Whites now a minority in London

[AuH20]

I'll simplify it for you.
The third world immigrants don't understand the concept of freedoms, so they are easily bribed by the socialist politicians who give them government benefits. All they see is that they can get a government check from these 'nice' people who tell to vote democrat and hate the 'evil white man' who is the cause of all the worlds ills. They bring their failed cultures with them, which then becomes the norm as their numbers increase. Just look at the countries they come from. Is that what you want in the U.S.?

I wouldn't say their cultures are failed. There are various elements of foreign cultures that I admire. But some are just different and don't necessarily mesh well in the western environment that has developed.

 

[otherone]

Those are folks that understand Freedom.

...or at least cultural/local self-governance.

 

[AuH20]

What an asinine comment. The problem is that first world natives don't understand the concept of freedoms. If they did, they wouldn't be afraid of swarthy-skinned foreigners.

'Swarthy skinned foreigners' aren't necessarily worried about tax rates, the constitutionally defined role of government, gun rights or civil liberties. For good reason, they are more worried where their next meal is coming from. Such predicaments make them low hanging fruit for the professional politicians and multi-tenacled state.

 

[otherone]

'Swarthy skinned foreigners' aren't necessarily worried about tax rates, the constitutionally defined role of government, gun rights or civil liberties. For good reason, they are more worried where their next meal is coming from. Such predicaments make them low hanging fruit for the professional politicians and multi-tenacled state.

As opposed to the low-hanging WHITE CITIZENS who have already been plucked by the authoritarian state. Foreigners ain't the problem. The problem is your gun-totin' neighbors...the ones who voted for Romney...or Obama...citizens....get it? Don't let your xenophobia cloud your senses, man.

 

[Shredmonster]

I don't know if you can get more racist than that.If someone wrote that he wants a "clean" white Europe it would be less racist than what you wrote.

Jesus people are so stupid. This is not about color. Although I see you are one of the brainwashed sheeple. Watch CNN much ?

Does anybody ever take reality into account ? There is a thing called HUMAN NATURE. Ever hear of it ? Humans are not so different than animals in that they fight for dominance. Diversity is total bullshit fed to you to get you to accept other cultures into your own thereby changing your culture - for the benefit of those who want to control you.

Why the hell do you think the Hispanics are a concern to the Republicans ? Are you going to tell me you are in the dark and have not heard the conversation on this ?
Hispanics like big government. They believe government is there to help. They rely on it to come to the US. And you pay for them. And they vote for big government types who in return lessen your freedom.

You have been brainwashed by those who control the media and by extension apparently control the way you think instead of thinking for yourself.

 

[Shredmonster]

Foreigners ain't the problem.

Oh really ? Not even when the don't assimilate, can't speak the language, can't read etc.... Go out and cause accidents and kill people in cars because they can't read and don't understand the laws ... happens all the time don't even try to argue the point.

Talk to France about the Muslim riots.

Gee ever hear of ethnic cleansing ? Groups of people fight all the time all over the world.

If done correctly and managed immigration may serve a purpose. But not the way it is being done now for the reasons it is being done now. Why do you think Kennedy came up with a plan in 1965 to change US immigration policy ? Cause he was so magnanimous ? Cause he is such a caring good guy ? Give me a break.

You are another person ignoring the reality of human nature.

All you goody two shoes trying to make yourselves feel better. Go to a bad neighborhood some time and walk around and tell me you are not concerned for your safety. Gee is that racism ? Friggen phonies.

 

[AuH20]

As opposed to the low-hanging WHITE CITIZENS who have already been plucked by the authoritarian state. Foreigners ain't the problem. The problem is your gun-totin' neighbors...the ones who voted for Romney...or Obama...citizens....get it? Don't let your xenophobia cloud your senses, man.

No one is claiming that domestic citizens are better than the new visitors. But to insist that this country needs more foreigners with a more disparate hierarchy of needs and a profound cultural bias is lunacy. When you have a looming problem, you do not add to the quantity of the problem. Bringing in more dependents and state lovers from around the world to further complement our growing horde of domestic parasites is not wise.

 

[otherone]

disparate hierarchy of needs and a profound cultural bias is lunacy.

Prior to our succulent welfare-state, what was the attraction to America of those with a "profound cultural bias"?

 

[pcosmar]

Oh really ? .

Yes really.
This land would be a lot freer if the Europeans has been kept out.
Europeans are the problem,, the place is infested with them.



Jeeze,, these threads really do highlight those who still do not have a clue.


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[AuH20]

Prior to our succulent welfare-state, what was the attraction to America of those with a "profound cultural bias"?

Opportunity. Property rights. Freedom. A willingness to throw off the shackles of the former. Only the willing and strong survived. There were no multi-cultural "protections" or multi-lingual aids or social safety net. Those who wanted to become Americans did so and thrived because they had no other choice. Remember that trans-Atlantic travel was costly, dangerous and time-consuming. There are no more filters these days. We get demanding blocs instead of the intrepid individual. Herds instead of a valuable citizen striving to improve himself.

Why do you think the "melting pot" term was created??? In the fire, the metals are merged and their impurities are removed, making for a stronger alloy.

 

[otherone]

Opportunity. Property rights. Freedom. A willingness to throw off the shackles of the former. Only the willing and strong survived. There was no multi-cultural "protections" or multi-lingual aids or social safety net. Those who wanted to become Americans did so and thrived because they had no other choice. Remember that Trans-Atlantic travel was costly, dangerous and time-consuming. There are no more filters these days. We get demanding blocs instead of the intrepid individual. Herds instead of a valuable citizen striving to improve himself.

So there is a "profound cultural bias", or not?

 

[Pericles]

Prior to our succulent welfare-state, what was the attraction to America of those with a "profound cultural bias"?

The countries in which they lived sucked, and they knew it. They came here for increased freedom and economic opportunity. Much of that still applies.

It worked fine, until anybody could vote. Organized political machines were created that use the mass of immigrants to vote power to corrupt people who have encouraged even more of the same trend.

It is the philosophical question that each democracy / republic faces - what should be the criteria for having a vote in the direction in which a society takes. What are the qualifications for having a voice in public affairs. An age old problem, and various models have been tried, but one conclusion seems valid - when everyone of a certain age gets to vote, the society implodes after a few generations.

 

[AuH20]

So there is a "profound cultural bias", or not?

A cultural bias did certainly exist but it wasn't the incredible obstacle that it transformed into today. But one that was not so abrasive that it prevented the establishment of a bond with the domestic natives. Today, thanks to the wonders of multicultural zealotry, there is no bond, in terms of common communication or values. Cats and dogs are at each other's throats.

 

[fr33]

I don't think being a westerner gives me some special powers that make me slanted towards freedom. Civilizations rise and fall in cycles. Rival civilizations play a role in each others' destiny when they intervene.

One example would be how the Mongol Empire and how, even though they attacked everyone around them, they focused more on the Persians than the west. This set the middle east back when they were arguably ahead of the west before the Mongols.

 

[otherone]

I don't think being a westerner gives me some special powers that make me slanted towards freedom.

The concept of "individual" freedom is only several hundred years old. Only a small percentage of people understand it. Even people on this forum don't understand it. The vast majority of people, regardless of race and culture don't want it. People will take whatever is given to them, it's human nature. That's why we're in the mess we're in. Pretending that foreigners are more inclined to statism than all the endemic parasites is scapegoating and avoiding the real problem...US.

 

[fr33]

The concept of "individual" freedom is only several hundred years old. Only a small percentage of people understand it. Even people on this forum don't understand it. The vast majority of people, regardless of race and culture don't want it. People will take whatever is given to them, it's human nature. That's why we're in the mess we're in. Pretending that foreigners are more inclined to statism than all the endemic parasites is scapegoating and avoiding the real problem...US.

I'm not convinced that government predates individual freedom. The species has lived through a lot of shit.

 

[AuH20]

The concept of "individual" freedom is only several hundred years old. Only a small percentage of people understand it. Even people on this forum don't understand it. The vast majority of people, regardless of race and culture don't want it. People will take whatever is given to them, it's human nature. That's why we're in the mess we're in. Pretending that foreigners are more inclined to statism than all the endemic parasites is scapegoating and avoiding the real problem...US.

Actually, demographic polling proves that to be true sadly. 73% of all Asian-Americans voted for uber globalist stooge Barack Obama and his sled of debt-backed goodies. That's a shocking number, even if Mitt Romney was a bad candidate.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2012_12/why_do_asian_americans_vote_so041529.php

And among Hispanic-Americans approximately 61% support the corporate giveaway that was known as Obamacare. In terms of this type of wide philosophical chasm, there is no way you can bridge it.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox...fordable_care_act_latinos_love_obamacare.html

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Yes really.
This land would be a lot freer if the Europeans has been kept out.
Europeans are the problem,, the place is infested with them.



Jeeze,, these threads really do highlight those who still do not have a clue.


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Yep. The color of a person's skin makes no difference. We are all humans.

What makes a difference is assimilation or not. Does a person come here with a totally different mindset, with an agenda to change our system and society, or do they come to become an American (as defined by the Constitution, and the foundation of liberty and limited government). Many people have (and still do) immigrate here with a desire to assimilate. Others do not.

One part of a recipe for disaster is when communities become separate and isolated. For instance in Europe, there are entire Muslim neighborhoods and towns. This leads directly to non-assimilation, simply by the fact there is an inertia, and a critical mass of their previous culture which naturally prevents assimilation. At that point, it is nothing more than another nation carving out a section of a different nation. It is conquest, and the people in those communities think of it in those terms. Assimilation is not only prevented, it is actively opposed.

People tend to think that conquest comes from war. This is wrong. Conquest comes from migration with no assimilation. War may or may not lead to that, but war is by no means necessary for conquest.

 

[otherone]

I'm not convinced that government predates individual freedom. The species has lived through a lot of shit.

A tribe never existed that valued the Rights of the individual over the needs of the tribe.

 

[erowe1]

Counries with lots of white people:
have high taxes
have high government spending
are heavily regulated
try to build empires
spend a lot on welfare, art, education, research, and other statist gobbledygook
it's hard to get guns or drugs

Countries with lots of brown people:
have lower taxes
have less government spending
are less regulated
don't build empires
spend less on welfare, art, education, research, and other statist gobbledygook
it's easy to get guns and drugs