Who’s the Libertarian Now?

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Who’s the Libertarian Now?

Who’s the Libertarian Now?
By Justin Raimondo • July 7, 2016

Where are libertarians going? What is clear is where they are not going. The much-touted “libertarian moment,” as a New York Times Magazine article phrased it two years ago, never materialized. The story hailed the presidential aspirations of Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) as the harbinger of a political sea change that would usher in a new era for the GOP and the country. It never happened. What happened instead was Donald Trump.

Throughout his presidential campaign, Senator Paul spent much of his energy backtracking and distancing himself from the strict libertarian positions of his father, former congressman Ron Paul, particularly on foreign policy. Team Rand thought they had only to trim their sails and he would enter the GOP mainstream: instead, the ship capsized and sank.

As the senator caviled and maneuvered in a bid to look respectable, Trump did precisely the opposite: defying the political class, he launched a frontal assault on the GOP establishment—and succeeded in overthrowing it, to the cheers of the Republican grassroots.

Paul reiterated his opposition to the Iraq War, but Trump went several steps beyond that, accusing the neoconservatives who surrounded George W. Bush of lying us into war: “They said there were weapons of mass destruction and they knew there were none,” he said at the South Carolina GOP presidential debate. “They lied.” As the lobbyists and party mandarins booed him, Trump reveled in their catcalls, serenely defiant in the knowledge that he had the country behind him.

On domestic issues, too, Trump’s boldness overshadowed Paul’s caution. While the Kentucky senator introduced legislation that would make it difficult for visitors from countries rife with terrorism to enter the United States, Trump leapfrogged his Republican rivals by saying he would temporarily ban all Muslims from traveling to the United States. In a year in which half-measures and nuances weren’t selling, Trump understood the zeitgeist and went with it, while the rest of the Republican pack fell by the wayside—Paul being one of the earliest casualties.

The senator had started out by being dubbed “the most interesting man in Washington,” but by the end of his presidential campaign he was surely among the least inspiring. His campaign was supposed to have been a less intransigent version of his father’s quixotic yet impressively enthusiastic White House bids in 2008 and 2012, mobilizing the young people drawn to the elder Paul’s angular libertarian message yet tempering its rough edges so as to neutralize neoconservative critics like Bill Kristol. What happened instead was that Paul’s cautious tightrope walk between these two poles wound up pleasing no one. Paul went from a high of 15 percent or so in the early polls down to 2 percent and fading fast. He dropped out after polling less than 5 percent in Iowa—not even a quarter of his father’s vote total four years before.

It looked like the libertarian moment would never arrive. But there was still a glimmer of hope embodied by that leftover remnant of the early days of the libertarian movement: the Libertarian Party.

After all, Trump’s economic program of tariffs and maintaining the basic infrastructure of the welfare state represents a reversal of longstanding GOP orthodoxy. Ever since 1964, when Barry Goldwater ousted the Rockefeller wing of the party, Republicans had limned libertarian rhetoric on economic issues—a trend that continued through the Reagan years and beyond—albeit without putting theory into practice. Trump has negated all of that, appealing to working-class voters with a pledge to preserve entitlements and sweep away the “free trade” agreements so dear to the hearts of libertarian economists. And while Trump is roundly condemned by the political class for his supposedly “isolationist” foreign policy—he questions the utility and cost of NATO, and wants to dump Japan and Korea from our Pacific defense perimeter—the real estate mogul always accompanies this kind of talk with almost comically bellicose rhetoric, declaring that we’re going to “wipe out” ISIS “fast,” denouncing the “bad deal” with Iran, and refusing to rule out the use of nuclear weapons.

With the Trumpification of the GOP all but an accomplished fact, would the Libertarian Party learn the lesson of the Rand Paul campaign—don’t trim your sails, unfurl them!—and nominate a candidate with the clarity and consistency that made Ron Paul into a political phenomenon? With a Clintonian corporatist on the left and a populist nationalist on the right, the Libertarians clearly had an unusual opportunity.

Yet they chose not to take it.
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The answer lies in the storied history of the libertarian movement, which has really been two competing movements ever since the Libertarian Party underwent a debilitating split at its 1983 convention. That conclave showcased a bitter struggle between two factions, which superficially represented the old pragmatist-principled divide, yet the differences really went much deeper.

On one side were those aligned with Edward H. Crane III, then the head of the Cato Institute. Their candidate for the presidential nod was Earl Ravenal, a foreign-policy analyst and academic who served in the Defense Department under presidents Johnson and Carter. This was quite in line with what might be called the Crane faction’s “Fabian” strategy, which was to appeal to the political class in a bid for credibility.

On the other side of the barricades was the “Coalition for a Party of Principle,” which cared not one whit for “credibility” and sought to mount a populist challenge to the political class rather than court it.

The factional warfare started in 1980, when the Libertarian candidate was Ed Clark, a corporate lawyer who had garnered over 5 percent of the general-election vote as the party’s candidate for governor of California in 1978. To the consternation of Murray Rothbard, the LP’s unofficial ideologue-in-chief, the Clark campaign in 1980 refused to advocate abolishing the income tax, instead coming out for a mere reduction, and seemed more interested in generating favorable coverage in the liberal media than in actually building the LP. The internecine battle came to a head when Clark, interviewed by Ted Koppel on national television, described libertarianism as “low-tax liberalism.”
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One has to ask: what exactly is the point of a Libertarian Party that puts two moderate Republicans at the head of its presidential ticket and aims to win over Mary Matalin rather than Joe Sixpack? The LP is enacting, on a smaller scale, the very strategy that turned the bright promise of the Rand Paul campaign into a disaster. Or to go farther back, it’s a replication of Ed Clark’s “low-tax liberalism,” now transformed into pot-friendly conservatism

The media is pushing the Libertarians this year because they think they’ll split the Republican vote and deliver the White House to the Clintons.
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More: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/whos-the-libertarian-now/
 
...The media is pushing the Libertarians this year because they think they’ll split the Republican vote and deliver the White House to the Clintons...

While the media may certainly be contributing to the shenanigans, many who identify as libertarian people are choosing to split the Republican vote and give it to Clinton of their own doing.

Of course, libertarians haven't historically made much difference. Then again, we saw record turnouts during the 2014 Mid-Term. Independent and third party candidates had numbers that we haven't seen in modern history. I think that those folks will likely lean toward Trump. And I think that particular demographic is who the media is aiming toward.

I will say, though, that I've started to distance myself from libertarianism (as in the movement) just because it is so disingenuous at times. There's a lot of deception going on from within the movement. And I don't like people like that.
 
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And the so-called Libertarians are taking the bait. They are doing everything they can to be media darlings, but they are not engaging on the principles of liberty. Some wars, some guns, some big government. What's different?
 
And the so-called Libertarians are taking the bait. They are doing everything they can to be media darlings, but they are not engaging on the principles of liberty. Some wars, some guns, some big government. What's different?

The Johnson crowd kills me. I'd say he's libertarian in name only at best. And people should know that. For folks who understand the fundamental principles of Individual Liberty to jump on the Johnson bandwagon as if it's some commitment to principle is disingenuous. It's logistically just running interference for Clinton. And I'd take Trump over Clinton any day of the week. While they're both certainly authoritarian, one of them is going to be elected.

Now, I can excuse the ones out in the general population. They don't know any better. That's something entirely different. And they'll likely commit to either Johnson or Trump regardless. There is nothing strategic in it for that demographic aside from existing as a consequence of the political paradigm itself.
 
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Interesting thread. I wonder what its purpose is.
 
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Oh, gee. americanconservative.com is trying to get the libertarians to apply their purity tests to Johnson, but not Trump, to be afraid they won't attract disaffected anti-war Democrats despite it being a perfect time to do so, and to dissuade libertarians from choosing the lesser evil even though the choice is Satan, Be'ezelbub or a guy who once sold a used car, and the lesser evil is much, much less evil.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.
 
Interesting thread. I wonder what it's purpose is.

Raimondo has an interesting perspective, especially when it comes to Libertarian history, of which he has first-hand knowledge. He knew Rothbard, and can speak to early Libertarian politics, as he did in this article.

It's pretty clear, the purpose is to demonstrate that Trump is the true libertarian in the race (and, as Brian pointed out to me in his response, Mr. Trump is so libertarian, he could have been the LP candidate if he'd wanted to be.)

Your sarcasm aside, the article speaks to the Libertarian Party dilemma of mainstream acceptability vs strict dogma. Gary Johnson and Bob Barr represent the acceptability (Cato/Crane/Clark) faction.

If Trump had run as a Libertarian, the allure of billionaire campaign wealth and reality TV fame would have been enough to put him in front of Gary Johnson.
 
Raimondo has an interesting perspective, especially when it comes to Libertarian history, of which he has first-hand knowledge. He knew Rothbard, and can speak to early Libertarian politics, as he did in this article.



Your sarcasm aside, the article speaks to the Libertarian Party dilemma of mainstream acceptability vs strict dogma. Gary Johnson and Bob Barr represent the acceptability (Cato/Crane/Clark) faction.

If Trump had run as a Libertarian, the allure of billionaire campaign wealth and reality TV fame would have been enough to put him in front of Gary Johnson.

Absolutely
 
Raimondo has an interesting perspective, especially when it comes to Libertarian history...

...which is chock full of examples of Raimondo screwing us over.

Or talking us into screwing ourselves over, as the case may be.
 
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