Who in This Forum is Afraid of the Al-Qaeda Boogiemen Killing Us Here?
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I'm more frightened of our government than Al Qaeda...sometimes i think the gov't is actually using the 'terrorist boogieman' threat as a tactic to quell any future domestic public uprisings.
Didn't McCain state at CPAC that he would not allow any 'political revolution' to occur?? Although he states that he himself was "a foot-soldier in the Reagan Revolution"; classic political hipocrisy
Didn't McCain state at CPAC that he would not allow any 'political revolution' to occur?? Although he states that he himself was "a foot-soldier in the Reagan Revolution"; classic political hipocrisy
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AQ as an enemy of the American people is a fabrication. Their enemy is the US government because our government violated their liberties over there and they want the US government to stop. Our enemy is the US government because they are violating our liberties and we want them to stop too. Now, the enemy of our enemy doesn't mean that they are our ally. Forgetting for a moment that I believe it would have been damn near impossible for AQ to pull off 9/11, if they were to attack a civilian target within the US it would most likely be out of desperation to get the attention of the American people, since our media obviously isn't going to tell us that crimes that our government commits over there. My point is that we the people don't have much of a reason to fear Al Qaeda, and we even share a common foe. They are essentially fighting for their liberties over there, but the tyranny commited against them is greater than what we experience here. So.. in conclusion, our government sucks, I'm not scared of Al Qaeda.
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You should be more afraid of your government. Phony Osama videos put out to scare the sheeple are documented facts. Osama told us about the government within our government that really controls America. I didn't believe him then, but I do now.
Guys don't you get it?! If we don't fight them over there, we'll be fighting them here! Islamic extremists are the greatest threat our country has ever faced! We can't let these terrorist bastards trumpet a victory...no matter what! Not even if the dollar crashes, or the economy tanks. I don't care if we sell our souls to red china...whatever it takes to win! You guys must be a bunch of liberals...
But seriously...this is the level of ignorance were up against. This is what most of my "conservative" family believes. It's sad that they are so afraid of terrorists, but are completely blind to the fact that they are actively being terrorized. The same people who think their saving their country are allowing it's defeat.
But seriously...this is the level of ignorance were up against. This is what most of my "conservative" family believes. It's sad that they are so afraid of terrorists, but are completely blind to the fact that they are actively being terrorized. The same people who think their saving their country are allowing it's defeat.
the people cannot win. if nothing happens in the future, the government will say the security measures have protected us so we need them but we need more measures because the terrorists are getting smarter. if something does happen in the future, the government will put more security measures in place. in the end, we lose. the scary thing is most of america supports security over liberty.
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Anyone who doesn't fear radical Islam is in for a shock. Currently they are slaughtering people by the thousands and are committing genocide in Africa by the millions. The Sudan is a tragic example of the sleeping giant that for centuries converted by the sword.
Does that mean that they are the biggest problem? Nope, we are, and I fear our abuses in this country far more than any group outside of the U.S. Also, to think they are just targeting us for foreign involvement is slightly misleading. They have attacked France and Spain as well.
They don't attack us because we are free or prosperous as Paul said, but they will attack us because of our infidel lifestyles and hatred against God. Many a good person has died before our attacks in the Middle East for just being a Christian, for a secular woman not to wear proper head-gear, and the list goes on.
They know they are weak fiscally, so they attack us to drain us fiscally.
Does that mean that they are the biggest problem? Nope, we are, and I fear our abuses in this country far more than any group outside of the U.S. Also, to think they are just targeting us for foreign involvement is slightly misleading. They have attacked France and Spain as well.
They don't attack us because we are free or prosperous as Paul said, but they will attack us because of our infidel lifestyles and hatred against God. Many a good person has died before our attacks in the Middle East for just being a Christian, for a secular woman not to wear proper head-gear, and the list goes on.
They know they are weak fiscally, so they attack us to drain us fiscally.
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Why was this thread moved from Grassroots Central, as it is a valid point of discussion pertaining to Ron Paul's core beliefs? Mods, please move it back as it is a popular subject and should have full forum participation.
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You still don't understand the root of the problem, namely, their ideologies. I disagree with Paul philosophically on the issue, but agree with him monetarily.
They have attacked Spain, they were planning a coup in England using doctors, they were in D.C with an attack. These people are monsters. You just don't want to believe it. You should study their history. They have always been an issue, but they aren't an issue for world-domination, just a severe nuisance that will shake the powers that be.
If you want to know why they don't attack China it's because China subsidizes Iran and formerly Iraq. Also, they wouldn't allow Islamic fundamentalists have any rights in their country at all.
As for my quotes, leave me alone. It's a free country isn't it? Maybe it's you who has the ax to grind. I never said anything pro or con, but quoted Ron Paul. I think it just bothers you a little.
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a coup in england....hahahaha...do you even read what you write....
monsters i tell you monsters...like the ones hiding underneath your bed....boo
study their history?...eh...please enlighten us....do you even know where the technological advancement during the renaissance was made....it was made using the knowledge from the Muslim world....here is a beginning for you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_science
when the whole of Europe was under barbaric rule the Muslims were churning out the latest scientific theories and research.....I bet they don't teach that in your school...what I am getting at is Islam has been demonized by people like you and the crazy ass people who blow themselves....actually the difference between you and them is not much...what makes you similar is that both are ignorant....
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Even if Al-Qaeda brings down a hundred buildings in the U.S. they don't have the power to bring down our nation. They are evil yet they are not our greatest threat.
Some things I fear more than a even nuclear bomb going off in one of our cities.
Cities can be wiped out and a nation can survive but destroy a nations currency and you destroy a nation.
Some things I fear more than a even nuclear bomb going off in one of our cities.
Cities can be wiped out and a nation can survive but destroy a nations currency and you destroy a nation.
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I meant it in a minor catastrophic way, not as in a takeover.
And what does that have to do with their ideological and historical background as aggressors for 1300 years? Oh, that's right... nothing... but thanks for trying to look smart.
Europe was never under barbaric rule, I don't know what school of thought you got that from. Barbarians were part of the Dark Ages, before there were Muslims in large communities. Secondly, aside from Muslim contributions in philosophy and science, the Muslim community never embraced such advancements. Look at the writings of Averroes and Avicenna and see how well embraced they were (I'm actually well versed in their writings which are quite excellent). I know my history extremely well, but you cannot take some advancements and claim that Islam embraced them as a whole. There were periods of advancement, but it never went anywhere: no universities, no hospitals, or large humanitarian efforts.
Yah, you are so right. I must have forgotten how they converted North Africa with swords and beheading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_conquest_of_North_Africa
and I must have missed that part where it was law to convert or die, or their conquest of the Holy Land that was so vicious that blood was flowing in the streets, or their aggression on Spain through Jewish money that surprized and murdered thousands, and let's not forget their quest to destroy the Byzantium empire and take over Hagia Sophia, or their role in northern Asian nations either... I mean why do we need history to remind us what monsters they are?
How about now? Ever read about the Congo right now? Or the Sudan? How about the genoside in Kosovo?
Here's some history of actual murder (not science) which is the crux isn't it?
http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/Kosovo/Kosovo-Massacres.htm (several links)
How about Darfur (western Sudan)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darfur_conflict
How about the millions slaughtered in the Congo?
Let me tell you something, I know the stories of these people, many of them write newsletters as they live day to day not knowing when they are going to die. A Catholic bishop who was writing say he flees day to day in the jungle knowing that any day he is going to die but won't leave his people.
You need to wake up, you are an ignorant citizen who needs to understand that the pacifists of the internet and your age bracket need to learn your history. Modern schooling is avoiding teaching like the black plague, and most youth are completely unaware of how deviant they have been. You claim it was my deficient schooling that led me to understand my views, but I can use historical sources not talked about in most public universities for the obvious liberal and subversive agenda that they have. When the historian Belloc 80 years ago called Islam a "sleeping giant soon to be awoken" I agree with him.
But hey, they gave some technological advancements so who cares!!! Ahhh liberals, I love them.
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9/11 put us in a recession. People were afraid to spend. I know, I owned a business and deal with business owners. If they did do such acts we would be in a depression of epic proportions. Do you realize the effect the magnitude of such an atomic explosion on L.A would do? It would wipe off 1/10th of our economy right out of the gate, not to mention a severe lock-down of the economy, major shake-ups on every major corporation, and kill the tourist industry (that includes airlines, a multi-billion part of our economy). It would make the Great Depression look like the good ol' days of happiness and sunshine.
I honestly wonder how much experience and historical knowledge you guys have. You guys should be fighting a little harder to against such atrocities (and I wonder how this nation is going turn around sometimes).
You have to understand there is a problem, and the best thing we can do is pull back our troops, close the borders, and fight against the enemies.
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...liked this thread at first - great thoughts, but now it's making me want to barf.
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Facts do that to libtards.
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Statistically, we should be more afraid of bee stings, shark bites, and death by allergic reaction to aspirin.
Terrorism is the U.S. is only slightly more hazardous than lighting strikes, and twenty times less dangerous than backyard swimming pools.
Terrorism is the U.S. is only slightly more hazardous than lighting strikes, and twenty times less dangerous than backyard swimming pools.
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