Whitehouse suspends CNN reporter press pass

[jmdrake]

Trolling. Step 2 is explaining how, as a means of transmitting messages, that microphone should be under the control of the post office as per the constitution. It's actually a less stupid argument than claiming that he assaulted her by karate chopping her arm, which is really saying something.

FTR only Dannno used the "karate chop" argument. You don't have to cause harm or intend to cause harm to someone to be guilty of the definition of assault. Corey Lewindowsky is a prime example of someone charged with assault without causing or intending to cause harm.



Also what does the post office have to do with this? This is a White House microphone, not a post office microphone. Microphones didn't exist at the time the constitution was written, but the executive branch does have delegated authority under the constitution to purchase and control equipment necessary for its function, be that a White House horse and carriage, a White House airplane (Air Force One) or a White House Microphone.

 

[jmdrake]

I have no issue with him losing his WH press pass. His turn was up. However I see him more as a jackass than a criminal.

Maybe our assault laws should change to not cover what they actually cover. No argument from me on that. But CNN needs to be consistent then.

 

[TheCount]

FTR only Dannno used the "karate chop" argument.

Precisely.

Also what does the post office have to do with this? This is a White House microphone, not a post office microphone. Microphones didn't exist at the time the constitution was written, but the executive branch does have delegated authority under the constitution to purchase and control equipment necessary for its function, be that a White House horse and carriage, a White House airplane (Air Force One) or a White House Microphone.

It's a running joke regarding Swordsmyth's... "creative" interpretations of the constitution.

The transfer of information is the job of the post office.

I would consider supporting a "Free speech" web-hosting/search engine/file hosting service as a part of the post office, they would be the ones to run a "net neutrality" ISP as well.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Precisely.




It's a running joke regarding Swordsmyth's... "creative" interpretations of the constitution.

There is nothing creative about it, the Post Office would be doing its job with modern equipment.

 

[dannno]

Actually, I described it as a "light karate chop" because that is the motion his arm took when he struck her arm with his hand.

The reason is because a karate chop is a universally recognized arm motion, whereas references to obscure forms are martial arts and lesser known maneuvers doesn't make any sense to mention.

There are two reasons for doing this.

First, it is an accurate depiction of the arm motion and strike.

Second, seeing leftists defend Acosta's actions by arguing that it wasn't a "karate chop" is entertaining because he did actually lightly karate chop her arm. Typically a karate chop is a full force strike, and this was not a full force strike. That is their argument, that it wasn't a full force strike, and that is some funny shit.

 

[Jamesiv1]

Maybe our assault laws should change to not cover what they actually cover. No argument from me on that. But CNN needs to be consistent then.

Haven't seen Michelle Fields on TV or YouTube in quite a long time.... What has become of her?

 

[Madison320]

Breaking! CNN and Jim Acosta SUING Trump
https://therightscoop.com/breaking-cnn-and-jim-acosta-suing-trump/

To me the only interesting part of this fiasco is the question of free speech. My initial reaction is that Trump could hand pick his own team of reporters and it wouldn't be a violation of the 1st amendment.

 

[Swordsmyth]

To me the only interesting part of this fiasco is the question of free speech. My initial reaction is that Trump could hand pick his own team of reporters and it wouldn't be a violation of the 1st amendment.

He could never hold another press conference if he wanted.

 

[donnay]

 

[Madison320]

He could never hold another press conference if he wanted.

I agree. The government can't prevent people from speaking but they don't have to let people into the WH.


That being said I'll bet CNN tries to claim 1st amendment violation.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Kicking & Screaming: Journo Dragged From Press Area Near Air Force One

By CHRISTINA HOAG
Published Jul 16, 2009
AP

Secret Service personnel remove Brenda Lee from near Air Force One after Lee attempted to give President Obama a letter.

A reporter for a small newspaper was forcibly removed from a press area near Air Force One shortly before President Barack Obama arrived at Los Angeles International Airport to depart California early Thursday.

Airport security officers carried the woman away by the feet and arms as she protested her removal.
She later identified herself as Brenda Lee, a writer for the Georgia Informer in Macon and said she has White House press credentials. The newspaper's Web site says it is a monthly publication, and a Brenda Lee column is posted on it.

Calls to the newspaper and the White House press office were not immediately returned.

Lee said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press that she wanted to hand Obama a letter urging him "to take a stand for traditional marriage."
She said she asked a Secret Service agent to give the president her letter, but he refused and referred her to a White House staffer. Lee said she refused to give the staffer the letter.
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/...g-and-Screaming-From-Near-Air-Force-One-.html



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[Zippyjuan]

It is the best and closest description to what happened. It was a strike with an open palm in the same motion as a karate chop with the same contact point. I called it a light karate chop.

It is not enough to call it an assault, but it's enough to pull his creds, that is not how those things are supposed to work.

The right is not obsessing, the left is obsessing over it. The right is simply defending their position.

There is no strike, no karate chop- just a brushing aside. Can't believe people still worked up over this.

Open palm strike:

 

[acptulsa]

Breaking! CNN and Jim Acosta SUING Trump
https://therightscoop.com/breaking-cnn-and-jim-acosta-suing-trump/

If he does in court what he did in that Presser--especially since he's going to get dismissed as frivolous--he'll wind up in contempt of court.

 

[dannno]

There is no strike, no karate chop- just a brushing aside. Can't believe people still worked up over this.

Open palm strike:

It's pretty clear in the video with the close-up that the media claims was "doctored" (it was not), that he did a light karate chop on her arm.

Everybody knows what a karate chop is, your obfuscation isn't going to change anybody's mind.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I agree. The government can't prevent people from speaking but they don't have to let people into the WH.


That being said I'll bet CNN tries to claim 1st amendment violation.

The "Press" as it self identifies has always interpreted "freedom of the press" as a license for them to do anything they wanted.

 

[Zippyjuan]

It's pretty clear in the video with the close-up that the media claims was "doctored" (it was not), that he did a light karate chop on her arm.

Everybody knows what a karate chop is, your obfuscation isn't going to change anybody's mind.

Yes, they do. That was not one.

 

[Jamesiv1]

It was in-between a brush-aside and a light karate chop.

Looked to me like their arms were already in contact, and Acosta forcefully pushed down with his arm on top of hers.

Instead of taking his credential they should have just put him in the back of the room. Then when he yells questions over others as he surely would do, they kick him out of the room.

Except that yeah, I think Trump likes having CNN as a foil.

 

[UWDude]

Except that yeah, I think Trump likes having CNN as a foil.

Just like we all love having ZippyJuan here as a foil.
Imagine the forums without him.

BORING.

 

[Origanalist]

 

[kahless]

Just like we all love having ZippyJuan here as a foil.
Imagine the forums without him.

BORING.

I disagree with Zippy but at least it appears he does not pretend to be something he is not and is consistent in his defense of propaganda masquerading as news. Basically we have someone that consistently represents the fake media's point of view with the forum exposing and hashing out the lies throughout the thread. It would be an echo chamber otherwise.

That is opposed to another 2008 member that has a long history continually posting how libertarian he is while spamming Progressive talking points and then being a dick about it by accusing everyone else of being less so to cover his tracks.