Who plans on joining the Free State Project in New Hampshire this year?

[cucucachu0000]

that was fast thanks alot ill definitely check that stuff out

 

[dbill27]

New Hampshire, wedged between the two most left wing states in the country. Only a matter of time before the liberals start migrating to nh when mass and vermont tax them to much, they'll quickly vote to make anything the FSP has done irrelevant.

 

[KMX]

Your wrong about that. FSP already has over 30 people in office. With many many more on the way. Plus the 1,000s of activist.

In NH the elected officals really don't even get paid. Everyone is a full time job working citizen. They sign "the pledge" before getting elected. No income or sales tax ever.

NH get's most of it's money from people who travel and enjoy the tax free state.

 

[Keith and stuff]

In NH the elected officals really don't even get paid. Everyone is a full time job working citizen. They sign "the pledge" before getting elected. No income or sales tax ever.

Here are the results of the 9/11 New Hampshire Democratic Primary.

New Hampshire - 291 of 301 Precincts Reporting - 97%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Hassan , Maggie Dem 44,600 54%
Cilley , Jackie Dem 32,252 39%
Kennedy , Bill Dem 5,789 7%

None of those candidates are liberty candidates. However, the most sane candidate won. You know, the candidate that is against a new broad based tax. That makes sense. In NH, Democrats are opposed to income and sales taxes. Taxes are bad. It is the NH way. It has always been the NH way. It will always be the NH way. If someone likes taxes, they aren't likely to move to NH. If someone likes taxes and is from NH, there is a good chance they will move away from NH and go to NY, FL or MA.

Hassan campaigned that we need to NOT create a new broad based tax (personal income tax, general sales tax, state property tax), for medical marijuana, for major school reform which allows property taxes to be reduced...
Cilley campaigned that it was crazy that everyone takes The Pledge against a new broad based tax. The said we need to have a conversation. She also campaign for medical marijuana and against free staters.
Kennedy campaign that we need a 4% income tax to reduce property taxes, for medical marijuana, and for right-to-work.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Glad to see silly Cilly lost.

Ovide for Gov.

 

[KMX]

Thanks for that Keith.

 

[Keith and stuff]

New Hampshire, wedged between the two most left wing states in the country. Only a matter of time before the liberals start migrating to nh when mass and vermont tax them to much, they'll quickly vote to make anything the FSP has done irrelevant.

I don't understand what you mean because you used the words left wing and liberal. If by liberal, you mean socially free, that is pretty accurate.

Personal Freedom Ranking
http://mercatus.org/sites/all/modules/custom/mercatus_50_states/files/Freedom50States2011.pdf
1. OR 0.250
2. VT 0.205
3. NV
4. IN
5. AK
6. MO
7. ME 0.091
8. CO
9. ID
10. NM
11. NH 0.084

Sure, the infomation could be off a little, but look at it.
NH is bordered by VT on 1 side and ME on the other side. Together, the 3 states make up the region in the US with the most personal freedom, Northern New England.

On the other hand, if by left wing you meant statist, NY and NJ are the 2 statist states according to the ranking. Maybe the ranking is a littlle off and CA is the most statist state. http://mercatus.org/freedom-50-states-2011

As for taxes, they are pretty high in VT, ME and to some extent, MA. However, since taxes are so low in NH, politicians in near-by states mention NH as a reason for not increasing taxes in their states. Even the Democratic governor of VT recently said that. The Republican governor of ME is trying to change ME to be more like NH (to be freer).

NH has been the freest part of New England for 100s of years. People have been moving to NH for more freedom that whole time. It hasn't been overrun with statists compared to any other state yet. In fact, NH is the freest state.

Look at the recent election results. Nashua is the 2nd largest city in NH. It is in the NH/MA border (45 minutes from Boston) and leans Democratic. Here are the election results.
Governor (D) Nashua ~ Totals
Jackie Cilley 911
Maggie Hassan 2,596
Bill Kennedy 303
Maggie signed The Pledge to veto any new broad based taxes. Jackie called for a conversation on the issue. Bill called for creating a 4% person income tax to reduce property taxes.

Who won? Maggie won huge in Nashua, a Democrat leaning city, in the Democrat race. Democrats are only 30% or so of voters in NH but the ones that tend to move to NH from MA don't even like taxes. Bill only got 303 votes in the city of 86,000 people.

What about the 70% of voters in NH? How do you think they feel?

 

[KMX]

Hell yeah!

Live Free or DIE!!!

Better start packing ;0)

 

[KMX]

So anyone thought about it?

 

[KMX]

that was fast thanks alot ill definitely check that stuff out

Please do!

 

[KMX]

Bump for a great idea.

;0)

 

[IDefendThePlatform]

I see KMX has facebook covered in his sig, so here's the FSP twitter feed. I find it full of interesting stuff.

https://twitter.com/FreeStateNH

I'm not planning on moving, but I think it would be awesome to see NH lead the way and hopefully, eventually, maybe, secede so we can see real freedom in action.

 

[Vessol]

I'll be moving to New Hampshire in 1-2 years after I finish my accounting degree.

 

[ross11988]

Im been mauling on moving to NH, but I can't find a good area to move to. As stated in the 2nd post the southern part of the state is infested with Neo-Cons. Where would a Ron Paul activist feel at home?

 

[Keith and stuff]

Im been mauling on moving to NH, but I can't find a good area to move to. As stated in the 2nd post the southern part of the state is infested with Neo-Cons. Where would a Ron Paul activist feel at home?

Personally, I don't think there are a great deal of Neo-Cons in NH compared to pretty much every other Republican leaning state in the US. However, I'll answer your question, anyway

This is a highly populated Republican town (by NH standards, 17,000+ people) in southern NH. It borders Manchester, the largest city.

New Hampshire Primary Success: The Goffstown 6
http://nhfreedom.wordpress.com/2012/09/18/new-hampshire-primary-success-the-goffstown-6/

Below is the whole post minus the image and the 4 links. If you want to see the image or see the data, you will need to click on the link above this sentence.

9 Republicans ran for the Republican nomination to the New Hampshire House in Goffstown on September 11th. 6 of the Republican candidates were pro-liberty candidates. 6 of the candidates were labeled pro-liberty by New Hampshire Freedom. Heck, even the controversial Speak of the New Hampshire House endorsed the 6 candidates.

The Republican Liberty Caucus of New Hampshire endorsed 4 of the candidates. The New Hampshire Liberty Alliance endorsed 5 of the candidates. However, New Hampshire Freedom knew the inside story. The blog labeled all 6 candidates pro-liberty. Oddly enough, the New Hampshire Speaker of the House went so far as to personally endorse the 6 candidates while he was a guest on Girard at Large, a Goffstown radio show. This may have been the only endorsement Speaker O’Brien made in New Hampshire House races outside of his own district.

All 6 candidates won in the primary. If you look at the vote totals, the more pro-liberty a candidates was, the more votes a candidate received. There is a good chance all 6 pro-liberty candidates win in the November 6th general election as Goffstown is a Republican leaning town. If that happens, Goffstown, New Hampshire will have more pro-liberty legislators than many states in America. This is a New Hampshire Primary success story.

As for the 3 Republican who lost in the primary, I’m sorry for your lose. Please educate yourself on the principles of freedom and prosperity for all. Even the famous local liberal Henry David Thoreau said “that government is best which governs least.”

The Goffstown 6: 2011/2012 NHLA rating/ votes received on the September 11th Primary
Mark Warden A+ 2182
John Burt A 1085
Calvin Pratt A 817
John Adam Hikel A- 770
Richard Meaney wasn’t in the NH House 927
Ivan Beliveau wasn’t in the NH House 926

The incumbent that lost: 2011/2012 NHLA rating/ votes received on the September 11th Primary
Russell Day C 701

 

[Anti Federalist]

Im been mauling on moving to NH, but I can't find a good area to move to. As stated in the 2nd post the southern part of the state is infested with Neo-Cons. Where would a Ron Paul activist feel at home?

Carroll Co.

 

[matt0611]

What are some good places in NH to be if you want to

(in order of priority)

1. Stay close to Mass (for frequent visits to visit family and friends within the I-495 belt)
2. Not too populated (like suburban or rural area like)
3. Low property taxes

?

 

[Keith and stuff]

What are some good places in NH to be if you want to

(in order of priority)

1. Stay close to Mass (for frequent visits to visit family and friends within the I-495 belt)
2. Not too populated (like suburban or rural area like)
3. Low property taxes
?

It depends. Are you over 55? Do you mind living in a mobile home? Do you mind living in a trailer park? Are you willing to buy over 11 acres and put 10 of the acres in current use? Also, are you talking about low rate rates or average property tax bills? Often times, the lower rates are in the towns where people tend to have a lot of money and have large, expensive houses.

If you consider only the 3 issues you mentioned, Seabrook is best as it is on the NH/MA border, 1 mile from 95 near 495 has a low population and the lowest average household property taxes of any of the towns in NH near the MA border.

However, if you are willing to live in an over 55 trailer park, for example, property taxes aren't related because your home will be worth so little, it doesn't matter what the property taxes are. Or, if you put 10+ arces of land in current use, the property taxes on that land is almost nothing. Though, you would still need to pay regular property tax rates on your house and the land right next to it.

A couple of years ago, I heard of Concords going for around $40k in Concord. I know a person who lives in a rural section of Concord in a converted manufactured home and I think his property is under $70k.

 

[Jingles]

I'm going to finish getting my degree in Economics first. Then maybe I will join or I might just end up back in where I live in PA.

 

[Keith and stuff]

What are some good places in NH to be if you want to

(in order of priority)

1. Stay close to Mass (for frequent visits to visit family and friends within the I-495 belt)
2. Not too populated (like suburban or rural area like)
3. Low property taxes

?

Jason Sorens, the founder of the Free State Project just released this excel file. It, used with a map, a real estate agent and perhaps another file could help you greatly with your plans. Some of the information is confusing and everything isn't always as meets the eye. Some of the data isn't completely accurate. Some of the data is a little old. That said, this spreadsheet rocks compared to everything else I've seen.

M is the median property taxes
Due to redistricting, AQ is going to change quite a bit in some of the towns
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=20886.msg279674#msg279674

Here is the other file I recommend. The document shows average property tax rates. If you don't live near a lake, don't live near a river, don't live in a gated community, don't live on the ocean or live in a condo or mobile home, the value of the property tends to be less. That means you will likely pay on the low side of property tax, by NH standards.
http://www.jacksonteamre.com/tax_rates.htm

If anyone has any questions about these documents or my post, please ask them. Sometimes, sometimes I'm confusing. I'll gladly clarify anything if asked.