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1. Are you currently getting or have ever gotten Sabrin emails?
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2. Did you sign up to Ron Paul Forums with the email you are getting the spam on?
Yes
3. Did you sign up to the official Ron Paul campaign site with the email you are getting the spam on?
Yes
4. Did you sign up to November 5 Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on?
Yes
5. Did you sign up to TeaParty Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on?
Yes
6. Did you sign up to FreeAtLast Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on?
No
7. Did you sign up to February 2nd Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on?
No
8. Did you sign up to any other campaign-related sites with the email you are getting the spam on?
No
9. What are those sites?
x
Extra Credit: A question to the people Not receiving SabrinSpam, have you donated to the Paul campaign?
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2. Did you sign up to Ron Paul Forums with the email you are getting the spam on?
Yes
3. Did you sign up to the official Ron Paul campaign site with the email you are getting the spam on?
Yes
4. Did you sign up to November 5 Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on?
Yes
5. Did you sign up to TeaParty Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on?
Yes
6. Did you sign up to FreeAtLast Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on?
No
7. Did you sign up to February 2nd Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on?
No
8. Did you sign up to any other campaign-related sites with the email you are getting the spam on?
No
9. What are those sites?
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Extra Credit: A question to the people Not receiving SabrinSpam, have you donated to the Paul campaign?
Yes
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Penners posted the article giving information. No more speculation
Penners posted the article giving information. No more speculation
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Ron Paul Sharing The Political Wealth With Like-Minded Candidates By Jonathan Allen, CQ Staff
Wed Feb 27, 6:27 PM ET
Ron Paul is starting to give like-minded candidates a taste of the political gold he discovered on the Internet by lending his endorsement and renting out his donor list.
A previously little-known Texas congressman with a libertarian bent, Paul had raised $32 million for his quixotic bid for the Republican presidential nomination through the end of January, a figure that dwarfed the totals of several Democratic and Republican candidates who began the race with much higher profiles.
He created an online sensation with his platform of limited government, expansive individual liberties and withdrawal from Iraq and international organizations. More than $6 million came into his coffers on a single day in December through a "moneybomb" Internet fundraising effort.
That haul of cash has not translated into victory in primaries or caucuses, but it has built a political base for Paul -- and, perhaps more important, a donor list -- that would be the envy of any incumbent or challenger. (Paul, by the way, faces a primary challenger of his own in Texas on Tuesday).
Murray Sabrin, a New Jersey Senate candidate who has been endorsed by Paul, is expecting a "moneybomb" from his own backers and Paul's this Friday. Sabrin has raised $194,260 since launching his campaign last month, according to a calculator on his Web site.
"We're working hard to cultivate his previous donors and Murray's previous donors and donors across the country," said Sabrin consultant Adam Alonso.
Republican Rep. Walter B. Jones, a fellow Iraq war critic who faces a tough primary challenge in North Carolina coastal 3rd District, has rented access to Paul's list of donors in the state.
But Paul's imprimatur was not limited to the list itself: He sent out an e-mail soliciting help for Jones last week.
Jones said he already has raised about $5,000 from Paul supporters, which is not an insubstantial figure in a relatively inexpensive market. Jones had raised $192,185 through the end of December, and his rival for the GOP nomination, Joe McLaughlin, had collected $78,278.
Paul says lending a hand to his friends is old hat but acknowledges it's a bigger hat these days.
"I've been helping people for a long time. Nothing new about it," he said during a brief interview in the Capitol on Tuesday. "The degree might be different but the principle's the same."
Paul's presidential spokesman said the campaign is still in the process of figuring out how best to make full use of its massive list of campaign donors.
"A likely use would be to help candidates for office who are running on a constitutionalist platform," Jesse Benton said. "It will go to a good use."
Though Paul is winding down his presidential bid as he focuses on winning re-election A-A--- he also has rented his donor list to his own congressional campaign -- he wants to have an impact on the direction of his party.
One way to do that is to aid the campaigns of colleagues and congressional challengers who share his outlook on politics.
"We put together a movement and that movement is going to continue," Benton said.
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Ron Paul Sharing The Political Wealth With Like-Minded Candidates By Jonathan Allen, CQ Staff
Wed Feb 27, 6:27 PM ET
Ron Paul is starting to give like-minded candidates a taste of the political gold he discovered on the Internet by lending his endorsement and renting out his donor list.
A previously little-known Texas congressman with a libertarian bent, Paul had raised $32 million for his quixotic bid for the Republican presidential nomination through the end of January, a figure that dwarfed the totals of several Democratic and Republican candidates who began the race with much higher profiles.
He created an online sensation with his platform of limited government, expansive individual liberties and withdrawal from Iraq and international organizations. More than $6 million came into his coffers on a single day in December through a "moneybomb" Internet fundraising effort.
That haul of cash has not translated into victory in primaries or caucuses, but it has built a political base for Paul -- and, perhaps more important, a donor list -- that would be the envy of any incumbent or challenger. (Paul, by the way, faces a primary challenger of his own in Texas on Tuesday).
Murray Sabrin, a New Jersey Senate candidate who has been endorsed by Paul, is expecting a "moneybomb" from his own backers and Paul's this Friday. Sabrin has raised $194,260 since launching his campaign last month, according to a calculator on his Web site.
"We're working hard to cultivate his previous donors and Murray's previous donors and donors across the country," said Sabrin consultant Adam Alonso.
Republican Rep. Walter B. Jones, a fellow Iraq war critic who faces a tough primary challenge in North Carolina coastal 3rd District, has rented access to Paul's list of donors in the state.
But Paul's imprimatur was not limited to the list itself: He sent out an e-mail soliciting help for Jones last week.
Jones said he already has raised about $5,000 from Paul supporters, which is not an insubstantial figure in a relatively inexpensive market. Jones had raised $192,185 through the end of December, and his rival for the GOP nomination, Joe McLaughlin, had collected $78,278.
Paul says lending a hand to his friends is old hat but acknowledges it's a bigger hat these days.
"I've been helping people for a long time. Nothing new about it," he said during a brief interview in the Capitol on Tuesday. "The degree might be different but the principle's the same."
Paul's presidential spokesman said the campaign is still in the process of figuring out how best to make full use of its massive list of campaign donors.
"A likely use would be to help candidates for office who are running on a constitutionalist platform," Jesse Benton said. "It will go to a good use."
Though Paul is winding down his presidential bid as he focuses on winning re-election A-A--- he also has rented his donor list to his own congressional campaign -- he wants to have an impact on the direction of his party.
One way to do that is to aid the campaigns of colleagues and congressional challengers who share his outlook on politics.
"We put together a movement and that movement is going to continue," Benton said.
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Ron Paul has stated he will do whatever he can to help endorsed candidates.
So his campaign may be allowing access to their donor list.
So his campaign may be allowing access to their donor list.
Pretty sure I read a news article today that said something about Ron Paul giving mailing lists and things to candidates he endorses.
I think this is fair and good for our cause, because it will help us learn about other people to support like Murray Sabrin, Jim Forsythe, and several others who are great candidates whose names escape me. No offense, just bad with names...but I can picture all of you!
I think this is fair and good for our cause, because it will help us learn about other people to support like Murray Sabrin, Jim Forsythe, and several others who are great candidates whose names escape me. No offense, just bad with names...but I can picture all of you!
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1. Are you currently getting or have ever gotten Sabrin emails? Yes
2. Did you sign up to Ron Paul Forums with the email you are getting the spam on? Yes
3. Did you sign up to the official Ron Paul campaign site with the email you are getting the spam on? Yes
4. Did you sign up to November 5 Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on? Yes
5. Did you sign up to TeaParty Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on? Yes
6. Did you sign up to FreeAtLast Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on? Yes
7. Did you sign up to February 2nd Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on? Yes
8. Did you sign up to any other campaign-related sites with the email you are getting the spam on? Ron Paul for Congress
9. What are those sites?
JSGolfMan's Question: "Are you a member of any meetups or have you recently joined the republican party? You may have been signed up through that method."
Yes GOP and meetups.
2. Did you sign up to Ron Paul Forums with the email you are getting the spam on? Yes
3. Did you sign up to the official Ron Paul campaign site with the email you are getting the spam on? Yes
4. Did you sign up to November 5 Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on? Yes
5. Did you sign up to TeaParty Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on? Yes
6. Did you sign up to FreeAtLast Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on? Yes
7. Did you sign up to February 2nd Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on? Yes
8. Did you sign up to any other campaign-related sites with the email you are getting the spam on? Ron Paul for Congress
9. What are those sites?
JSGolfMan's Question: "Are you a member of any meetups or have you recently joined the republican party? You may have been signed up through that method."
Yes GOP and meetups.
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I'm not getting Sabrin emails and I've signed up for every money bomb, and with the campaign as a volunteer and precinct leader.
LibertyEagle
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I'm not getting them either.
no Sabrin emails here
i have signed up with the campaign, donated to the campaign, joined meetup, joined GOP lists, and subscribed on Nov 5th, Nov 11th, and Tea Party.
oh... and i'm also signed up for campaign updates from both Huckabee and McCain.
i have signed up with the campaign, donated to the campaign, joined meetup, joined GOP lists, and subscribed on Nov 5th, Nov 11th, and Tea Party.
oh... and i'm also signed up for campaign updates from both Huckabee and McCain.
I've been getting an insanely annoying amount. Both from the Sabrin campaign and random people who think I care what they think.
Since I've only used that email vis-a-vis Ron Paul for this forum, precinct captain, and donating, I'm positive it's people using the precinct captain contacts. Considering you can see the emails of the other captains around you, and the coordinators can see a large amount, I'll bet anything people are giving those emails to Sabrin to use, and using them themselves to yack about Ron Paul as if we all care what they think is important to be doing at any given moment.
In other words, it's not "official" or we'd all get the same thing, like the RP messages.
Since I've only used that email vis-a-vis Ron Paul for this forum, precinct captain, and donating, I'm positive it's people using the precinct captain contacts. Considering you can see the emails of the other captains around you, and the coordinators can see a large amount, I'll bet anything people are giving those emails to Sabrin to use, and using them themselves to yack about Ron Paul as if we all care what they think is important to be doing at any given moment.
In other words, it's not "official" or we'd all get the same thing, like the RP messages.
1. Are you currently getting or have ever gotten Sabrin emails? Yes
2. Did you sign up to Ron Paul Forums with the email you are getting the spam on? No
3. Did you sign up to the official Ron Paul campaign site with the email you are getting the spam on? Yes (grassroots)
4. Did you sign up to November 5 Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on? No
5. Did you sign up to TeaParty Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on? No
6. Did you sign up to FreeAtLast Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on? No
7. Did you sign up to February 2nd Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on? No
8. Did you sign up to any other campaign-related sites with the email you are getting the spam on? No
9. What are those sites? n/a
I bitched out the guy who sent the Sabrin email because he listed all recipients in the "To:" field so everyone had access to the other 90 email addresses.
2. Did you sign up to Ron Paul Forums with the email you are getting the spam on? No
3. Did you sign up to the official Ron Paul campaign site with the email you are getting the spam on? Yes (grassroots)
4. Did you sign up to November 5 Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on? No
5. Did you sign up to TeaParty Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on? No
6. Did you sign up to FreeAtLast Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on? No
7. Did you sign up to February 2nd Moneybomb with the email you are getting the spam on? No
8. Did you sign up to any other campaign-related sites with the email you are getting the spam on? No
9. What are those sites? n/a
I bitched out the guy who sent the Sabrin email because he listed all recipients in the "To:" field so everyone had access to the other 90 email addresses.
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when will anyone learn to ALWAYS setup a new email address for various things that might have a spam problem.
If seeing a "you've got mail" in your email box that unnerving for some people then I suggest you get off the net lol, you will be getting this "junk mail" online just like we have been getting for YEARS offline in our snail mail boxes.
It happens and will continue happening. I did read that thing with ron paul renting it out to ron paul candidates as far as the donor list goes and it going to a good cause BUT is that really in the donation tos???? If not then ron paul would be doing something VERY illegal I would assume.
Does it say "we have the right to lease, lend or sell all information submitted"????? if not then I think we need to make sure ron paul is actually the one renting the "donor list" itself or if that info is coming from outside sources.
If seeing a "you've got mail" in your email box that unnerving for some people then I suggest you get off the net lol, you will be getting this "junk mail" online just like we have been getting for YEARS offline in our snail mail boxes.
It happens and will continue happening. I did read that thing with ron paul renting it out to ron paul candidates as far as the donor list goes and it going to a good cause BUT is that really in the donation tos???? If not then ron paul would be doing something VERY illegal I would assume.
Does it say "we have the right to lease, lend or sell all information submitted"????? if not then I think we need to make sure ron paul is actually the one renting the "donor list" itself or if that info is coming from outside sources.
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1. Are you currently getting or have ever gotten Sabrin emails?
no
2. Did you sign up to Ron Paul Forums?
yes
3. Did you sign up to the official Ron Paul campaign site?
not with that email
4. Did you sign up to November 5 Moneybomb?
no
5. Did you sign up to TeaParty Moneybomb?
not with that email
6. Did you sign up to FreeAtLast Moneybomb?
no
7. Did you sign up to February 2nd Moneybomb?
not with that email
8. Did you sign up to any other campaign-related sites?
yes
9. What are those sites?
Liberty Island
Book Bomb
Letter to Ron Paul
10. Have you gotten any other unsolicited email?
Yes, conservativehq.com
no
2. Did you sign up to Ron Paul Forums?
yes
3. Did you sign up to the official Ron Paul campaign site?
not with that email
4. Did you sign up to November 5 Moneybomb?
no
5. Did you sign up to TeaParty Moneybomb?
not with that email
6. Did you sign up to FreeAtLast Moneybomb?
no
7. Did you sign up to February 2nd Moneybomb?
not with that email
8. Did you sign up to any other campaign-related sites?
yes
9. What are those sites?
Liberty Island
Book Bomb
Letter to Ron Paul
10. Have you gotten any other unsolicited email?
Yes, conservativehq.com
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