Just vote for Clinton or McCain and spare us your stupid rationalization for why you wouldn't vote for Dr. Paul. You want bedside manner? That's exactly what you've received from every main-stream-media politician! If you want the truth, you need to stick to Ron Paul.
Ron Paul doesn't care to coddle the masses(your "sick patient"), that's what every other candidate does. He means what he says and he says what he means. You can either accept it or ignore it. But you CAN NOT change it! That is Dr. Paul's true principle!
-- Moneychanger, New Member
"He said true things, but called them by wrong names."
- Robert Browning, Poet
With respect, let us know when you've been elected to Congress 10 times and have been invited to speak to a packed house at one of the biggest companies in the country. Dr. Paul doesn't campaign, he speaks what he sees as truth and hopes he can get people to listen. He never expected to win once and doesn't care if he wins now or not, he's not going to compromise.
Of course it bucks conventional wisdom but this time at least people are responding to it.
--jblosser, Senior Member
“I shall argue that strong men, conversely, know when to compromise and that all principles can be compromised to serve a greater principle.”
- Andrew Carnegie, founder of Pittsburgh's Carnegie Steel Company, sold to JP Morgan, devoting the remainder of his life to philanthropy.
Ease up, hoss!
Where did the man say he wouldn't vote for Dr. Paul?
There's nothing wrong with carefully considering the words one chooses when presenting 'radical' concepts. It seems to me that's all he was saying.
-- Spirit of '76, Senior Member
"Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle."
-Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801
I think what bygone is getting at here, has nothing whatsoever to do with changing Dr. Paul's principles, but instead how to make them more palatable to the general public. I agree with him on a lot of what he said too.
However, Dr. Paul is unlikely to change the way he has always chosen to speak plainly about the issues, just the way he sees them. That is, after all, one of the reasons we admire him so much.
Perhaps though, WE should take to heart what bygone is saying and think about the essence of his message. Maybe this is good advice to WE the supporters as we talk to people about Dr. Paul. There are all kinds of ways to deliver the same message and since our goal is to get them on-board the RP train, we want to deliver it in such a way, that they will listen. Otherwise, we've done nothing more than shot ourselves in the foot.
-- LibertyEagle, Senior Member
"A Spoonful of honey will catch more flies than a gallon of vinegar."
-Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1748
Dr. Paul is demonstrating to us that what people today are finding most palatable is someone speaking an uncompromised message. People are sick of politicians who play these games and "customise" the message to the audience. They are sick of it to the point that they are willing to listen to someone they don't agree with on some major things and support him anyway because they believe he will do what he says. The man sat in California at Google's headquarters and said abortion was murder and we should abolish the IRS and most government welfare programs, for pete's sake.
As much as I want Dr. Paul president, his goal so far has not been to get people on the RP train, it has been to deliver a message of liberty and allow people to respond to it. I am sticking with him on this.
-jblosser, Senior Member
I don't personally believe the people at Google can be compared to the mainstream. I think my meaning by quoting greater men than I should be making my meaning obvious.
-bygone
Do they have the Internet in the south?
--Walt, Senior Member
Some of them sir, do not. Quite a few American voters do not. And the only way you will reach them is by spending your money or getting on MSM, or both. These in fact are probably the most likely to vote against you having never heard you. We obviously have internet in the South...
-bygone
My point was that WE are not Ron Paul. Nor, do most of us share his low-key way of going about describing issues simply. He doesn't scare people off. So, yes, I think we need to be attuned to how we go about discussing issues. You betcha. Most people don't like things crammed down their throat and treated like idiots if they don't agree.
-Liberty Eagle, Senior Member
As far as voting for him, it may never get beyond the primary if something doesn't change.
