Who was the Greatest Founding Father?

[Galileo Galilei]

I voted for Jefferson and Henry for a number of reasons, but I wonder if Jefferson's ideas on planned society has any impact on how forum goers view him?

I'm not aware of any at the federal level.

He did site on his tombstone, as one of his three greatest achievements, the creation of the University of Virginia.

 

[Truth Warrior]

I'm not aware of any at the federal level.

He did site on his tombstone, as one of his three greatest achievements, the creation of the University of Virginia.

Left off POTUS didn't he?

 

[Pennsylvania]

How did so many people vote for a man who wanted to castrate homosexuals? Come on guys, I thought we just had this discussion.

 

[Truth Warrior]

How did so many people vote for a man who wanted to castrate homosexuals? Come on guys, I thought we just had this discussion.

Source?

 

[Pennsylvania]

Source?

The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Andrew A. Lipscomb, ed. (Washington, Thomas Jefferson Memorial Association, 1904) Vol. I, pp.226-27, from Jefferson's "For Proportioning Crimes and Punishments."

I stand slightly corrected. It was all sodomites, rather than only homosexuals:

Sodomy(2) with man or woman, shall be punished, if a man, by

castration,(3) if a woman, by cutting through the cartilage of her nose a hole

of one half inch in diameter at the least.

 

[Truth Warrior]

The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Andrew A. Lipscomb, ed. (Washington, Thomas Jefferson Memorial Association, 1904) Vol. I, pp.226-27, from Jefferson's "For Proportioning Crimes and Punishments."

I stand slightly corrected. It was all sodomites, rather that only homosexuals:

Well he owned some slaves too. An institution from the Brits.

Thanks!

 

[Galileo Galilei]

The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Andrew A. Lipscomb, ed. (Washington, Thomas Jefferson Memorial Association, 1904) Vol. I, pp.226-27, from Jefferson's "For Proportioning Crimes and Punishments."

I stand slightly corrected. It was all sodomites, rather that only homosexuals:

I find this hard to believe. I'd like to see the context, or if this were already in some legal code prior to Jefferson. These penalties may actually have been reduced penalties from prior codes, which might have been death.

 

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

nt

 

[Kludge]

Can I claim Protestant trailblazers as Founders?

I'm fond of George Fox....

 

[ItsTime]

Without one of them, this all may have never happened. The mix of people coming together is what brought us here. Much like the CFL bringing greens and libertarians together for a common goal.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Well he owned some slaves too. An institution from the Brits.

Thanks!

Last I checked, he inherited those slaves-and released them ASAP.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Last I checked, he inherited those slaves-and released them ASAP.

Check again. It was AFTER his death, as I seem to recall.

 

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

nt

 

[Truth Warrior]

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[heavenlyboy34]

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lolz.... silly kid.

 

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

nt

 

[Truth Warrior]

You two crack me up.

We crack us up too.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

We crack us up too.

+a zillion! RPF is very blessed to have TW and I grace it with our presence and brilliant humor/commentary.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Check again. It was AFTER his death, as I seem to recall.

I guess we're both right (you more so than I this time).

http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/index.php/Slaves_Who_Gained_Freedom

Jefferson had a number of slaves who gained their freedom[1] by various methods. He freed two slaves in his lifetime and five in his will. Three others ran away and were not pursued. (Still others successfully ran away despite pursuit.)
All ten freed with Jefferson's consent were members of the Hemings family; the seven he officially freed were all skilled tradesmen. About 200 slaves were sold at estate sales after Jefferson's death.

 

[Truth Warrior]

I guess we're both right (you more so than I this time).

http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/index.php/Slaves_Who_Gained_Freedom

Jefferson had a number of slaves who gained their freedom[1] by various methods. He freed two slaves in his lifetime and five in his will. Three others ran away and were not pursued. (Still others successfully ran away despite pursuit.)
All ten freed with Jefferson's consent were members of the Hemings family; the seven he officially freed were all skilled tradesmen. About 200 slaves were sold at estate sales after Jefferson's death.

That works.

Thanks!