contacted the Board of Probation and Parole. If Liston could be released on parole, the publisher promised, he would personally see that Sonny received a job and training as a boxer. So Sonny Liston was released on parole in 1952 and his rise to success was meteoric. He learned to read and write a bit and his associations with businessmen and managers taught him grooming and polish. He lived and trained at the Pine Street YMCA and began working at Scullins Steel until he could support himself from his earning as a pro boxer. Almost immediately, Liston was entered into the Golden Gloves Amateur Boxing Tournament, held in St. Louis. He won, and then went on to win the National Heavyweight Championship in Chicago in 1953.

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[TheCount]

List his felony convictions.

So you would say that no president has ever had criminal tendencies?

Interesting.

 

[Swordsmyth]

So you would say that no president has ever had criminal tendencies?

Interesting.

I didn't say that.

 

[CCTelander]

List his felony convictions.

Moving the goalposts eh? Tendencies have become convictions now? Typically disingenuous.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Moving the goalposts eh? Tendencies have become convictions now. Typically disingenuous.

LOL

The only people I said for sure had criminal tendencies were those that had been convicted of legitimate felonies and they are the only ones I said should not be allowed to vote.

You are moving the goalposts and accusing me of doing so at the same time, that's some pretty heavy spin.

 

[Origanalist]

It's been suggested, I understand that point of view and I absolutely agree about the guns part but I believe that those with serious criminal tendencies can't be entrusted with the power of government.

Your every other post is sig material. Who the hell do you think we have in government, boy scouts?

 

[Origanalist]

LOL

The only people I said for sure had criminal tendencies were those that had been convicted of legitimate felonies and they are the only ones I said should not be allowed to vote.

You are moving the goalposts and accusing me of doing so at the same time, that's some pretty heavy spin.

And like usual, you're totally full of shit.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Your every other post is sig material. Who the hell do you think we have in government, boy scouts?

We can't exclude people until they are caught and convicted.

Why would we want to leave the people who have been caught and convicted in the voter/candidate pool?

 

[Swordsmyth]

And like usual, you're totally full of $#@!.

Show me where I have said that anyone but those convicted of legitimate felonies should be excluded from voting or holding office because they have criminal tendencies.

 

[Origanalist]

Show me where I have said that anyone but those convicted of legitimate felonies should be excluded from voting or holding office because they have criminal tendencies.

Don't try your stupid word games with me boy.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Don't try your stupid word games with me boy.

LOL

 

[Wooden Indian]

It's been suggested, I understand that point of view and I absolutely agree about the guns part but I believe that those with serious criminal tendencies can't be entrusted with the power of government.

My point being that if they truly have displayed and been convicted of these "serious criminal tendencies", to the point they cannot be trusted at a voting booth, why do we trust them living among our loved ones?

If they're so bad they can't vote or possess firearms, why are they not in a cage or dead?

 

[Anti Federalist]

My point being that if they truly have displayed and been convicted of these "serious criminal tendencies", to the point they cannot be trusted at a voting booth, why do we trust them living among our loved ones?

If they're so bad they can't vote or possess firearms, why are they not in a cage or dead?

That's a legitimate point, worthy of discussion.

Voting isn't a "right".

I am for having persons convicted, once having served their sentence, having all "natural" rights restored.

But that's not what is being proposed here.

Bernie and the rest of the Bolshevik/Jacobin mob want prisoners voting, while still in prison.

 

[Swordsmyth]

My point being that if they truly have displayed and been convicted of these "serious criminal tendencies", to the point they cannot be trusted at a voting booth, why do we trust them living among our loved ones?

If they're so bad they can't vote or possess firearms, why are they not in a cage or dead?

I see the possibility that they can be trusted with firearms and all of their other rights but not the power of government, government is not only more powerful than owning your own guns but it also confers a seductive element of legitimacy to whatever crimes you direct it to commit on your behalf.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Florida lawmakers on Friday approved a measure barring people with felony convictions from registering to vote unless they first pay fines, court fees and restitution that can amount to thousands of dollars.

The state's House of Representatives approved the bill 67-42 on Friday, a day after it passed the Senate, and it now goes to Governor Ron DeSantis's desk.
"We do believe in restoration, we do believe in second chances. We also believe in debts being paid," said Representative James Grant, the sponsor of the measure in the Florida House.
"I think the product that you're seeing has been an effort to reconcile those two things and make sure that when somebody has paid their debt to society they are able to return to vote," Grant told the local WCTV channel.

After hours of debate, lawmakers reached an agreement under which judges will be able to waive the payments, or allow ex-convicts to pay their debts through community service.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lawmakers-approve-bill-erecting-barrier-ex-felons-002319851.html

 

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[TheTexan]

As opposed to people who haven't been convicted stealing from you? Guess what? We're all felons whether we know or not or whether or not we've been caught. Are you sure you've never committed a felony? I'm pretty sure I have.

The only two people I can say for sure have never committed a felony are myself, and Trump.

We're both squeaky clean as a whistle

 

[oyarde]

The only two people I can say for sure have never committed a felony are myself, and Trump.

We're both squeaky clean as a whistle

I know a lot of people who have never been caught .

 

[heavenlyboy34]

The only two people I can say for sure have never committed a felony are myself, and Trump.

We're both squeaky clean as a whistle

Well, you know me and I've also never committed a felony. There's 3.